Sep 23, 2014, 1:10 pm
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This thread is for the pmCO version of 777-200. The pmCO planes are generally used out of the former Continental hubs, Houston and Newark, for various international destinations served from those airports.
There is a separate thread on the pmUA 777 here: Version 2
If you are looking for information about the new 777-200 with Polaris configuration, that is available here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1907390-777-200-version-5-polaris-77j-seating-experience.html
Because the seating configuration is different on the UA version of the 777, advice about the "best" seats on those is basically useless with respect to the pmCO version.
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on the pmCO version.
Information from United (the pmCO plane is called "Version32")
Information from Seat Guru.
The pmCO 777 is a two-class configuration.
There are 50 Business First seats in a 2-2-2 configuration. Seats are slightly angled, towards the windows for both window pairs, and angled to the right for the center pair. The seats are in 2 cabins, one in front of the 2L/2R doors typically used for boarding (26 seats) and one behind (24 seats). The seats are lie flat, and all face forward (although angled).
There are 63 Economy Plus seats, at the front of the economy cabin (Rows 16-22) plus the 3L/3R exit row (row 31/32). The remaining 154 seats are standard economy seats. The Economy configuration is 3-3-3, except for Row 44 which has only two seats on the two window groups.
BusinessFirst Seats
Best seats
Bulkhead Rows
Each BusinessFirst seat has a footwell that is built into the back of the seat in front of it. This allows the passenger to have a "full length" bed for sleeping. Many people report that this footwell is rather narrow and cramped, and can make sleeping difficult.
Row 1 (D/E and K/L), Row 2 (A/B) and Row 8 have larger footwells because the well is built into the bulkhead rather than the seat in front of it. As a result, there is no need to narrow the footwell to accommodate the reclining mechanism in the forward seat.
Bassinet available for 8AB, 8KL
Center section seats
The pair of seats in the center section both have direct aisle access, so there is no need to climb over another passenger, nor is there any need for the pairmate to climb over you.
Worst seats
1D/1E
1D is immediately adjacent to the front lavatory (and 1E a bit further away), creating disturbance and other annoyances from sitting next to a lavatory.
Economy Seats
Row 16 (bulkhead)
The bulkhead row has additional legroom. However, the tray tables and AVOD in the armrest narrow the seat width. These rows also allow bassinets (16DEF, 31DEF)
Row 32 (exit row)
Exit row has additional legroom but is next to the lavatories. The open space and lavs leads to congregation of standing passengers.
There is a separate thread on the pmUA 777 here: Version 2
If you are looking for information about the new 777-200 with Polaris configuration, that is available here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1907390-777-200-version-5-polaris-77j-seating-experience.html
Because the seating configuration is different on the UA version of the 777, advice about the "best" seats on those is basically useless with respect to the pmCO version.
How can you tell from seat map which version you're on? Look at the seat map image below - if it's this, you're on the pmCO version.
Information from United (the pmCO plane is called "Version
Information from Seat Guru.
The pmCO 777 is a two-class configuration.
There are 50 Business First seats in a 2-2-2 configuration. Seats are slightly angled, towards the windows for both window pairs, and angled to the right for the center pair. The seats are in 2 cabins, one in front of the 2L/2R doors typically used for boarding (26 seats) and one behind (24 seats). The seats are lie flat, and all face forward (although angled).
There are 63 Economy Plus seats, at the front of the economy cabin (Rows 16-22) plus the 3L/3R exit row (row 31/32). The remaining 154 seats are standard economy seats. The Economy configuration is 3-3-3, except for Row 44 which has only two seats on the two window groups.
BusinessFirst Seats
Best seats
Bulkhead Rows
Each BusinessFirst seat has a footwell that is built into the back of the seat in front of it. This allows the passenger to have a "full length" bed for sleeping. Many people report that this footwell is rather narrow and cramped, and can make sleeping difficult.
