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Thia is a archive thread, the active tread is UA Bag Interlining If Separate Tix with *A Partners (YES) & Non *A Partners (NO)
See Interline Baggage Agreements (single ticket) when there is a single ticket.
When a passenger has two separate tickets, United will though-check (interline) bags only when the second ticket is for UA or *A partner operated travel. Otherwise, UA may not interline the bags and you will need to recheck bags for the second ticket.
With two qualifying separate tickets, when checking bags thru, you will need to present flight information for both tickets at check-in. This includes the itinerary, PNR and eticket number.
Note: Interlining two UA tickets seems to be challenging for some agents. Allow extra time for bag check, just in case, and perhaps suggest contacting the Help Desk if the agent seems to be having issues.
Interlining UA-UA may not be allowed if one ticket is Basic Economy and does not allow free check bags.
Thread on UA-UA bag interlining
UA.com link
Some conditions when UA may not interlining with another carrier on a separate ticket
Exceptions to the non-partner interlining restriction on separate tickets for 1Ks/GSs have been reported. There still needs to be a regular bag interlining agreement in place.
Additionally, one report suggests that exception would apply also to *Gs and Full Fare J passengers
Whenever checking a bag between carriers (on a single or separate tickets), it is recommended to show your bag tag to each downline carrier at the transfer desk/gate to ensure the bag tag information has propagated to their system.
related thread: Overnight, long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated)
See Interline Baggage Agreements (single ticket) when there is a single ticket.
When a passenger has two separate tickets, United will though-check (interline) bags only when the second ticket is for UA or *A partner operated travel. Otherwise, UA may not interline the bags and you will need to recheck bags for the second ticket.
With two qualifying separate tickets, when checking bags thru, you will need to present flight information for both tickets at check-in. This includes the itinerary, PNR and eticket number.
Note: Interlining two UA tickets seems to be challenging for some agents. Allow extra time for bag check, just in case, and perhaps suggest contacting the Help Desk if the agent seems to be having issues.
Interlining UA-UA may not be allowed if one ticket is Basic Economy and does not allow free check bags.
Thread on UA-UA bag interlining
Effective for travel on and after March 1, 2015, when a customer has two separate tickets, United will though-check bags only when the secondary ticket is for travel on the following carriers:
* United and United Express
* Star Alliance partner airlines
With the new policy, a passenger’s baggage will be checked between the origin and destination points that are reflected on a single or conjunctive ticket.
If the traveler holds a second ticket on another airline beyond the destination of the first ticket, United will check the bag to the destination on the first ticket(s). In such situations, the traveler must collect their baggage on arrival at their first ticketed destination, and then re-check baggage with the next carrier for their continuing flight(s).
* United and United Express
* Star Alliance partner airlines
With the new policy, a passenger’s baggage will be checked between the origin and destination points that are reflected on a single or conjunctive ticket.
If the traveler holds a second ticket on another airline beyond the destination of the first ticket, United will check the bag to the destination on the first ticket(s). In such situations, the traveler must collect their baggage on arrival at their first ticketed destination, and then re-check baggage with the next carrier for their continuing flight(s).
If you have a separate ticket on another carrier, you must claim bags at the destination of the first ticketed itinerary and check bags with the other carrier to the final destination. Baggage can be checked through to the final destination if the separate ticketed itinerary includes Star Alliance member airline-operated flights.
- The carrier is not a *A partner
- the connection is overnight
- the connection is less than MCT
- Traveling internationally and connecting to a domestic flight within your destination country
- If the UA ticket is Basic Economy No more "through checking" / interlining of bags when connecting from BE
Exceptions to the non-partner interlining restriction on separate tickets for 1Ks/GSs have been reported. There still needs to be a regular bag interlining agreement in place.
Additionally, one report suggests that exception would apply also to *Gs and Full Fare J passengers
Whenever checking a bag between carriers (on a single or separate tickets), it is recommended to show your bag tag to each downline carrier at the transfer desk/gate to ensure the bag tag information has propagated to their system.
related thread: Overnight, long layover/connection check through baggage question (consolidated)
UA Bag Interlining If Separate Tix w/ *A Partners (YES) & Non-Partners (NO) {Archive}
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Flying EWR - HNL on UA and have a separate ticket from HNL - OGG on Hawaiian Airlines BUT the HNL - OGG ticket was purchased on UA.com so is a 016 ticket stock. Would I still be able to interline?
