Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
Jan 1, 2014, 12:51 pm
#1
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PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, .... (impact of 2019 & 2020 MP changes)
I just posted 75,000 flex PQM, my account already shows Platinum. However, I don't see 2 RPUs I should have gotten.
Jan 1, 2014, 12:54 pm
#2
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Jan 4, 2014, 4:26 pm
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Please pardon a stupid question. I have silver statuts, and used my PP card to pay fees for reward travel to the Cook Islands (via Air New Zealand). When clicked on the link that displays baggage fees for that flight, it shows 2 free bags on the way out (with one of them saying $100 and being crossed out), and only 1 free bag on the return. This was booked as a round-trip ticket.
Am I correct in assuming I will only get one free bag each way, given this is reward travel? Or is paying the fee on PP enough that I should get 2 bags each way?
Am I correct in assuming I will only get one free bag each way, given this is reward travel? Or is paying the fee on PP enough that I should get 2 bags each way?
Jan 4, 2014, 4:50 pm
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Please pardon a stupid question. I have silver statuts, and used my PP card to pay fees for reward travel to the Cook Islands (via Air New Zealand). When clicked on the link that displays baggage fees for that flight, it shows 2 free bags on the way out (with one of them saying $100 and being crossed out), and only 1 free bag on the return. This was booked as a round-trip ticket.
Am I correct in assuming I will only get one free bag each way, given this is reward travel? Or is paying the fee on PP enough that I should get 2 bags each way?
Am I correct in assuming I will only get one free bag each way, given this is reward travel? Or is paying the fee on PP enough that I should get 2 bags each way?
Jan 4, 2014, 5:02 pm
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What is the actual operating airline each way. I would assume from what you posted is UA starting out on the way to Cook islands so your PP card gets you 2 free bags. I would assume is a partner that is not *A leaving cook Islands so you would be subject to baggage fees for that airline.
Jan 4, 2014, 5:05 pm
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Doesn't *A give 1 free bag to *Silver? That would account for the 1 free bag on the inbound and the PP would give the 2 free bags on the outbound if on UA. Only scenario that makes sense to me, unless *Silver doesn't give a free bag and NZ has no fee for first bag.
Jan 4, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Possibly. Like I said, dunno. I've never been silver on a United partner.
Jan 4, 2014, 8:14 pm
#8
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What is the actual operating airline each way. I would assume from what you posted is UA starting out on the way to Cook islands so your PP card gets you 2 free bags. I would assume is a partner that is not *A leaving cook Islands so you would be subject to baggage fees for that airline.
Last edited by pinks; Jan 4, 2014 at 8:34 pm
Jan 4, 2014, 11:07 pm
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Posts: 152
Presidential Plus Card and FPQMs
Hi all,
Been a PP card member for a while now and overall have been happy with it. With the devaluation of being only able to use FPQMs only to premier, and now no longer qualifying for Global Premier Upgrades, the perks for the card has deteriorated significantly.
I have way too many FPQMs to burn, and nothing to use them for. Is there any other use for them, perhaps a family member, etc? I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card?
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there. At the end of the day, the overall decent availability of reward tickets for me in and out of Newark has me sticking with United, but I'm more and more open to driving to JFK or PHL. For the most part, I travel to NRT, PVG, and HKG internationally, and LAX, LAS domestically.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Been a PP card member for a while now and overall have been happy with it. With the devaluation of being only able to use FPQMs only to premier, and now no longer qualifying for Global Premier Upgrades, the perks for the card has deteriorated significantly.
I have way too many FPQMs to burn, and nothing to use them for. Is there any other use for them, perhaps a family member, etc? I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card?
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there. At the end of the day, the overall decent availability of reward tickets for me in and out of Newark has me sticking with United, but I'm more and more open to driving to JFK or PHL. For the most part, I travel to NRT, PVG, and HKG internationally, and LAX, LAS domestically.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Jan 4, 2014, 11:16 pm
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....I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card?
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there.
....
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there.
....
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Jan 5, 2014, 4:15 am
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Posts: 9,169
I have way too many FPQMs to burn, and nothing to use them for. Is there any other use for them, perhaps a family member, etc? I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Some cardholders found they accumulated flexible miles faster than they could use them. Sometimes much faster. For a while, the use of those miles counted toward lifetime miles, so many people who had no other use for them used up flexible miles that way. (That option is no longer possible.) Chase and the airline also recognized the limited appeal of flexible miles to some holders of the Presidential Plus card. Therefore, they created an alternative club card that did not earn flexible miles, but instead earned 1.5 bonus miles per dollar spent.
You may want to call Chase and switch to that alternative. However, keep in mind also that if you relinquish the Presidential Plus card you will give up its PQD waiver.
Jan 5, 2014, 6:09 am
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Jan 5, 2014, 7:37 am
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Hi all,
Been a PP card member for a while now and overall have been happy with it. With the devaluation of being only able to use FPQMs only to premier, and now no longer qualifying for Global Premier Upgrades, the perks for the card has deteriorated significantly.
I have way too many FPQMs to burn, and nothing to use them for. Is there any other use for them, perhaps a family member, etc? I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card?
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there. At the end of the day, the overall decent availability of reward tickets for me in and out of Newark has me sticking with United, but I'm more and more open to driving to JFK or PHL. For the most part, I travel to NRT, PVG, and HKG internationally, and LAX, LAS domestically.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Been a PP card member for a while now and overall have been happy with it. With the devaluation of being only able to use FPQMs only to premier, and now no longer qualifying for Global Premier Upgrades, the perks for the card has deteriorated significantly.
I have way too many FPQMs to burn, and nothing to use them for. Is there any other use for them, perhaps a family member, etc? I'm obviously still earning miles for my business purchases, but I guess I'm curious whether anybody in similar shoes as me has jumped ship to another credit card?
I guess I'm just trying to make the best of what's out there. At the end of the day, the overall decent availability of reward tickets for me in and out of Newark has me sticking with United, but I'm more and more open to driving to JFK or PHL. For the most part, I travel to NRT, PVG, and HKG internationally, and LAX, LAS domestically.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
The PDQ waiver will also be worth something to me as I doubt that I will be 1K again.