View Poll Results: Is the change to early boarding for families w/children 2 or under a good move by UA?
Like the change and it will improve boarding time
72
9.68%
Like the change but it will not improve boarding time
67
9.01%
Dislike the change but it will improve boarding time
16
2.15%
Dislike the change and it will not improve boarding time
454
61.02%
Could support a different change and it will improve boarding time
23
3.09%
Could support a different change but it will not improve boarding time
22
2.96%
Neutral but it will improve boarding times
15
2.02%
Neutral but it will not improve boarding times
75
10.08%
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Reintroducing Early Boarding for Families with Children
#76
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I think that there is an internal inconsistency in this statement. Three families that "need extra time" will clog things up in the jetway right off the bat.
#77
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: EWR
Programs: United
Posts: 89
That's a valid point. I fly this route often and you speak the truth.
#78
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SFO South Bay
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 3,052
Do what SouthWest does. Allow group 1 to board, then families after that. That works quite well in my experience.
#79
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: SEA/YYZ
Posts: 1,561
This is a customer friendly move to the general population, so I'm not entirely sure what the uproar here is. Plenty of airlines do this and it's not the end of the world. Traveling is exponentially harder for parents with little ones.
UAInsider is not saying that all those groups board before GS, but rather they all board together...at the same time...as pre-boards. At least that's my interpretation. Maybe they could board after premium cabins and elites, but we've seen how those lines get backed up in the jetway too.
UAInsider is not saying that all those groups board before GS, but rather they all board together...at the same time...as pre-boards. At least that's my interpretation. Maybe they could board after premium cabins and elites, but we've seen how those lines get backed up in the jetway too.
#80
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
One reason small children should board early is that car seats must be in a window seat, or in a middle section that does not block access to an aisle.
#81
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 57,608
Here's the problem: they're going to clog up the jetway at some point in the boarding process. While I appreciate the ability to board early as an elite, as a human I have a hard time with the concept of pushing the slow boarders behind "my" zone so that I'm not impacted.
I have a hard time with the concept of an airline offering me an enticement to fly their airline - in this case, early boarding so that I am assured overhead space for my carry on luggage - with pushing me back in the process so that when I get to my seat, there is no overhead stowage available.
#82
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posts: 784
I can't agree with you more. There are some other routes that also suffer from the same... and the people with children up to age 8 will take advantage of it in addition their other family members.
#83
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 553
The sense I get from some comments is there is concern about abuse of these policies and inconsistent enforcement. I've seen large groups pre-board with disabled passengers or with families on OAL. I fully understand one or even two adults (certainly with small children traveling with two caretakers) boarding with a disabled passenger or small child, but an entire family/party of 4, 6, or more does not need to board with that disabled passenger or small child. I can understand families not wanting to split up, but unless they're young children, they can probably handle getting on the plane separately from everyone else.
That said, I think it's beyond clear UA needs to revisit the boarding process more broadly, especially the boarding area layout with all the lines. This changes makes the current design and process even more burdensome; GS and now families will have to fight the crowd or squeeze out some space to pre-board.
I can see allowing group X to board and then allowing pre-boarding like Southwest. I would have no issue with that so long as UA changes their policy, which lumps credit card holders with gold/silver (I don't think people who pay $95 a year for a credit card should get the same boarding level as people who meet the qualification criteria for silver and gold, especially given the PQD requirement).
That said, I think it's beyond clear UA needs to revisit the boarding process more broadly, especially the boarding area layout with all the lines. This changes makes the current design and process even more burdensome; GS and now families will have to fight the crowd or squeeze out some space to pre-board.
I can see allowing group X to board and then allowing pre-boarding like Southwest. I would have no issue with that so long as UA changes their policy, which lumps credit card holders with gold/silver (I don't think people who pay $95 a year for a credit card should get the same boarding level as people who meet the qualification criteria for silver and gold, especially given the PQD requirement).
#84
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
If they are going to do this, then they should do it well in advance of when general boarding begins - so it doesn't clog up the jetway or the aisle.
I have a hard time with the concept of an airline offering me an enticement to fly their airline - in this case, early boarding so that I am assured overhead space for my carry on luggage - with pushing me back in the process so that when I get to my seat, there is no overhead stowage available.
I have a hard time with the concept of an airline offering me an enticement to fly their airline - in this case, early boarding so that I am assured overhead space for my carry on luggage - with pushing me back in the process so that when I get to my seat, there is no overhead stowage available.
#85
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Certainly not "all" the overhead space (unless it is one of the flights some above referenced to). But very likely all the overhead space over a row or 2 and if that happens to be your row it is over, then yes, The space is gone over your seat. I think this is what they were referring to.
#86
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA GS 1MM, CM PP
Posts: 689
Some clarity would help.
#87
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Denver, CO USA
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Posts: 1,086
I would want infants riding in the plane, seated in the last five rows. So board them first. However, since they now ride in first class as well as everywhere else, exempting exit rows; I do not object to when they board, or where they sit. Hopefully, their parents are schooled in caring for them. For me, I will leave the plane before departure, if the environment around my seat is not hospitable.
#88
Join Date: Feb 2008
Programs: UA Silver, HH Gold
Posts: 43
I am agnostic on the when (move to after GS/1K/F), but this actually is helpful (and I say this as someone no longer with small children, so I will be affected the same as everyone else).
Never had an issue with this on other airlines who, shockingly, largely have better boarding processes then UA already.
#89
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,361
Certainly not "all" the overhead space (unless it is one of the flights some above referenced to). But very likely all the overhead space over a row or 2 and if that happens to be your row it is over, then yes, The space is gone over your seat. I think this is what they were referring to.
If you're traveling with a small child and a car seat and are gate checking a stroller, you don't have the ability to carry anything more than 1 small bag per person, let alone enough suitcases to fill an overhead bin or 2.
#90
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ASE
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THIS IS A HORRIBLE MOVE, although consistent with UA valuing kettles who pay TOD's over elites. So glad I am an AA flyer.