FA given upgrade over CPU?
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OP: why didn't you say something to the GA if you saw this happening? You missed the upgrade because the GA was lazy and didn't want to bother, but you should have hit your call button or spoken up if she was nearby and told her you were next on the list and she needs to clear the list.

In reading all the comments here, I do now wish I had said something. I mostly just consider a CPU a 'perk', but since it is indeed policy, employees shouldn't be using it to their advantage.
Thanks again, everyone.
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Haha, seen that done. Poor guy had to pick up his stuff and to the back he went.
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Telling GAs or FAs how to do their job is something I've learned to steer well clear of. 
In reading all the comments here, I do now wish I had said something. I mostly just consider a CPU a 'perk', but since it is indeed policy, employees shouldn't be using it to their advantage.
Thanks again, everyone.

In reading all the comments here, I do now wish I had said something. I mostly just consider a CPU a 'perk', but since it is indeed policy, employees shouldn't be using it to their advantage.
Thanks again, everyone.
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Sorry, I guess I meant that no one has specifically connected the OP's complaint to the fact that it wasn't a "CPU" that was lost in this case, despite the OP repeatedly using that term. I was not referring to the upgrade pecking order, but the name of the actual benefit that was lost.
All I'm saying is, fastfxr, you should emphasize to CS that getting screwed out of a CPU on a high-ish fare is one thing, but losing an -UP to shenanigans is even worse.
All I'm saying is, fastfxr, you should emphasize to CS that getting screwed out of a CPU on a high-ish fare is one thing, but losing an -UP to shenanigans is even worse.
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Telling GAs or FAs how to do their job is something I've learned to steer well clear of. 
In reading all the comments here, I do now wish I had said something. I mostly just consider a CPU a 'perk', but since it is indeed policy, employees shouldn't be using it to their advantage.
Thanks again, everyone.

