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Old Dec 11, 2014, 5:43 pm
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DoT is proposing increased lost bag compensation -- increased from $3,500 to $3,800 effective 21 April 2021
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Suggested reading is UA's lost bag info on the web: Baggage Info, Checked Bag Issues, checked UA's Baggage tracing and Damaged Bags

Delayed baggage and claim form
Updated prior to June 2023 to removed the $1,500 statement

new statement
Bags that don’t arrive with you at your destination are considered delayed. Customers whose bags were delayed somewhere other than where they live may submit a claim for reimbursement of expenses, along with receipts, for the period during which their bags were delayed. If the bags aren’t found after five days, the customer may also submit a claim for their lost bags. Reimbursed expenses will be deducted from the total we pay you if your bags are permanently lost. You can submit a claim below.

For bags still lost after five days
If we can’t find your bag after five days, we’ll reimburse you for the value of your bag, its contents, and any fees you paid to check the bag. Receipts may be required and certain items might not be eligible for reimbursement. Depending on your trip, maximum claim limits may also apply.

The fastest way to start a claim is online, using the button below.
https://baggageclaimform.united.com/...uagecode=en-us

You can also contact us at the Baggage Recovery Center to file a claim:
old statement

For bags still lost after five days

If we’re unable to find your bag after five days, you may be eligible for $1,500 for the value of your baggage and its contents without requiring any documentation.
If we can’t find your bag after five days, we’ll reimburse you for the value of your bag, its contents, and any fees you paid to check the bag. Receipts may be required and certain items might not be eligible for reimbursement. Depending on your trip, maximum claim limits may also apply.Contact a United Representative at the Baggage Resolution Center by calling:
If the value of your lost bag and its contents is more than $1,500, you can document and claim a higher amount, with receipts. The most you can claim is $3,500 for flights within the U.S. There are different maximums for international flights. Customers whose baggage was delayed in a location other than their place of residence may submit a claim for reimbursement of interim expenses for the period during which the baggage was delayed, providing receipts. If the baggage is not found after five days, the customer may submit a claim for the lost baggage. The interim expenses will be deducted from the legal limit of reimbursement if the bag is permanently lost. Use the link below to submit a claim.
https://www.wheresmysuitcase.com/

When multiple carriers are involved, IATA convention on bag issues is that your claim is to be processed with the last carrier noted on the claim tag. that should have delivered the bags regardless on which carrier may or may not have created the issue.

Montreal Convention - Wikipedia
The Montreal Convention changes and generally increases the maximum liability of airlines for lost baggage to a fixed amount 1,131 SDR per passenger (the amount in the Warsaw Convention is based on weight of the baggage). It requires airlines to fully compensate travelers the cost of replacement items purchased until the baggage is delivered, to a maximum of 1,131 SDR. At 21 days any delayed baggage is considered lost, until the airline finds and delivers it.
Montreal Convention - IATA
Limits on Baggage Liability
Domestic Baggage Liability
  • For DOMESTIC flights, DOT regulation allows airlines to limit their liability for a lost, damaged, or delayed bag. Airlines are free to pay more than the limit, but are not required to do so.
  • The maximum liability amount allowed by the regulation is $3,800 per passenger.
International Baggage Liability
  • For most INTERNATIONAL flights, a treaty called the Montreal Convention applies to the carriage of baggage. The maximum baggage liability for flights covered by the Montreal Convention is currently 1,288 Special Drawing Rights (approximately $1,700.00 US) per passenger. This is the most that airlines must pay a passenger for a lost, damaged, or delayed bag. Airlines are free to pay more than the limit, but are not required to do so.
  • The Montreal Convention’s international baggage liability limit is reviewed for inflationary adjustment every five years by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
  • In the few situations when the Montreal Convention does not apply to travel to and from the United States, an older treaty called the “Warsaw Convention ” may apply.

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Old Jun 26, 2022, 11:33 am
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Bags, according to the scan on the UA app, were loaded on Friday 6/24. Scheduled departure from MUC is daily at 12:20 pm, local time.
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Old Jun 26, 2022, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by ugs/dca/iad
Bags, according to the scan on the UA app, were loaded on Friday 6/24. Scheduled departure from MUC is daily at 12:20 pm, local time.
Ok got it - when I lost my bag it first reappeared by checking the app and selecting More / Track My bags / Search by bag tag - several days later.
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Old Jun 26, 2022, 12:42 pm
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I have been checking the app repeatedly and it reads the same as 6/24 shortly after arrival at IAD—bags loaded 6/24 at MUC, flight arrived Dulles 6/24 at 3:11pm local time. Nothing more, no scan that the bags were off loaded.
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 5:50 am
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Had a bag delivered on day 6 or 7 (well past the 120hour mark). UA is denying the $1,500 claim since they never lost the bag, it was just delayed, and I now have it. It ended up sitting in EWR for 5-6 days before the delivery company got it to me.