Would the answer be different if I bought the HNL - OGG directly from Hawaiian? Thanks!
Would the answer be different if I bought the HNL - OGG directly from Hawaiian? Thanks!
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Flying EWR - HNL on UA and have a separate ticket from HNL - OGG on Hawaiian Airlines BUT the HNL - OGG ticket was purchased on UA.com so is a 016 ticket stock. Would I still be able to interline?
Would the answer be different if I bought the HNL - OGG directly from Hawaiian? Thanks!
Would the answer be different if I bought the HNL - OGG directly from Hawaiian? Thanks!
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Seperate tickets UA to IAH then SQ to MAN
Just a follow up question / comment as my flight is this Friday. (I posted back in Nov)
I'm flying UA from STL to IAH on UA. Then a separate ticket on SQ to MAN.
Many have commented that UA should be able to check my bags all the way to my final destination even though I'm on 2 separate tickets. Is this still the consensus?
I'm flying J from IAH to MAN but coach from STL to IAH. Will I have to pay for my bags on the STL - IAH leg?
Thanks
I'm flying UA from STL to IAH on UA. Then a separate ticket on SQ to MAN.
Many have commented that UA should be able to check my bags all the way to my final destination even though I'm on 2 separate tickets. Is this still the consensus?
I'm flying J from IAH to MAN but coach from STL to IAH. Will I have to pay for my bags on the STL - IAH leg?
Thanks
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Just a follow up question / comment as my flight is this Friday. (I posted back in Nov)
I'm flying UA from STL to IAH on UA. Then a separate ticket on SQ to MAN.
Many have commented that UA should be able to check my bags all the way to my final destination even though I'm on 2 separate tickets. Is this still the consensus? ...
I'm flying UA from STL to IAH on UA. Then a separate ticket on SQ to MAN.
Many have commented that UA should be able to check my bags all the way to my final destination even though I'm on 2 separate tickets. Is this still the consensus? ...
But allow extra time at check-in, 20-30 minutes, staff at smaller outstations can be untrained in this and may need help.
If the check-thru is successful, no.
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It is still the UA's policy, as as long as the domestic ticket is not Basic Economy and the break between flights is less than 12 hours or not over night.
But allow extra time at check-in, 20-30 minutes, staff at smaller outstations can be untrained in this and may need help.
If the check-thru is successful, no.
But allow extra time at check-in, 20-30 minutes, staff at smaller outstations can be untrained in this and may need help.
If the check-thru is successful, no.
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Rules (luggage, checkin) when flying domestic Y and international F
Am likely to fly LAS to LAX with United Y, and then LAX to FRA with Lufthansa F. Two separate tickets.
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? Similarly, would I need to check in at the economy line at LAS?
Thanks in advance!
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? Similarly, would I need to check in at the economy line at LAS?
Thanks in advance!
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Am likely to fly LAS to LAX with United Y, and then LAX to FRA with Lufthansa F. Two separate tickets.
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? Similarly, would I need to check in at the economy line at LAS?
Thanks in advance!
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? Similarly, would I need to check in at the economy line at LAS?
Thanks in advance!
And you will have to check-in in the economy line. There is no way to combine when the trip is in two PNRs.
At LAS, the United agent should be able to interline the luggage to your final destination. Just make sure that you allow an additional 15-20 minutes at the airport as sometimes it takes some time for the agent to complete the process. However, if your ticket LAS-LAX is in Basic Economy, there will be no interlining of your luggage to your final destination. And the names on the two tickets have to be exactly the same (like putting a title in one and no title in the other will mess the process).
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", if your ticket LAS-LAX is in Basic Economy, there will be no interlining of your luggage to your final destination. " not even in the same alliance!
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Am likely to fly LAS to LAX with United Y, and then LAX to FRA with Lufthansa F. Two separate tickets.
