Feb 20, 2014, 8:54 am
Last edit by: JOSECONLSCREW28
LAX-MEL on the new 787-9, 6x weekly
SYD-MEL-SYD tag-on is being dropped.
The 789 is sCO, delivery expected in the summer.
UA options to Australia will now be:
SFO-SYD - 3-class sUA 777
LAX-SYD - 3-class sUA 777
LAX-MEL - sCO 2-class 789 with 48J/88Y+/116Y 252 seats total
GUM-CNS - sCO 2-class 738 (2x per week)
LAX - MEL schedule:
98 LAX - MEL (will not operate on Tuesdays)
10:30p 9:15a+2 1545 (Except Thursday)
9:30p 8:15a+2 1545 (Thursdays Only)
(Operated by a 789 on Sundays, Thursdays, & Saturdays)
(Operated by a 788 on Mondays, Wednesdays, & Fridays)
99 MEL - LAX (will not operate on Thursdays)
11:15a 6:50a 1435 (Except Saturday)
3:15p 10:50a 1435 (Saturdays Only)
(Operated by a 789 on Mondays, Tuesdays, & Saturdays)
(Operated by a 788 on Sundays, Wednesdays, & Fridays)
SYD-MEL-SYD tag-on is being dropped.
The 789 is sCO, delivery expected in the summer.
UA options to Australia will now be:
SFO-SYD - 3-class sUA 777
LAX-SYD - 3-class sUA 777
LAX-MEL - sCO 2-class 789 with 48J/88Y+/116Y 252 seats total
GUM-CNS - sCO 2-class 738 (2x per week)
LAX - MEL schedule:
98 LAX - MEL (will not operate on Tuesdays)
10:30p 9:15a+2 1545 (Except Thursday)
9:30p 8:15a+2 1545 (Thursdays Only)
(Operated by a 789 on Sundays, Thursdays, & Saturdays)
(Operated by a 788 on Mondays, Wednesdays, & Fridays)
99 MEL - LAX (will not operate on Thursdays)
11:15a 6:50a 1435 (Except Saturday)
3:15p 10:50a 1435 (Saturdays Only)
(Operated by a 789 on Mondays, Tuesdays, & Saturdays)
(Operated by a 788 on Sundays, Wednesdays, & Fridays)
UA to Start LAX-MEL (787-9) Service, Effective 26-Oct-2014
Feb 20, 2014, 3:38 pm
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I am confused.
Seatguru talks about lie flat J seats in the 787.
Does this mean they are 180deg flat or slopped ?
I assume they are not the great J suites on the transpac 747s.
Seatguru talks about lie flat J seats in the 787.
Does this mean they are 180deg flat or slopped ?
I assume they are not the great J suites on the transpac 747s.
Feb 20, 2014, 3:38 pm
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I am not joking, I have gold on UA but any airline that could get me to SYD without the SH that is LAX I would give my loyalty..
Feb 20, 2014, 3:42 pm
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Feb 20, 2014, 3:46 pm
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All are front facing.
Feb 20, 2014, 4:36 pm
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Feb 20, 2014, 4:48 pm
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Great for service but sad because I loved seeing those UA 744s at LAX. Does anyone know where the 747's that fly this LAX-SYD-MEL & SFO-SYD-MEL route will end up?
Feb 20, 2014, 4:56 pm
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No direct aisle access. State of the art business class seats are now all configured for 100% direct aisle access.
LAX-MEL is a new route and has nothing to do with the 744s moving off of LAX/SFO-SYD, to be replaced with sUA772s. That was already planned.
LAX-MEL is a new route and has nothing to do with the 744s moving off of LAX/SFO-SYD, to be replaced with sUA772s. That was already planned.
Feb 20, 2014, 5:23 pm
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I would think that a similar arrangement would be in place for domestic SYD-MEL passengers.
Feb 20, 2014, 5:26 pm
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A minor nit - but the age of the sCO seats is showcased in the IFE UX. Feels like something out of the early 2000s...oh wait, that is when they were designed.
Feb 20, 2014, 5:32 pm
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If you're on the lower deck in the 4-abreast C seats, sure. Upper deck, not so much so. The window seats up there have a huge amount of storage space, all of it accessible throughout the flight.
Feb 20, 2014, 5:51 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kacee
No direct aisle access. State of the art business class seats are now all configured for 100% direct aisle access.
Enjoy Flying Delta as they are the only airline offering a direct SYD->USA with the above config
Just a single Syd->LAX service per day
Originally Posted by Kacee
No direct aisle access. State of the art business class seats are now all configured for 100% direct aisle access.
Enjoy Flying Delta as they are the only airline offering a direct SYD->USA with the above config
Just a single Syd->LAX service per day
Within say 3 years, X% of DL and Y% of AA fleet will have a modern all aisle access C. Z% for UA. Z=0.
Quote:
Originally Posted by star_world
They are arguably better than the J seats on the 747 - much wider, and far more storage space. 180deg flat bed seats.
All are front facing.
I take it you've not flown the 744 upper deck?
A minor nit - but the age of the sCO seats is showcased in the IFE UX. Feels like something out of the early 2000s...oh wait, that is when they were designed.
Originally Posted by star_world
They are arguably better than the J seats on the 747 - much wider, and far more storage space. 180deg flat bed seats.
All are front facing.
I take it you've not flown the 744 upper deck?
A minor nit - but the age of the sCO seats is showcased in the IFE UX. Feels like something out of the early 2000s...oh wait, that is when they were designed.
Obviously the brand new 787s should have gotten a new product from day 1. CO only had what 6-7 years to pick a design.
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Feb 20, 2014, 6:03 pm
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The comment you responded to was about C generally, not a specific route.
Within say 3 years, X% of DL and Y% of AA fleet will have a modern all aisle access C. Z% for UA. Z=0.
Which is why upthread I said even the sCO 777s need a new C product. Y in the 777 is like SQ's now 2 gen old 772, including seats. Less IFE selection of course too.
Obviously the brand new 787s should have gotten a new product from day 1. CO only had what 6-7 years to pick a design.
Within say 3 years, X% of DL and Y% of AA fleet will have a modern all aisle access C. Z% for UA. Z=0.
Which is why upthread I said even the sCO 777s need a new C product. Y in the 777 is like SQ's now 2 gen old 772, including seats. Less IFE selection of course too.
Obviously the brand new 787s should have gotten a new product from day 1. CO only had what 6-7 years to pick a design.
Feb 20, 2014, 6:09 pm
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I think it has a shot simply because the route makes MEL a single-connect from, by my count, about 35 new markets which previously only had single-transfer service on a QF/AA codeshare. These flights will be prioritized higher on a GDS display and UA can attract a fare premium consistent with that type of routing (which QF/AA already capture).
But, hey, many of us have said that UAL runs from competition, here they have not.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "minimal problems" ORD to SYD is 8034nm. The max range of the 789 is 8,185 nm. But going west you would hit 50 nm or more winds, and even stronger winds in the winter. Going west, either a tech stop, or a water landing would be needed.