Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jun 20, 2017, 8:26 pm
#587
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 1,084
What specifically would you be interested from an infinite bump? (Other than Visa discount air since they've kept they for Ritz only)
Jun 20, 2017, 10:47 pm
#588
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: UA/CO, SPG, Hyatt
Posts: 162
It would never have lasted. I'm betting that their bean counters crunched the numbers and found that those paying less than the current AF as a whole generate X profit and they are willing to take Y risk for the Z cancellations. You can expect this for any award/reward system - build it up and slowly break it down. Also, for added bonus it slims down the ranks of this legacy card.
Jun 23, 2017, 3:20 pm
#589
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: CLE
Programs: CO One Pass, Lifetime PC, 1/5 to 1M
Posts: 130
I wrote a letter to Chase about the increase from $100 for the Pres+ Card for lifetime Club members. A rep called me yesterday. After a (sometimes heated) discussion where I explained I am being asked to pay twice for the same service, I was told it was a Chase-wide decision and could not be overturned. I asked how many others were have sent complaints and was told the were "some"--the agent refused to say if it were 5 or 500, even when I asked for a ballpark figure.
Well.....today I got a message from the same rep who told me that they were going to honor the $100 rate and I would be getting a letter in the mail saying that it will continue to be the same.
Well.....today I got a message from the same rep who told me that they were going to honor the $100 rate and I would be getting a letter in the mail saying that it will continue to be the same.
Last edited by Cupertino; Jun 23, 2017 at 3:46 pm Reason: Grammar
Jun 23, 2017, 5:53 pm
#590
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,432
W! Is that for all of us in the same situation? I spoke to a couple of reps and heard nothing back. I guess it's time for a letter.
Jun 23, 2017, 8:21 pm
#591
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Tx
Programs: AA, UA, WN
Posts: 812
Been following this thread and i hadn't received a fee change notice....got me thinking if chase was only sending the increase to folks who didn't hit certain spend per year as way to weed out folks. I am not a big spender but put a good amount of usage on the card.
Also good to hear if true on the retraction.
Also good to hear if true on the retraction.
Jun 27, 2017, 11:43 am
#593
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: UA Platinum Lifetime Club Marriott Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 3
Just talked to Chase for the third time. Good news! It appears they have realized that the grandfathered $100 lifetimers are some of UA's best customers and they have decided to continue the $100 annual fee. The representative said I'd be getting a new letter and she noted the conversation in my file.
Jun 27, 2017, 11:44 am
#594
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: UA GS 2.6MM & Lifetime UC, Qantas Platinum, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, HawaiianMiles
Posts: 8,700
Just talked to Chase for the third time. Good news! It appears they have realized that the grandfathered $100 lifetimers are some of UA's best customers and they have decided to continue the $100 annual fee. The representative said I'd be getting a new letter and she noted the conversation in my file.
Jun 27, 2017, 8:07 pm
#595
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: IAH
Programs: Marriott Plat, Hyatt Globalist, DL Plat, UA Silver
Posts: 4,043
So I've been speculating this whole time.
I'm the late batch of card holders that are paying $395 a year. I never got any letter regarding even the increase so it's a relief it didn't go through
I'm the late batch of card holders that are paying $395 a year. I never got any letter regarding even the increase so it's a relief it didn't go through
Jun 27, 2017, 9:30 pm
#596
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,432
ur letter will come...
Jun 27, 2017, 11:20 pm
#598
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SEA or BGR, Lower Earth Orbit
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 17,217
So, will I have liking them to change the card to a Sapphire or even an explorer card? The business was paying the fee, but $450 is too steep to ask them to pay.
Jun 28, 2017, 9:03 am
#599
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
Just talked to Chase for the third time. Good news! It appears they have realized that the grandfathered $100 lifetimers are some of UA's best customers and they have decided to continue the $100 annual fee. The representative said I'd be getting a new letter and she noted the conversation in my file.
