Why does UA not codeshare with WN and "Fix the Problem"?
Jun 6, 2014 | 4:12 pm
#31
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UA has more 777 and 787 domestic ops than either AA/US or DL.
It's easy to cherry pick stats...
Jun 6, 2014 | 4:13 pm
#32
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Sounds like your information are not up to date.
AA and DL flies very few 767 domestically compare to 10 years ago. AA used to fly quite a bit if 767/777 for domestic hub to hub including ORD-MIA, ORD-SFO, ORD-LAX, ORD-DFW, ORD-MIA, DFW-SFO. Now is like down to one 777 LAX-MIA. All AA's transcon 762 just retired and replace with 321. How many DL 763 are flying domestically other than a few transcon ? At one point DL even use 763 for ATL-ORD and the much bigger L1011, but those times are long gone.
Did you realize both AA and DL are both purchasing and delivering all the airbus 319/320/321 currently ? Both of them are slowing retiring 757, once they finished retired all their MD80, 757 will retire much faster than you think.
AA and DL flies very few 767 domestically compare to 10 years ago. AA used to fly quite a bit if 767/777 for domestic hub to hub including ORD-MIA, ORD-SFO, ORD-LAX, ORD-DFW, ORD-MIA, DFW-SFO. Now is like down to one 777 LAX-MIA. All AA's transcon 762 just retired and replace with 321. How many DL 763 are flying domestically other than a few transcon ? At one point DL even use 763 for ATL-ORD and the much bigger L1011, but those times are long gone.
Did you realize both AA and DL are both purchasing and delivering all the airbus 319/320/321 currently ? Both of them are slowing retiring 757, once they finished retired all their MD80, 757 will retire much faster than you think.
Like I said, UA is not a bad airline/company at all, but they can't keep throwing RJ's at routes that deserve at least a 737-700 or A319.
Jun 6, 2014 | 4:17 pm
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Delta and American are at least kind of consistent with what widebody routes they fly. UA will do a hub-hub swap every now and then but that's about it (other than the 787).
Jun 6, 2014 | 4:50 pm
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Thanks for this!Can you do that thing where you insert a bunch of perfectly filtered tables that excellently demonstrate to everyone why they're all wrong?
Jun 6, 2014 | 5:06 pm
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I realize AA and DL are replacing their 767's and 757's. The difference between them and UA though is AA has plenty of 737/A320 family orders, as does Delta and they will do a fair aircraft swap/increase frequency. UA has some 737's on order, but currently UA's plan of attack it seems is to stick a CRJ or ERJ at the route and call it a day.
Like I said, UA is not a bad airline/company at all, but they can't keep throwing RJ's at routes that deserve at least a 737-700 or A319.
Like I said, UA is not a bad airline/company at all, but they can't keep throwing RJ's at routes that deserve at least a 737-700 or A319.
They are retiring 43 ERJs this year and will start retiring CRJs next year.
Jun 6, 2014 | 5:52 pm
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Jun 6, 2014 | 6:13 pm
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Jun 6, 2014 | 6:25 pm
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Jun 6, 2014 | 6:33 pm
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Well I see it only took you 3 days to return with your inimical, petty, and noncontributory injection of hostility to a thread that has over 1,200 views. You just can't quite understand the "WE" aren't impressed with your continual hijacking efforts to attempt to screw up this forum!
Jun 6, 2014 | 7:03 pm
#43
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What about Spirit instead of WN?
As much as I hate to say it, I actually think a codeshare arrangement with Spirit would be very worthwhile for UA since US left the alliance... Spirit would fill in alot of those gaps, particularly in Florida...
Jun 6, 2014 | 7:13 pm
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We have to be careful what we wish for with codeshares on non *A partners. When *A lost BMI, UA plugged that hole with Aer Lingus (EI). It is great for the short hops from LHR-DUB but I have never managed to get RDMs and there are no PQMs. EI doesn't recognize *Gold and there is no lounge access (correctly so as it is not *A).
So while the codeshare is great for UA, it is less so for frequent travelers.
So while the codeshare is great for UA, it is less so for frequent travelers.
Jun 6, 2014 | 7:25 pm
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We have to be careful what we wish for with codeshares on non *A partners. When *A lost BMI, UA plugged that hole with Aer Lingus (EI). It is great for the short hops from LHR-DUB but I have never managed to get RDMs and there are no PQMs. EI doesn't recognize *Gold and there is no lounge access (correctly so as it is not *A).
So while the codeshare is great for UA, it is less so for frequent travelers.
So while the codeshare is great for UA, it is less so for frequent travelers.