UA-NYC

At this point, you are the only one "reportedly" saying they are coming to the 737s next year. I know you have your "sources" and all, but Aaron's statement pretty much refutes your post, at least at this point in time.

I'm also not sure why you think you getting a "no comment" on proprietary, non-public information means that these seats are likely to come.

spin88

Aaron: No offense, but this is not particularly informative. First, UAL has been quoted as not getting the seats that they wanted on the 787 (You wanted to put BE Pinnacle B with IFE - seats I think are on the retrofitted 764s and on some sky interior 738s - but it was not yet approved by Boeing, so you did not push the matter.)

Frankly, I don't know what seat is on the 787 in Y, perhaps you can tell us so we know what you are suggesting? I think its the same seat as on the ex-UA two class 763s, but I've only been in BF on those (and BTB, those seats are too short, not flying that again...) It sounds like you are suggesting that it is a Recardo seat, yet it looks nothing like any of the slimline Racardos.

Perhaps someone (calling JC28....) can give some 411...

But even "emulating" a range of seats by Recardo does not tell us much. We know that the seats being put on the airbus by UAL (model 3520) are not so hot on longer flights. But there are a number of Recardo Slim Line seats (photos of them are here): http://www.recaro-as.com/economy-class-486.html Is UAL intending to use the long haul version?

Can you give us some further 411, at this point most of us have little belief UAL will do anything but pick the lowest/cheapest option, so "emulating" is not telling us much.

p.s. the Weber (now Zodiac) slimline economy class seat (I think they are 5751). that move forward with recline (used by AA and DL) are not bad, ditto the Pinnacle seat, much better than the direction UAL is going.

sbm12

Except that UA Insider also confirmed that new seats are coming. Now it is down to the details on what they are, something which has not been clearly answered by anyone from UA.

We'll see what they are. I was pretty clear in stating that it isn't the same seat as in the Airbus but something similar. I suppose we'll find out soon enough just how similar they are. And given that the seats on the 763 and the 788 are different, I'm not 100% certain what to expect out of the 737 plans.

As for doubting my sources, I'm curious what stories I've reported based on similar sources which turned out to be false. Got any examples?

The B/E Aerospace seats are also pretty nice IME, given a very limited amount of time in the seat.

golfingboy

+1, Last weekend I had the horror of boarding and sitting in 17L on the 764 for about 15 minutes until the FA gave me a new BP for 1B

I was pleased with the seat and the recline, which was definitely 1-2" more than what we are accustomed on many domestic birds or in E-.

Are they the same seats found on the sCO 752s? If so, I was pretty comfortable when my upgrade did not clear on OSL-EWR.

spin88

I agree, and have modified my post to make it clearer. I think that the BE Pinnicle and the Weber slim line (which I sit on DL on the few flights I am not upgraded or buy F ) are both MUCH better than the new Recardo Slim line on the UA airbuses. The short seat bottom and lack of padding and the sort of odd rake of the backrest are not a good combo. And as UA-NYC has noted, the headrests are useless.

My quess is that the Pinnicle and the Webers are ever so slightly (perhaps a lb or two) heavier, so UAL went with the cheaper option, without thinking about customer satisfaction issues on flights that are not 1-2 hours, but often 4-6 hours. But I think the real reason why they are going with the Recardo is the short seat cushion (something that makes it uncomfortable) allows the pitch to be shortened... so its about that extra row...

If so, that suggests that the ONLY seat we will see they use is the same seat going on the Airbus...

JC1120

I had this conversation with sbm12 separately, but I thought it was relevant to re-echo here. I think the UA slimline seats will be an improvement over the CO Koitos. I even liked the Recaros when Iberia had the first incarnation and even the LH NEKs. However, I admit that I'm probably not typical as I like my firm reasonably firm (as opposed to soft and pillowy), just the same way I like my suspension and car seats (as opposed to Caddy-like).

dw

Here it is:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united...181500142.html

Photos:
http://newsroom.unitedcontinentalhol...m/seatredesign

- Debuting today on a Skywest CRJ-700
- Plan is for these seats to be on 500 aircraft; 400 by 2015

Not sure what model this seat is, but it doesn't look like the new Airbus slimline seats or the seats installed on newer 737s or widebodies.

FriendlySkies

The new 737 seat...

sbm12

Looks an awful lot like a slimline seat to me.

golfingboy

Thanks for sharing ^ They do look and seem to be considerably more comfortable than the slim Recaro seats found on the Airbuses. Particularly with a deeper base, but the picture may be fooling my eyes.

JC1120

That looks like the Pinnacle seat, just with a new look, which jives with my understanding that the 737s will be staying with the Pinnacle seats through the refresh. The Recaros will stay on the Airbii, but will receive the new look as well.

sbm12

Is it just me or does the seat on the left there not have a tray table??

dw

Personally, I find the new colors a bit garish... but then again, it does scream "United" to me, whereas the new Airbus seats are so generic they could be on any airline.

UA-NYC

Hey, UA actually discovered the world of design! ^

(Curious why they didn't delay the Airbus reconfigs to add in this much better looking, and hopefully comfort-wise, seat)

fly18725

I heard a comment that the Airbus reconfiguration planning actually started pre-merger. Perhaps the contract to purchase the seats was signed prior to planning for a new fleet-wide seat.