Are they correct in denying my claim? If no what's my next step?
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 7:11 am
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Originally Posted by paulsalem
Had a bag delivered on day 6 or 7 (well past the 120hour mark). UA is denying the $1,500 claim since they never lost the bag, it was just delayed, and I now have it. It ended up sitting in EWR for 5-6 days before the delivery company got it to me.

Are they correct in denying my claim? If no what's my next step?
Here is the info from UA Website:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...e/delayed.aspx

For bags still lost after five days

If we’re unable to find your bag after five days, you may be eligible for $1,500 for the value of your baggage and its contents without requiring any documentation. Contact a United Representative at the Baggage Resolution Center by calling:If the value of your lost bag and its contents is more than $1,500, you can document and claim a higher amount, with receipts. The most you can claim is $3,500 for flights within the U.S. There are different maximums for international flights. Customers whose baggage was delayed in a location other than their place of residence may submit a claim for reimbursement of interim expenses for the period during which the baggage was delayed, providing receipts. If the baggage is not found after five days, the customer may submit a claim for the lost baggage. The interim expenses will be deducted from the legal limit of reimbursement if the bag is permanently lost. Use the link below to submit a claim.
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine

For bags still lost after five days

If we’re unable to find your bag after five days, you may be eligible for $1,500 for the value of your baggage and its contents without requiring any documentation. Contact a United Representative at the Baggage Resolution Center by calling:If the value of your lost bag and its contents is more than $1,500, you can document and claim a higher amount, with receipts. The most you can claim is $3,500 for flights within the U.S. There are different maximums for international flights. Customers whose baggage was delayed in a location other than their place of residence may submit a claim for reimbursement of interim expenses for the period during which the baggage was delayed, providing receipts. If the baggage is not found after five days, the customer may submit a claim for the lost baggage. The interim expenses will be deducted from the legal limit of reimbursement if the bag is permanently lost. Use the link below to submit a claim.
That doesn't really answer my question. I have read the policy. But thanks for the help.

The underlying question is: What is the definition of "lost". It seems UA is claiming since they knew where the bags were, they were never lost. However, that doesn't seem to be the spirit of the policy. I'm interested in what other's have experienced in the past?
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Old Jun 28, 2022, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by paulsalem
That doesn't really answer my question. I have read the policy. But thanks for the help.

The underlying question is: What is the definition of "lost". It seems UA is claiming since they knew where the bags were, they were never lost. However, that doesn't seem to be the spirit of the policy. I'm interested in what other's have experienced in the past?
HUCA that’s typically what I would’ve said but now I would re-address this with another agent.. lost vs delayed if they knew where they were you should’ve had them on day one. The good thing is your reunited with all your luggage now. I would push back pretty hard. I’ll leave it to others to give further commentary. Best of luck
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Old Jul 2, 2022, 1:03 pm
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Bags delayed on UA107 MUC-IAD on June 24 still in limbo. UA now admits the bags are still in Munich, even though track my bag function showed bags scanned and loaded on flight.

track my bags function no longer works for our 4 checked bags so calling global and getting put through to premier bag service leads to a wait, last time, of one hour and 20 minutes.

after multiple unsuccessful attempts I have finally filed a claim which l led to a message that I should expect to hear back in 6-8 weeks.
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Old Jul 3, 2022, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Flying Machine
Here is the info from UA Website:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/con...e/delayed.aspx

