My Case For Alan Mulally as UAL CEO
May 17, 2014, 10:13 pm
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last I checked it's Continental with the word "United" on the plane. United was a great airline. Continetal has always been craptaculur. This abomination is nothing like United, which is why the United flyers that had no problem spending money on airfares and premium service have left.Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 17, 2014 at 10:22 pm Reason: typo
May 17, 2014, 10:17 pm
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I was speaking to a PMUA FA yesterday who told me that Smisek needs to go. She blamed all of the PMCO management for the problems at the airline. She also said the airline says UA it is still PMCO & PMUA underneath the covers and they run 2 different operation and the fact that the FAs are on 2 separate contracts is pathetic. There is a lot of tension and friction internally and employee morale is at an all-time low. She said that in her "20+years" she has never seen it this bad.
May 18, 2014, 2:56 am
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Sad thing is that the UA board is famous for bringing in incompetent CEOs--and then keeping them WAYYYYYY beyond all the signs they need to be shown the door 
May 18, 2014, 6:20 am
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I was speaking to a PMUA FA yesterday who told me that Smisek needs to go. She blamed all of the PMCO management for the problems at the airline. She also said the airline says UA it is still PMCO & PMUA underneath the covers and they run 2 different operation and the fact that the FAs are on 2 separate contracts is pathetic. There is a lot of tension and friction internally and employee morale is at an all-time low. She said that in her "20+years" she has never seen it this bad.
May 18, 2014, 12:20 pm
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last I checked it's Continental with the word "United" on the plane. United was a great airline. Continetal has always been craptaculur. This abomination is nothing like United, which is why the United flyers that had no problem spending money on airfares and premium service have left.
May 18, 2014, 12:26 pm
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I was speaking to a PMUA FA yesterday who told me that Smisek needs to go. She blamed all of the PMCO management for the problems at the airline. She also said the airline says UA it is still PMCO & PMUA underneath the covers and they run 2 different operation and the fact that the FAs are on 2 separate contracts is pathetic. There is a lot of tension and friction internally and employee morale is at an all-time low. She said that in her "20+years" she has never seen it this bad.
May 18, 2014, 12:32 pm
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One major key difference - Kellner (and prior) era management *listened* to customers. They appreciated our loyalty and our business. There was little to no hubris, we were not taken for granted. They also listened to their own employees - some pretty bad changes to OP were thwarted not by customers, but management within the company telling Larry K the changes would drive customers away, so those changes did not happen, while other changes were reversed based on customer feedback.
May 18, 2014, 12:38 pm
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The most accurate way I can depict the CAL UAL merger is to say imagine that the New York Yankees were on their way to oblivion due to poor management and the only way to save the team was to merge with the Boston Red Sox in order to get their management group. The result being quite far from synergistic as you can well imagine.
Getting the "arch-rival's management group" as you say was probably the worst free-agent signing of the decade.
May 18, 2014, 12:48 pm
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If any of you hold UA paper - be sure and vote 'against' for all the BOD candidates - be sure your voices are heard. I got my proxy a couple of weeks ago. If you don't vote your proxy, I believe (but am not sure) it defaults to the BOD recommendation - which would be a 'for' all BOD candidates.
May 18, 2014, 1:25 pm
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No it does not work that way/ A unreturned proxy / vote is an abstention which is similar in effect to a no vote. A certain number of responses (usually a majority) is required to have a valid vote -- but given the institutional ownership level that will not be a problem.
May 18, 2014, 3:30 pm
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Jun 6, 2014, 6:22 pm
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What is the purpose of this thread?
I understand the internet forum desire to debate the number angels on a pinhead but this seems like an even less useful exercise.
This will be nothing more than a combination of Simsek bashing (don't have anything against that per se but we seem to have plenty of threats for doing that) and a rehashing of all that is wrong with post merger UA. It is delusional to think anything discussed here will result in a change of the situation. But I guess that critic applies to many threads.
So have at it but don't know why........
I understand the internet forum desire to debate the number angels on a pinhead but this seems like an even less useful exercise.
This will be nothing more than a combination of Simsek bashing (don't have anything against that per se but we seem to have plenty of threats for doing that) and a rehashing of all that is wrong with post merger UA. It is delusional to think anything discussed here will result in a change of the situation. But I guess that critic applies to many threads.
So have at it but don't know why........
Jun 6, 2014, 6:44 pm
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Jun 6, 2014, 6:46 pm
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