Reusing/Recovering value of partial used ticket (eg. cancelled return) [Consolidated]
#47
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Using credit from cancelled return segment of RT ticket
Due to last minute work changes, my wife had to cancel the return segment of our R/T HKG-SFO-HKG ticket. (May not have been the best choice, but not a lot of options given she went on to VCE, AUH and then back to HKG).
The agent told me that the credit can really only be used for a SFO-HKG ticket having already partially used the ticket, as a change in destination would open up the ticket to be "one-way", making the new ticket cost extremely expensive.
Is this the only way this credit can be used? Is there no other way to free up the credit? I need to book her a roundtrip SFO-MFR ticket, but it appears this credit cannot be efficiently used, even with work covering the change fee.
We plan to travel back for the holidays, but want to book our tickets together while I burn expiring GPUs. May not be possible on one PNR if I need to find a miles flight to SFO in order to use the return credit.
Any help appreciated!! (Ps...I searched the forum but to no luck)
The agent told me that the credit can really only be used for a SFO-HKG ticket having already partially used the ticket, as a change in destination would open up the ticket to be "one-way", making the new ticket cost extremely expensive.
Is this the only way this credit can be used? Is there no other way to free up the credit? I need to book her a roundtrip SFO-MFR ticket, but it appears this credit cannot be efficiently used, even with work covering the change fee.
We plan to travel back for the holidays, but want to book our tickets together while I burn expiring GPUs. May not be possible on one PNR if I need to find a miles flight to SFO in order to use the return credit.
Any help appreciated!! (Ps...I searched the forum but to no luck)
#48
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The agent is not correct. Once canceled, the ticket has a specific residual value, which applies no matter what you use that value for: one-way, RT, and regardless of destination. The original route, fare class, etc, of a canceled ticket are meaningless; all that matters is the residual value. When you attempt to change a partially used ticket, the agent will have to ask the rate desk to determine the residual value, and will put you on hold while they do this.
#49
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I suspect OP is not familiar with fare rules and may have been confused. UA agent may have said that SFO-HKG segment can be used at a later date with only change fee, or no change fee, while changing destination requires refare.
#50
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AFAIK, this is not correct, and even if the residual value is used for an SFO-HKG segment later on, it will be refared.
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It would not be repriced in the event of a simple date change for the the SFO-HKG segment. Changes to the return after flying the outbound typically do not trigger a reprice so long as they are within the routing rules.
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Relative to what you are trying to do, the agent is more or less correct.
Any change to the ticket will "reprice" it in a certain sense (although there are exceptions for small changes). If you want to throw away the second segment and use the coupon to a wholly new itinerary, it will re-price the HKG-SFO as a one-way which is likely to consume most of the residual value of the ticket.
The key feature is that you need to use the credit on a segment which makes a valid round trip combination with HKG-SFO. This is mostly any US-Asia segment, although the original fare's combinability requirements will apply. You will not be able to use the credit for domestic travel.
Any change to the ticket will "reprice" it in a certain sense (although there are exceptions for small changes). If you want to throw away the second segment and use the coupon to a wholly new itinerary, it will re-price the HKG-SFO as a one-way which is likely to consume most of the residual value of the ticket.
The key feature is that you need to use the credit on a segment which makes a valid round trip combination with HKG-SFO. This is mostly any US-Asia segment, although the original fare's combinability requirements will apply. You will not be able to use the credit for domestic travel.
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So I would ask the agent and see if I can apply the credit to SFO-MFR RT ticket.
#56
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Appreciate the explanations.
As was mentioned above, the agent did say that if I used the credit to book R/T SFO-MFR, the ticket would be re-priced as a "one-way" HKG-SFO-MFR-SFO, resulting in an additional ~$1000. I can see how this impacts international tickets much more heavily than domestic itins.
Given the R/T fare was >$600US, I am not extremely concerned, but would prefer to not give away the money, especially since the company will cover the change fee.
Using the return credit as an open jaw as findark mentioned would probably be the best option to use the credit within 12 month period.
As was mentioned above, the agent did say that if I used the credit to book R/T SFO-MFR, the ticket would be re-priced as a "one-way" HKG-SFO-MFR-SFO, resulting in an additional ~$1000. I can see how this impacts international tickets much more heavily than domestic itins.
Given the R/T fare was >$600US, I am not extremely concerned, but would prefer to not give away the money, especially since the company will cover the change fee.
Using the return credit as an open jaw as findark mentioned would probably be the best option to use the credit within 12 month period.
#57
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This is great information. Thanks for correcting my assertion.
#58
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If the for the P fare quoted the return flight was not canceled but changed to a future date, what would be the options?
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It depends on the original fare rules. Generally it would need to be a return that would have been valid for the original ticket. In the case of a TPAC RT, it likely would need to be a TPAC return. Of course there would still be a change fee.
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Missed me EWR-LAX flight due to an incompetent Uber driver last night. My ticket was only $174, so that was money/PQD down the drain as it was less than the $200 change fee. I think I'm more upset that I had booked with extremely rare IN AND R availability for myself and my wife - totally went to waste.