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Normal economy "saver" award inventory is X
All UA elites have access XN inventory for economy awards

Normal business / domestic first award "saver" inventory is I
1K / Plat have access to IN inventory
GS have access to PN inventory (and some ability to convert cash inventory space to award space)

PremiumPlus "saver" award inventory is RN
There is not additional inventory for elites
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Old Oct 30, 2015, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by JBord
I'm curious, how many people boarded in the Platinum group? I have the belief, (backed by no data or logic ) that Platinum is probably not a large group of elites overall. The benefits are really not much better than Gold, and if you're that close, why not get 1K, which is a much better set of benefits?
I don't feel that achieving 75K miles is "close" to achieving 100K - that's 33% more travel. Also, I personally waive the PQD with my credit card spending. That doesn't work for achieving 1K status.

And I find Platinum to have decent additional benefits over Gold. One, there are no fees for award travel - no redeposit, change or close-in booking fees. Also, there are no fees for same day changes. There is also supposedly better availability of saver awards in premium cabins. And up until now one of the biggest benefits in my opinion was group 1 boarding.
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Old Oct 30, 2015, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by nycityny
There is also supposedly better availability of saver awards in premium cabins.
Sadly, this is false. Merely an urban legend. Better availability doesn't even exist for 1K.

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Old Oct 30, 2015, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by nycityny
I don't feel that achieving 75K miles is "close" to achieving 100K - that's 33% more travel. Also, I personally waive the PQD with my credit card spending. That doesn't work for achieving 1K status.
Ditto on the "close" -- Last year I finished the year with 0.5 segments (IIRC) over the threshold to reach Platinum -- and that was only because I was so close that I booked a same day CLE-ORD-CLE in the middle of December to knock me over. There would have been absolutely no justifiable reason to fly another 29.5 PQS in November/December (when I finally had a good grasp of how close to plat I would be)

I'm going to hit 1K this year (by a narrow margin of PQS; I had the PQD wrapped up in June) but as a virtually entirely domestic traveler I don't see that many more benefits vs. Plat that would make it worthwhile to "reach" for it. GPUs, for example, are almost certainly going to go unused based on my travel patterns and standing authorization to just buy premium cabins if I do have an international business trip come up.
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Old Oct 30, 2015, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by nycityny
I don't feel that achieving 75K miles is "close" to achieving 100K - that's 33% more travel. Also, I personally waive the PQD with my credit card spending. That doesn't work for achieving 1K status.

And I find Platinum to have decent additional benefits over Gold. One, there are no fees for award travel - no redeposit, change or close-in booking fees. Also, there are no fees for same day changes. There is also supposedly better availability of saver awards in premium cabins. And up until now one of the biggest benefits in my opinion was group 1 boarding.
I've been Gold, Platinum, and 1K over the last 5 years. The year I was Plat, I think I was at about 88k miles. Not all elites just hit the minimum. Those are the people who I think might say why not go for 1K. I don't feel the same about Platinum, if I were Gold with 63k miles. In fact, I finished last year at 67k or 68k I believe.

Gold doesn't pay same day change fees either. For me, the big jump was the CPU success at 1K (which will vary for everyone) and the GPU's.

If there are enough Platinums to deserve their own boarding group, I'm cool with that. I was just envisioning a group that had 2-3 people per flight.
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Old Oct 30, 2015, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by nycityny
Also, there are no fees for same day changes.
I agree with everything else in your post, but note there are no SDC fees for Golds.

One of my biggest disappointments with falling from Plat to Gold was the loss of fee waivers for award bookings.
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Old Nov 3, 2015, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bseller
Sadly, this is false. Merely an urban legend. Better availability doesn't even exist for 1K.

Dave
No, it is actually TRUE. My coworker is a 1k. He logs in and gets more award availability for business saver than I do.
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Old Nov 3, 2015, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by NDN
No, it is actually TRUE. My coworker is a 1k. He logs in and gets more award availability for business saver than I do.
We (well, I) shall find out in the next couple weeks... I'm hoping it's true.

Right now I'm a plat, will be a 1K by the Thanksgiving. Taking my girlfriend to Australia for our anniversary [and likely a proposal] in March. Have BF Saver for the trip over. Currently in Econ Saver (waitlisted for BF Saver) on the trip back.

Not logged in there's 0 saver economy or premium from SYD or MEL the week we need to come back. Logged in as a plat, there's saver economy two days that week from SYD (Tuesday and Thursday, IIRC) but no saver anything from MEL or premium from SYD until the middle of April.