In reading all the comments here, I do now wish I had said something. I mostly just consider a CPU a 'perk', but since it is indeed policy, employees shouldn't be using it to their advantage.
Thanks again, everyone.
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I disagree with the assertion that upgrading a few passengers who have already boarded causes flight delays. PMNW always managed to do this without any problems, although sometimes the person being upgraded was asked not to move bags in the overhead bin until at least the flight was up in the air with the seat belt sign off.
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Last Feb, I flew in paid F on ATL-SFO on DL on a Friday midday flight, F was sold out a few weeks in advance and remained that way pretty much until boarding. The list was over 40 deep with 24/24 seats checked in. We boarded, turns out there were a couple of misconnects and the flight closed with 19/24 seats occupied in F. Not one single person was upgraded, because they boarded the flight rather than waiting over at the podium.
While it may seem less disruptive to the boarding process, it is undoubtedly more disruptive to the GAs. I have seen many situations where there were several Diamonds hovering the podium distracting the GA over 1 or 2 open seats and the others constantly asking in hopes of no show. DL GAs does a pretty good job of being patient and answering the same question over and over again, but I can see that they want to focus on getting the flight out on time.
Having UA's SOP where everyone boards irregardless of the F cabin availability then the GA can run the upgrade and being down the BPs along with the final paperwork to the plane. They know who is onboard and those on the upgrade list who didn't board would have been offloaded and thusly removed from the upgrade list automatically. In this case, sounds like the GA processed the upgrade first before offloading no shows.
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I'm not even sure if I should post this...or if it's been discussed before.
Purchased a pricey M-class, domestic fare out of IAH to destination XXX. Forgot to put in for a RPU, because I was more focused on work.
Departure comes around and I'm 2nd on the list for a CPU. Boarded plane and eventually GA comes through and asks for #1 on the list who, somehow, isn't in his seat or around. GA gives the upgrade to an FA, doesn't even consider 2nd or 3rd on the list.
Now I wasn't all butt-hurt or anything, but given my yearly spend, status, and the $$$$ I spent on the fare, kinda thought it'd be a nice gesture...but I didn't dwell on it.
Turns out there was a GS behind me and more than a few other premier members upset over it.
So...is this something that should be mentioned to UA? (Posted??!)
It was CO staff on board and GA, so...
What say the wise ones here? First time I've ever seen this in 15 years.
Purchased a pricey M-class, domestic fare out of IAH to destination XXX. Forgot to put in for a RPU, because I was more focused on work.
Departure comes around and I'm 2nd on the list for a CPU. Boarded plane and eventually GA comes through and asks for #1 on the list who, somehow, isn't in his seat or around. GA gives the upgrade to an FA, doesn't even consider 2nd or 3rd on the list.
Now I wasn't all butt-hurt or anything, but given my yearly spend, status, and the $$$$ I spent on the fare, kinda thought it'd be a nice gesture...but I didn't dwell on it.
Turns out there was a GS behind me and more than a few other premier members upset over it.
So...is this something that should be mentioned to UA? (Posted??!)
It was CO staff on board and GA, so...
What say the wise ones here? First time I've ever seen this in 15 years.
"Dear Mr. XXXX,
I have forwarded your concern to the Airport manager for internal review
of this specific matter. The standby employees should only be offered
seats once all paid passengers are boarded. A 1K should be offered an
Economy Plus seat before a standby employees and your concern will be
addressed.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
XXXXX
Corporate Customer Care
7319363"
When I asked for compensation and refund in fare class difference they said they would refund the diff (never actually did they refund it) and that I was not eligible for any compensation because I just received compensation for my mechanically delayed outbound flight to HGK two days earlier. (4 hour delay, 1.5 of which on the tarmac, then they proceeded go back to gate and cancel rebooking for the next day)
Sometimes things just don't go your way.
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Compensation received for an outbound MX shouldn't affect compensation on the return for a different issue.
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I completely feel your pain and if it makes you feel any better it happens on paid F situations too. I was on my way back from HKG when mechanical delays caused me to miss connection in SFO to ORD. They were able to reroute me home but sat me in 38 F when I was on a paid F fare. As I was boarding I walked by 6 FA's sitting in E+ when I was two rows in front of the toilet. When I wrote 1k to ask why that happened here was their response.
"Dear Mr. XXXX,
I have forwarded your concern to the Airport manager for internal review
of this specific matter. The standby employees should only be offered
seats once all paid passengers are boarded. A 1K should be offered an
Economy Plus seat before a standby employees and your concern will be
addressed.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
XXXXX
Corporate Customer Care
7319363"
When I asked for compensation and refund in fare class difference they said they would refund the diff (never actually did they refund it) and that I was not eligible for any compensation because I just received compensation for my mechanically delayed outbound flight to HGK two days earlier. (4 hour delay, 1.5 of which on the tarmac, then they proceeded go back to gate and cancel rebooking for the next day)
Sometimes things just don't go your way.
"Dear Mr. XXXX,
I have forwarded your concern to the Airport manager for internal review
of this specific matter. The standby employees should only be offered
seats once all paid passengers are boarded. A 1K should be offered an
Economy Plus seat before a standby employees and your concern will be
addressed.
Thank you very much.
Regards,
XXXXX
Corporate Customer Care
7319363"
When I asked for compensation and refund in fare class difference they said they would refund the diff (never actually did they refund it) and that I was not eligible for any compensation because I just received compensation for my mechanically delayed outbound flight to HGK two days earlier. (4 hour delay, 1.5 of which on the tarmac, then they proceeded go back to gate and cancel rebooking for the next day)
Sometimes things just don't go your way.
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Really, I don't think thats true. When ever I'm number #1 or even #2 on the UG list, I monitor the UG list via my BB after boarding. Several times I've seen that I've been upgraded after boarding, generally at about the 10-15 minute mark before departure. The GA then finds me packing up my stuff in anticipation of the move to the Front part of the plane.