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? ...
What are the rules in terms of luggage, given that the LH F obviously has a higher luggage allowance? Will the international flight rules 'take priority' and United let me check in with either a heavier bag/two bags (and also hopefully combine the tickets so I don't need to reclaim baggage at LAX) or will I be asked to pay extra? ...
IMO, Yes. You hold an economy ticket
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I have a recent interlining experience, which was not so good.
I asked a contracted agent at Premier Access check-in counter of my home airport (a UA outstation) to interline two bags to LH from LHR to my final destination in the continental EU on a separate 220 ticket. The agent, which I've seen behind the counter at this outstation for several years, seemed to know what he had to do. He said the bags would turn up at the final destination. He showed me the bag tag, and I saw the correct itinerary of the LH flight on top, followed by the 2 UA flights. Same on the stub that I received. The UA in-app baggage tracker showed the complete itinerary for both bags as well.
Long story short, neither bag made it to the final destination. As far as I can tell, based on information from Tile tags in each bag - which matches what the in-app tracker was showing - UA transported both bags to LHR together with me, and then they got stuck. Albeit multiple-hours layover time - including immigration and security I still had ample time to visit both the Welcome Lounge (with a shower) and the United Club in LHR - they never got loaded on the LH flight. Filed lost baggage claim, and the agent couldn't understand either why not one but both bags weren't loaded on the LH flight.
They located one bag pretty quickly and shipped it the same night to my destination, and it was waiting for me in my hotel the next day, but LHR needed 72 hours to locate and ship the other bag, with my Tile showing a stationary "Hounslow, UK" location all the time. The one they found quickly was also severely damaged to boot, but I consider that an unrelated event and have been separately compensated for that.
I'm assuming both bags most likely ended up on the belt in LHR somehow, and yes given that I had ample time I should have checked that ("trust but verify" right) but the whole point of the *A interlining is that you shouldn't. I've been Googling to check if I'm just ignorant and LHR has a "recheck" policy for INTL like the US has, but I couldn't find anything that says this is the case, all sources say LHR checks through according to the bag tag.
LH schlepped my baggage through EU customs without ever asking if I had to declare something to customs, something of which I still don't understand the legal aspects. I've had UA doing the same for me with US customs.
On a positive note, the process was streamlined, and everyone that I spoke with in regards to this issue was very professional and seemed determined to get this fixed asap, both here in the US and in the EU. Without asking for it, LH provided a flyer with all information regarding compensation and paid out my requests in less than a week. But I'll definitely think again about interlining my bags in the future.
TL;DR On a recent trip, both checked bags traveled with me on my 016 itinerary but were never loaded on the final *A interline segment added by a UA check-in agent, albeit more than sufficient layover time. Took 72 hours to recover but I was compensated appropriately.
I asked a contracted agent at Premier Access check-in counter of my home airport (a UA outstation) to interline two bags to LH from LHR to my final destination in the continental EU on a separate 220 ticket. The agent, which I've seen behind the counter at this outstation for several years, seemed to know what he had to do. He said the bags would turn up at the final destination. He showed me the bag tag, and I saw the correct itinerary of the LH flight on top, followed by the 2 UA flights. Same on the stub that I received. The UA in-app baggage tracker showed the complete itinerary for both bags as well.
Long story short, neither bag made it to the final destination. As far as I can tell, based on information from Tile tags in each bag - which matches what the in-app tracker was showing - UA transported both bags to LHR together with me, and then they got stuck. Albeit multiple-hours layover time - including immigration and security I still had ample time to visit both the Welcome Lounge (with a shower) and the United Club in LHR - they never got loaded on the LH flight. Filed lost baggage claim, and the agent couldn't understand either why not one but both bags weren't loaded on the LH flight.
They located one bag pretty quickly and shipped it the same night to my destination, and it was waiting for me in my hotel the next day, but LHR needed 72 hours to locate and ship the other bag, with my Tile showing a stationary "Hounslow, UK" location all the time. The one they found quickly was also severely damaged to boot, but I consider that an unrelated event and have been separately compensated for that.