So there's definitely better saver inventory for Plat (which matches my no-status-but-CC-holding coworker) and I'm curious to see if that changes at all for once I get to 1K...
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Old Nov 3, 2015, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
So there's definitely better saver inventory for Plat (which matches my no-status-but-CC-holding coworker) and I'm curious to see if that changes at all for once I get to 1K...
I don't think the availability increases between status levels. As a 1K I do see more space available than a non-status customer, but that extra availability is the same whether you're Plat or 1K.

Per United's website:
Premier members have unrestricted access to United Standard Awards when redeeming miles to book award travel on United- and United Express®-operated flights. If there's a United seat for sale, these members can get it with award miles, guaranteed, even if it's the last seat on the airplane.

Premier members also have better access to Saver Awards in United Economy®. Additionally, Premier Platinum and Premier 1K® members have better access to Saver Awards in United Business®, United BusinessFirst®, and United First® on two-cabin aircraft. To get the best award search results, Premier members should sign in to united.com with their MileagePlus number and PIN when searching for travel awards.
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Old Nov 3, 2015, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by NDN
No, it is actually TRUE. My coworker is a 1k. He logs in and gets more award availability for business saver than I do.
Honestly, I find awards of all kinds easier when I log in vs. when I don't.

I recently booked a Y ticket for someone and when I wasn't logged in there was no availability, but when I logged in (as a 1K) I found some. I know that's not supposed to be true, but sometimes it is.
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Old Nov 3, 2015, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by SFO 1K
I don't think the availability increases between status levels. As a 1K I do see more space available than a non-status customer, but that extra availability is the same whether you're Plat or 1K.

Per United's website:
Premier members have unrestricted access to United Standard Awards when redeeming miles to book award travel on United- and United Express®-operated flights. If there's a United seat for sale, these members can get it with award miles, guaranteed, even if it's the last seat on the airplane.

Premier members also have better access to Saver Awards in United Economy®. Additionally, Premier Platinum and Premier 1K® members have better access to Saver Awards in United Business®, United BusinessFirst®, and United First® on two-cabin aircraft. To get the best award search results, Premier members should sign in to united.com with their MileagePlus number and PIN when searching for travel awards.
You can see the difference if you're logged in to Expert Mode regardless of your status level. Any premier status (or having the CC) allows saver economy awards to book into XN instead of X, and being Platinum or higher allows business or 2-cabin F awards to book into IN instead of I. There is no status advantage to booking saver 3-cabin first (inventory class O).

I think some of the snark about the Plat benefit is that it's pretty rare to see a flight be IN1 I0. I definitely see open inventories with XN9 X0 much more often.

United fare (inventory) classes
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Old Nov 4, 2015, 5:56 am
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There are many more options at higher status levels.

But, many of them are not good in my opinion.

A normal 17-18 hour flight for me and the additional offerings are 25, 35, even 40 hour + flight routes. Many pages of additional flights that I think most people would have no interest in.
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Old Nov 4, 2015, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by Asiatraveler15
There are many more options at higher status levels.

But, many of them are not good in my opinion.

A normal 17-18 hour flight for me and the additional offerings are 25, 35, even 40 hour + flight routes. Many pages of additional flights that I think most people would have no interest in.
Well. That's only because more individual segments become available and when you look at the permutations of the additional segments it ends up being a lot more options. They're not throwing you schlock out of spite.

But often I get one or two good ones in the mix. And sometimes I get an option where nothing existed before logging in.
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Old Nov 4, 2015, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
We (well, I) shall find out in the next couple weeks... I'm hoping it's true.

Right now I'm a plat, will be a 1K by the Thanksgiving. Taking my girlfriend to Australia for our anniversary [and likely a proposal] in March. Have BF Saver for the trip over. Currently in Econ Saver (waitlisted for BF Saver) on the trip back.

Not logged in there's 0 saver economy or premium from SYD or MEL the week we need to come back. Logged in as a plat, there's saver economy two days that week from SYD (Tuesday and Thursday, IIRC) but no saver anything from MEL or premium from SYD until the middle of April.

So there's definitely better saver inventory for Plat (which matches my no-status-but-CC-holding coworker) and I'm curious to see if that changes at all for once I get to 1K...
This information is well documented all over the forums. There are specific fare codes for 1k availability and a different set for CC/Silver+ availability
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Old Nov 4, 2015, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by NDN
This information is well documented all over the forums. There are specific fare codes for 1k availability and a different set for CC/Silver+ availability
I can't believe people are debating this issue (with most getting it wrong).

There are two "elite" saver award classes: XN, which is available to all elites plus credit card holders, and IN, which is available to Plats and higher.

XN is substantially more available than X. IN is very rarely higher than I, and when it is, it's usually by just a single seat.

So the "enhanced" availability for Plats and higher is pretty much meaningless.
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Old Nov 4, 2015, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
So the "enhanced" availability for Plats and higher is pretty much meaningless.
Thank you. I'm a touch surprised that it took so long as well.
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