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Old Nov 20, 2016, 11:21 am
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United to retire 747 by end of 2017

Current scheduled 747 routes

Currently 14 left, retirement plan as follows(updated Aug 2017):

N127UA Owned - Exit 15-Aug-17 Age 18.0
N181UA Lease -01-Nov-17 -Exit 15-Oct-17 Lease return Age 26.0
N117UA Owned - Exit 30-Oct-17 Age 18.8
N174UA Lease- 09-Dec-17 Exit 30-Oct-17 Lease return Age 27.8
N105UA Lease- 09-Dec-17 Exit 01-Nov-17 Lease return Age 23.4
N107UA Lease- 01-Jun-18 Exit 01-Nov-17 Lease return Age 19.2
N175UA Owned - Exit 01-Nov-17 Age 27.2
N116UA Owned - Exit 10-Nov-17 Age 18.9
N118UA Owned - Exit 10-Nov-17 Age 18.7
N128UA Owned - Exit 10-Nov-17 Age 17.5
N119UA Owned - Exit 20-Nov-17 Age 18.7
N121UA Owned - Exit 20-Nov-17 Age 18.6
N178UA Lease - 01-May-18 Exit 20-Nov-17 Lease return Age 27.1
N180UA Owned - 20-Nov-17 Age 26.3

See details at United Fleet Site.
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UA to pilots: We're considering retiring all 747s by end of 2018 (Phaseout EOY 2017).

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Old Mar 16, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by eng3
HA, I've been reading your mind. I've been trying google as well but it still wont give me SFO unless I force the intl flights to Y which ups the price to >$5K.
Who knew it would be so hard to get my last 747 flight from the east coast. Unfortunately I currently don't have any TPAC plans
Try multi-city with Expedia. It's better than mst at combining things in unusual ways to get a lower fare. If the TATL portion from SFO doesn't allow end-on-end or the EWR-SFO portion has some similar restriction you may need to alter your intended routing to accomplish this inexpensively.
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Old Mar 16, 2017, 1:45 pm
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I tried expedia too (and a few others) and run into the same result. I'll have to take a closer look at the fare rules. However I'm somewhat limited since part of my routing is fixed since I want to fly on the 747. I suppose worst case, I could book the TCON flights on a separate PNR and leave my self a very long layover in case of issues and hope for CPUs (or burn some RPUs)
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 5:19 am
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Just had my final TPAC ride on upper deck of the 747. I had booked a return flight, also, but watched the Business seats disappear completely. Finally, switched to a 777 so I wouldn't have to sit in Economy.

The hotel emailed me in advance to ask if I was celebrating anything special. "A final ride on United's 747," I replied. The hotel surprised me with a die cast model of the plane.
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by bamboola
Just had my final TPAC ride on upper deck of the 747. I had booked a return flight, also, but watched the Business seats disappear completely. Finally, switched to a 777 so I wouldn't have to sit in Economy.

The hotel emailed me in advance to ask if I was celebrating anything special. "A final ride on United's 747," I replied. The hotel surprised me with a die cast model of the plane.
Wow...which hotel was this? Great customer relations!
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by 747FC
Wow...which hotel was this? Great customer relations!
Conrad Hong Kong.

United told me that the 747s have been packed lately because so many of us want to fly it "one more time."
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by bamboola
Conrad Hong Kong.
Conrad Asia goes the extra mile.

We stayed at the Conrad Tokyo in March 2011 and left the rubber duckies because we were to return in a few weeks and figured we could pick them up as we left. Well, the Tohoku Tsunami took place and we evacuated due to the radiation and continuing aftershocks. After waiting (a hopefully appropriate) few months, I contacted the concierges we met there and asked if they could ship a duckie to us. A week or so later, it arrived to Mrs747FC's delight. Just remarkable customer service!
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 5:58 pm
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I am finding myself more and more torn with United's 747's....

