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Revenue buckets (RDM/PQM earnings)
F - Full Fare First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
A - Discount First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
J - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
C - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
D - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
Z - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%) (Also see below)
P - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
Y - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
B - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
M - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
E - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
U - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
H - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Q - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
V - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
W -Discount Coach (100%/100%)
S - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
T - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
L - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
K - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
G - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
N - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)

Saver Award Seats
O - Saver 3-cabin First Award
IN - Elite (Plat/1K/GS) Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
I - Non-Elite and Low Elite Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
XN - Elite Saver Coach Award
X - Non-Elite Saver Coach Award

Standard Award Seats
FN - Standard 3-cabin First Award
JN - Elite/CC Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award
ZN - Non-Elite Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award (tracks to the Z bucket)
YN - Elite/CC Standard Coach Award
HN - Non-Elite Standard Coach Award (tracks to the H bucket)

Upgrade Awards
ON - C to F on 3-cabin aircraft
JN - Y-Up for Elites (tracks to the J bucket; i.e. last seat availability) no mas
PN - Y/B/M-Up for Elites (tracks close to the P bucket); All GS upgrades Y->C (CPU, RPU, GPU, miles)
R - Upgrade to Business/Domestic F (except GS)
RN - This has recently been reported to be internal-use only, not elite upgrades. The reality of that report is not yet clear.
Points earning for all upgrades is based on the original purchased fare. Also see below.

Upgrades Note that upgraded flights will post to your MileagePlus statement as Z(X) where the second letter (X) is the original booking class. That letter defines the earning rate for the flight as points are earned based on the original booking class.

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Old Oct 18, 11, 5:32 pm   #1
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Decoding the alphabet soup - New fare buckets for UA

This data will eventually be included in the new FAQ but while waiting for that to be guilt I figured I'd share the details. These are all the fares in the new scheme:

Revenue buckets (RDM/PQM earnings)
F - Full Fare First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
A - Discount First (250%/150% or 175%/150% for 3/2 cabin)
J - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
C - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
D - Full Fare Business (175%/150%)
Z - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
P - Deep Discount Business (150%/150%)
Y - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
B - Full Fare Coach (125%/150%)
M - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
E - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
U - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
H - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
Q - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
V - Discount Coach (100%/100%)
W - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
S - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
T - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
L - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
K - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
G - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)
N - Deep Discount Coach (100%/100%)

Saver Award Seats
O - Saver 3-cabin First Award
IN - Elite (Plat/1K/GS) Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
I - Non-Elite and Low Elite Saver Business or 2-cabin First Award
XN - Elite Saver Coach Award
X - Non-Elite Saver Coach Award

Standard Award Seats
FN - Standard 3-cabin First Award
JN - Elite/CC Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award
ZN - Non-Elite Standard Business or 2-cabin First Award (tracks to the Z bucket)
YN - Elite/CC Standard Coach Award
HN - Non-Elite Standard Coach Award (tracks to the H bucket)

Upgrade Awards
ON - C->F on 3-cabin aircraft
JN - Y-Up for Elites (tracks to the J bucket, i.e. last seat availability)
PN - B/M-Up for Elites (tracks to the P bucket); All GS upgrades Y->C (CPU, RPU, GPU, miles)
R - Upgrade to Business/Domestic F (except GS)
RN - This has recently been reported to be internal-use only, not elite upgrades. The reality of that report is not yet clear.

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Old Oct 18, 11, 7:26 pm   #2
 
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As always, many thanks sbm12.

I looked at a few (actually, many) CO flights during 2011~2012 and couldn't any difference in the number of seats allocated to the non-elite vs elite buckets for prem class travel, either free or award. i.e.,

ON = O avail
IN = I avail
RN = R avail

Hope that they actually do allocate more seats to the xN buckets. (Am assuming that the xN buckets are actually sub-buckets (ie, if a 1k pax books into an xN bucket, then both the xN and the x bucket decreases by one).
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Old Oct 18, 11, 7:47 pm   #3
 
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Great to know, thank you!

One thing I found interesting is the fact that there is now RN (for elite upgrades) in addition to R for upgrade availability. Does this mean that instead of zeroing out R inventory at the EUA run, CO will simply allocate EUA space in RN?

It is interesting because non-elites could potentially mileage upgrade while elites were waiting for EUAs at their respective windows.
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Old Oct 18, 11, 7:53 pm   #4
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I looked at a few (actually, many) CO flights during 2011~2012 and couldn't any difference in the number of seats allocated to the non-elite vs elite buckets for prem class travel, either free or award. i.e.,
I've seen the elite inventory higher in many cases and the same in many others. No guarantees, to be sure. But I've definitely had instances where being elite got me seats that otherwise would have not been available.

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Am assuming that the xN buckets are actually sub-buckets
Sortof...O is a subset of ON, for example, not the other way around, if they're doing it right.
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It is interesting because non-elites could potentially mileage upgrade while elites were waiting for EUAs at their respective windows.
They already give folks using miles or other instruments priority over EUA on the CO side and the new program will have that same policy for the CPU process. I'm not so sure that this is a real issue to worry about.
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Old Oct 18, 11, 8:02 pm   #5
 
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They already give folks using miles or other instruments priority over EUA on the CO side and the new program will have that same policy for the CPU process. I'm not so sure that this is a real issue to worry about.
Not exactly the same. Currently instruments trump the EUA for a PP while in the future a GS will trump. Otherwise correct though.
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Old Oct 18, 11, 8:55 pm   #6
 
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Other than the Revenue Buckets, I see all the award seats are coded differently than UA Codes (NF, NY, XF, XY). Since we will be using CO SHARES by March 2012, we will have to re-learn the codes.
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Old Oct 18, 11, 9:58 pm   #7
 
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Old Oct 19, 11, 12:41 am   #8
 
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Old Oct 19, 11, 1:38 pm   #9
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Thanks sbm12! A couple points of clarification.

Isn't "D" actually discounted business class? Or did that change recently?

Also, so "ON" is SaverPass F award AND C --> F upgrade space? So there is no distinction between the two?
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Old Oct 22, 11, 1:13 pm   #10
 
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Any idea why CO has a PN bucket on int'l long-haul (ie, not eligible for comp elite upgrade) flights? Thought this was used solely for comp elite UPGs in eligible markets?
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Outstanding chart! Thanks a million. This really helps a lot.

Will be interesting to see how the fare buckets pan out on the routes in 2012.
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Old Oct 22, 11, 3:34 pm   #12
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Why are the awards listed in OPass parlance? In 60 days it's a dead program - what are the codes in United Mileage Plus parlance?
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So as I understand it, NF, NC, NY
is gone?
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Also, so "ON" is SaverPass F award AND C --> F upgrade space? So there is no distinction between the two?
The same inventory bucket will be used for both.
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Why are the awards listed in OPass parlance? In 60 days it's a dead program - what are the codes in United Mileage Plus parlance?
They are listed in a phrasing that is easy to understand. It might be different names next year and it might not but the concept is the same. The fare buckets above are what will happen for the new program.
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So as I understand it, NF, NC, NY
is gone?
In the new scheme, yes.
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Old Oct 23, 11, 9:52 am   #15
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For purpose of awards from other FFPs, will domestic first be designated I like PMCO or O like PMUA?

Right now, you cannot book AC/BD awards on UA for business mileage, because they book into O, wheras CO domestic books into I
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