I'm assuming both bags most likely ended up on the belt in LHR somehow, and yes given that I had ample time I should have checked that ("trust but verify" right) but the whole point of the *A interlining is that you shouldn't. I've been Googling to check if I'm just ignorant and LHR has a "recheck" policy for INTL like the US has, but I couldn't find anything that says this is the case, all sources say LHR checks through according to the bag tag.
LH schlepped my baggage through EU customs without ever asking if I had to declare something to customs, something of which I still don't understand the legal aspects. I've had UA doing the same for me with US customs.
On a positive note, the process was streamlined, and everyone that I spoke with in regards to this issue was very professional and seemed determined to get this fixed asap, both here in the US and in the EU. Without asking for it, LH provided a flyer with all information regarding compensation and paid out my requests in less than a week. But I'll definitely think again about interlining my bags in the future.
TL;DR On a recent trip, both checked bags traveled with me on my 016 itinerary but were never loaded on the final *A interline segment added by a UA check-in agent, albeit more than sufficient layover time. Took 72 hours to recover but I was compensated appropriately.
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Why would you assume that?
As long as your final destination is printed on the luggage tag, there's no reason to think that the bag would have been delivered at LHR.
As for whether or not you have to pick up the bag and carry it through customs: did you have to walk past baggage claim, or did you follow a sign for transferring passengers that just took you from immigration back into the terminal? Usually that's a pretty good clue (except in GUM, where you walk past the baggage claim but don't pick up your bags if you're connecting... :shrug
I've had bags go missing during online transfers; I've had them go missing during interline transfers. I've had bags go missing on nonstop flights. It happens. None of it would make me re-think doing it again in the future.
As long as your final destination is printed on the luggage tag, there's no reason to think that the bag would have been delivered at LHR.
As for whether or not you have to pick up the bag and carry it through customs: did you have to walk past baggage claim, or did you follow a sign for transferring passengers that just took you from immigration back into the terminal? Usually that's a pretty good clue (except in GUM, where you walk past the baggage claim but don't pick up your bags if you're connecting... :shrug
I've had bags go missing during online transfers; I've had them go missing during interline transfers. I've had bags go missing on nonstop flights. It happens. None of it would make me re-think doing it again in the future.
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This applies whether on single or separate tickets - when you have an interline bag, always show your bag tag every time you switch carriers.
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Because of the statistical improbability of having not one but both bags mishandled without an apparent explanation (e.g. tight connection), though there could have been one.
Your observation with regards to picking up/rechecking is a good one. If it weren't for the Welcome Lounge that I wanted to visit, I'd have followed the signs for transferring pax.
I did not, neither did the agent or the relevant paragraph on the UA website instruct me to do this, so this is going to be the lesson to learn out of all this. This is the kind of experience wisdom that should be in the wiki.
I still wonder, what happened when the bags got scanned in LHR (were they not flagged for review?) and why did a multiple hour layover in the same terminal not suffice for a manual intervention to move the bags to the correct bin?
Your observation with regards to picking up/rechecking is a good one. If it weren't for the Welcome Lounge that I wanted to visit, I'd have followed the signs for transferring pax.
I still wonder, what happened when the bags got scanned in LHR (were they not flagged for review?) and why did a multiple hour layover in the same terminal not suffice for a manual intervention to move the bags to the correct bin?
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I had a similar situation at MAD, on a single ticket, UA->SN transfer. My bag never left MAD even though they had plenty of time to get it to SN, and then it took SN 2 1/2 days to deliver it despite them knowing exactly where it was the whole time. I don't remember if I showed my baggage claim check to the SN agent or not. I've had some airlines ask if I had checked bags when making an interline transfer; I don't remember if SN did, and I don't remember going out of my way to mention them.
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Getting my boarding pass...
It is still the UA's policy, as as long as the domestic ticket is not Basic Economy and the break between flights is less than 12 hours or not over night.
But allow extra time at check-in, 20-30 minutes, staff at smaller outstations can be untrained in this and may need help.
If the check-thru is successful, no.
But allow extra time at check-in, 20-30 minutes, staff at smaller outstations can be untrained in this and may need help.
If the check-thru is successful, no.
Thanks