I moved overseas to Korea 3 years ago and the ICN-SFO-ICN route is what I build my 1K on every year. I have such a love-hate relationship because since the plane is old it's reliability isn't that great meaning lots of delays, and also the cabin pressure and air quality isn't the best so I feel crappy every time I get off. But there is something truly special about all 4 engines spooling up on takeoff while you're sitting on the upper deck. UD is so awesome because it's so private and frankly the service is better up there.

While I'm really excited for the 77W and new Polaris seats, and I'm really hopeful it ends up on the ICN route... A small part of me will be sad it's not on the 747.

Side note, it seems fare price for the 747 has been going up for P fares. I did a round trip last week and I flew via Osaka (777) on the way out and via LAX-NRT on the way back (787) because it saved me $1,800 vs flying direct to SFO on the 747.
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 6:49 pm
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Wow! What a coincidence. We checked into the Conrad Tokyo a few hours before the earthquake hit. The staff took every good care of us until we were able to fly home two days later. We returned eight months later to continue our trip, and the usually reserved Japanese staff welcomed us back with hugs.

Originally Posted by 747FC
Conrad Asia goes the extra mile.

We stayed at the Conrad Tokyo in March 2011 and left the rubber duckies because we were to return in a few weeks and figured we could pick them up as we left. Well, the Tohoku Tsunami took place and we evacuated due to the radiation and continuing aftershocks. After waiting (a hopefully appropriate) few months, I contacted the concierges we met there and asked if they could ship a duckie to us. A week or so later, it arrived to Mrs747FC's delight. Just remarkable customer service!
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Old Mar 19, 2017, 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by bamboola
Wow! What a coincidence. We checked into the Conrad Tokyo a few hours before the earthquake hit. The staff took every good care of us until we were able to fly home two days later. We returned eight months later to continue our trip, and the usually reserved Japanese staff welcomed us back with hugs.
A coincidence indeed! We probably passed you by in the lobby, as we took a shinkansen that day to stay in an onsen in Atami.

To keep this on-topic, we are eagerly awaiting our next 747 F trips in August!
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by eng3
I tried expedia too (and a few others) and run into the same result. I'll have to take a closer look at the fare rules. However I'm somewhat limited since part of my routing is fixed since I want to fly on the 747. I suppose worst case, I could book the TCON flights on a separate PNR and leave my self a very long layover in case of issues and hope for CPUs (or burn some RPUs)
Just to report back, I've given up. I will try calling the 1K line again to see if they can find me a better fair, otherwise, I will just book EWR-SFO separately from SFO-FRA/LHR and use 2 RPUs and 2 GPUs. It still costs more than direct but I'm willing to suffer more to get my last ride on a 747. Ironically, I think it will be harder to clear on the domestic PS legs than the intl. At least I should be able to still access all the lounges. Hopefully the Polaris lounge is up and running in SFO by mid-Aug, a shower would be really nice.
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 1:01 pm
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When they retired the 737 from sUA, there was a hub tour before the retirement. Are they going to do that for the 747?

It would be a circus of people (me included) trying for one last ride.

Barratt
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by bmoy210
When they retired the 737 from sUA, there was a hub tour before the retirement. Are they going to do that for the 747?

It would be a circus of people (me included) trying for one last ride.

Barratt
Do you mean the 727? I think the 737 is alive and well!
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bmoy210
When they retired the 737 from sUA, there was a hub tour before the retirement. Are they going to do that for the 747?

It would be a circus of people (me included) trying for one last ride.

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Originally Posted by BBSHOPSINGER
Do you mean the 727? I think the 737 is alive and well!
sUA 737 is long gone. sCO 737s are still kicking around, much to my everlasting annoyance

(Width issues make me prefer the 320 fleet)
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Old Mar 21, 2017, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by BBSHOPSINGER
Do you mean the 727? I think the 737 is alive and well!
No, he did mean 737.

See: 737 shortest fleet retirement ever?
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Old Mar 26, 2017, 10:44 am
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Last week I took my final UA 747 flight. UD on 857 SFO-PVG 3/20/2017.

I'm bummed to see them go. In my experience, UD on 747 is comparable to First on the 747 or 777 and much better than BF on any other UA plane.
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