For bags still lost after five days

If we’re unable to find your bag after five days, you may be eligible for $1,500 for the value of your baggage and its contents without requiring any documentation. Contact a United Representative at the Baggage Resolution Center by calling:If the value of your lost bag and its contents is more than $1,500, you can document and claim a higher amount, with receipts. The most you can claim is $3,500 for flights within the U.S. There are different maximums for international flights. Customers whose baggage was delayed in a location other than their place of residence may submit a claim for reimbursement of interim expenses for the period during which the baggage was delayed, providing receipts. If the baggage is not found after five days, the customer may submit a claim for the lost baggage. The interim expenses will be deducted from the legal limit of reimbursement if the bag is permanently lost. Use the link below to submit a claim.
Bolding mine...
Legalese to deny your claim by using the word "may"
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Old Jul 3, 2022, 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by teddybear99
Bolding mine...
Legalese to deny your claim by using the word "may"
Do you have an experience being denied? Many have reported success, the recent denial is an outlier, hope the poster tries again as they have been advised.
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Old Jul 4, 2022, 2:41 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
Do you have an experience being denied? Many have reported success, the recent denial is an outlier, hope the poster tries again as they have been advised.
Personally, no. Family, yes. My flight experiences with UA after its merger with Continental led me to leave and I now fly Delta or its partners instead.
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Old Jul 4, 2022, 6:25 am
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So is the UA bag tracker essentially useless, or is it just me? I flew DEN->IAD yesterday and my bag didn't show up. It showed as being loaded onto the flight, but never got scanned after landing. The agent at IAD said that based on her experience it probably never actually made it onto the plane, meaning that the "loaded onto flight" scan must not be occurring during actual loading - rather, it's done at some step beforehand, the result being that there's still an opportunity for a bag to be scanned as loaded but not actually loaded. To which one must naturally ask - what's the point? If the "loaded on flight" scan merely tells me that the bag *probably* made it onto the plane, it's useless information because I already knew that in the first place (insofar as any given piece of luggage will "probably" go where it's supposed to).

I see someone above also having this exact experience with their MUC->IAD flight.

Fortunately my bag was found and delivered to my house that night, but I'll never know what happened since UA apparently stops updating the public/app tracker once there's an issue - presumably due to shame.
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Old Jul 4, 2022, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by teddybear99
Personally, no. Family, yes. My flight experiences with UA after its merger with Continental led me to leave and I now fly Delta or its partners instead.
Any Recent Data from your Family members would be helpful to others.
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Old Jul 4, 2022, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by kilton
So is the UA bag tracker essentially useless, or is it just me? I flew DEN->IAD yesterday and my bag didn't show up. It showed as being loaded onto the flight, but never got scanned after landing. The agent at IAD said that based on her experience it probably never actually made it onto the plane, meaning that the "loaded onto flight" scan must not be occurring during actual loading - rather, it's done at some step beforehand, the result being that there's still an opportunity for a bag to be scanned as loaded but not actually loaded. To which one must naturally ask - what's the point? If the "loaded on flight" scan merely tells me that the bag *probably* made it onto the plane, it's useless information because I already knew that in the first place (insofar as any given piece of luggage will "probably" go where it's supposed to).

I see someone above also having this exact experience with their MUC->IAD flight.

Fortunately my bag was found and delivered to my house that night, but I'll never know what happened since UA apparently stops updating the public/app tracker once there's an issue - presumably due to shame.
The tracker is relatively accurate IME, though if I have a day trip, it's often confused and claims no bag is associated with the tag, etc.

I think the issue you encountered is more with the IAD ground staff than the bag tracker. I've seen my bag come out on the wrong claim several times (e.g. says claim 6, shows up on claim 4, etc.), and even the scans claim it was put on the "right" claim. I also had one where my bag never showed up, and we spent a while with the bag staff as they put through trays, etc., to see if the bag was stuck. Everything showed it had arrived at the particular carousel... the baggage staff suggested someone might have picked it up by mistake (it's a very visually distinctive bag, so that was IMHO unlikely). My thought was that it got sent to the wrong carousel, and I walked around looking for it for a while with no luck. Later that evening, they located it and said it must have just been left down beneath the carousel (which is odd since they didn't see it when running trays through?). I drove back out rather than waiting for the delivery service (which always ends up dropping the bag at like 3am IME) and picked it up.
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Old Jul 4, 2022, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by exerda
I think the issue you encountered is more with the IAD ground staff than the bag tracker. I've seen my bag come out on the wrong claim several times (e.g. says claim 6, shows up on claim 4, etc.), and even the scans claim it was put on the "right" claim.
Hmm, it never got scanned as coming off the plane though. That's what lead the UA baggage rep to conclude that it never actually left DEN. But that's interesting about bags showing up on the wrong carousel - I'll have to keep that in mind.

I would love to know precisely at which points in the loading & unloading processes these scans occur.
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