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Old Jan 17, 2017, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by Jeffw5555
This is the first time I have seen this thread. I cannot believe people complain about not getting a PDB. You just got on the plane, you couldn't take 30 seconds to pickup a drink before getting on the plane? This falls into the same class as people that get on the plane, then immediately go into the lavatory....

I pay extra (sometimes a great deal extra) OF MY OWN MONEY to receive First Class service as it's described and promised in United's marketing literature (that includes a PDB). I cannot believe that you think it is unreasonable for me to be upset that when I don't receive it. If you ordered a luxury car, and they delivered it without wheels or a windshield, would you just suck it up and take it?

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Old Jan 17, 2017, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by Plane-is-home
Worst case they take your tip and still hide behind people magazine.
I tip $20 on any given flight. Some FAs take the money, some refuse as claim against "policy". Depends on the person. It does improve their mood and responsiveness for drink service
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Old Jan 17, 2017, 11:53 am
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No, I don't drink alcohol. Even if I did, I wouldn't worry about needing a drink prior to takeoff .
If it were that important to me, I would ask for the drink.

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Old Jan 17, 2017, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Jeffw5555
This is the first time I have seen this thread. I cannot believe people complain about not getting a PDB. You just got on the plane, you couldn't take 30 seconds to pickup a drink before getting on the plane? This falls into the same class as people that get on the plane, then immediately go into the lavatory....
It is perfectly reasonable to expect to receive the services that are advertised. I've never understood why some people get so upset when people point out that they haven't received the services that they paid for.

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Old Jan 17, 2017, 3:25 pm
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Old Jan 19, 2017, 5:33 pm
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No PDB today on a EMB-170, SLC-DEN. FA's seemed to have plenty of time to chat with each other though. Did take orders for drinks during the flight, which we were at least 30 minutes in the air before she finally served us. Slim pickings for snacks, the couple bags of potato chips were gone by the time she got to row 2.
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Old Feb 3, 2017, 11:47 am
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5443 SAN LAX, no PDB offered and boarding took 30 min. FA spent entire boarding chatting/flirting with pilots. Poor service IMO
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Old Mar 5, 2017, 6:03 pm
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This is NOT a complaint, it's a question.

I flew UA 44 IAH-IAD up front today, sitting in a middle seat on a 764. Before departure, I saw one very pleasant FA walk down the aisle taking PBD orders from pax sitting in the KL seats. Another very pleasant FA walked down the aisle with a tray filled with a variety of PDBs for pax sitting in the ABD seats.

Does UA have standards for its FAs when it comes to delivery of service, or do they just let staff make things up as they go along?
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Old Mar 5, 2017, 6:57 pm
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Well, I was on a ERJ175 1 hour short hop the other day. They announced a 1 hour delay because of incoming crew 20 minutes before scheduled departure time. So, a lot of people were upset already.

The guy in front of me claimed he flies only paid F and he is an AA CK. He went on and on about how bad UA is (AA was sold out, he said). I even felt I had to defend UA's honor Then a few people behind me in group 1, this guy heckled the crew when they showed up.

Anyway, both them ended up sitting together in row 3. I think in a quick turn, the FAs are not obligated to serve the PDB. However, the FA did but had to stop after the first 2 rows when we were ready to depart.

Then the guy who heckled the FA started yelling "I want my drink. This is unprofessional!" The Y FA, who seemed more seasoned, told the guy there would be no drink as we had to leave.

Then he yelled "I am going to write United. They are going to give me a certificate or miles..." Prior to that, this guy also used the F word twice and the S word once in the conversation with the AA CK.

Boy the AA guy must think we are crazy
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Old Mar 5, 2017, 7:21 pm
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LOL - over on AA unicorns are more common than PDBs
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Old Mar 6, 2017, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by halls120
This is NOT a complaint, it's a question.

I flew UA 44 IAH-IAD up front today, sitting in a middle seat on a 764. Before departure, I saw one very pleasant FA walk down the aisle taking PBD orders from pax sitting in the KL seats. Another very pleasant FA walked down the aisle with a tray filled with a variety of PDBs for pax sitting in the ABD seats.

Does UA have standards for its FAs when it comes to delivery of service, or do they just let staff make things up as they go along?
I think it is a common issue for service standards to be unclear for the D seats in the 764 and 763. Every time I have been sat in one, I have been served from both sides, which was OK, since it usually meant refills were more frequent.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 8:37 pm
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No problem getting one on UA 6060 RDU-IAH last Saturday even though I boarded fairly late. Always like when that happens.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 11:42 pm
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I've been told PDB's don't get offered on some international flights due to tax reasons?? Like if drinks are opened on the ground then they have to pay tax. I never get a mixed drink in ICN for this reason. Has anyone else?
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Old Apr 21, 2017, 2:51 am
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Originally Posted by warrenw
I've been told PDB's don't get offered on some international flights due to tax reasons?? Like if drinks are opened on the ground then they have to pay tax. I never get a mixed drink in ICN for this reason. Has anyone else?
Never heard of this before about ICN. I have never flown out of ICN on UA, but I have done Korean Air, Asiana and Air China, and had no probliem getting PDB champange. However, I do note bubbly is not a mixed drink, but I think the principle applies.
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Old Apr 21, 2017, 8:24 am
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Most foreign airlines will serve different (prosecco instead of Champagne), limited, or no alcoholic drinks on the ground in the US to avoid certain taxes.
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