Row 1 (D/E and K/L), Row 2 (A/B) and Row 8 have larger footwells because the well is built into the bulkhead rather than the seat in front of it. As a result, there is no need to narrow the footwell to accommodate the reclining mechanism in the forward seat.
Bassinet available for 8AB, 8KL
Center section seats
The pair of seats in the center section both have direct aisle access, so there is no need to climb over another passenger, nor is there any need for the pairmate to climb over you.
Worst seats
1D/1E
1D is immediately adjacent to the front lavatory (and 1E a bit further away), creating disturbance and other annoyances from sitting next to a lavatory.
Economy Seats
Row 16 (bulkhead)
The bulkhead row has additional legroom. However, the tray tables and AVOD in the armrest narrow the seat width. These rows also allow bassinets (16DEF, 31DEF)
Row 32 (exit row)
Exit row has additional legroom but is next to the lavatories. The open space and lavs leads to congregation of standing passengers.
Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a pmCO 777 (ver 2: 2-class 50BF)
Aug 1, 2014, 8:28 am
#91
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Thanks so much. Does the bulkhead row have Power outlets?
Aug 1, 2014, 8:33 am
#92
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It does. And they even work sometimes! The two green lights visible in this pic: http://rkkwan.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v21/p591493060-5.jpg, are the power outlets, FYI.
Aug 1, 2014, 8:35 am
#93
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Thanks. Im going with 16L then.
Does this flight normally go out full? Its over half empty now 26 days out.
Does this flight normally go out full? Its over half empty now 26 days out.
Aug 1, 2014, 8:37 am
#94
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Which flight are you on? There are, through at least Sept., 2 daily 777 IAH-NRT flights. After (apx) Oct 1, this route goes to ~10x/week for the winter, with the UA1 (9a IAH departure) operated by a 787. Lots of ink spent on FT about this, search for "second IAH-NRT" or "UA1".
Aug 1, 2014, 8:41 am
#95
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Im on UA 7 from Iah - NRT on 27 August Ive only flown this route in C before and it was always full. This Time Im in Y and its empty.
Oops. I meant 26 August.
The reason i ask about the load is bc if i choose 17L and the row is empty the arm rest retract. But maybe its too risky to think the flight Will be that empty and I should just book 16L now...
Oops. I meant 26 August.
The reason i ask about the load is bc if i choose 17L and the row is empty the arm rest retract. But maybe its too risky to think the flight Will be that empty and I should just book 16L now...
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Aug 1, 2014, 9:30 am
#96
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego
Programs: Star, Oneworld, Skymiles, SPG
Posts: 243
I don't know if it is normally full, but I do know that the last week of August fares drop about $500 to Asia RT compared to the rest of August. Wish I did not have to go back to work that week!
Aug 1, 2014, 9:36 am
#97
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Im on UA 7 from Iah - NRT on 27 August Ive only flown this route in C before and it was always full. This Time Im in Y and its empty.
Oops. I meant 26 August.
The reason i ask about the load is bc if i choose 17L and the row is empty the arm rest retract. But maybe its too risky to think the flight Will be that empty and I should just book 16L now...
Oops. I meant 26 August.
The reason i ask about the load is bc if i choose 17L and the row is empty the arm rest retract. But maybe its too risky to think the flight Will be that empty and I should just book 16L now...
In planning for my trip, I have forgone most social interactions and have obsessively watched loads on the IAH-NRT flights for the past few months. My impression is that these flights seem to infrequently go out as empty as they look a month in advance, but that there are a number of fairly empty sailings from time to time. I have in fact seen a few of these flights go out with just 1 of 3 seats occupied in a row 16 or 17.
My strategy for these situations (just a data point for you), is to book my preference based on the "worst-case" scenario. I do this with domestic flights - I book a bulkhead window (my preference on a full flight) and then at the airport move to the exit row window if the entire exit row is open and my girlfriend and I can share the empty middle. I'm doing that on UA1 in September: we have row 16 window/isle and if the flight stays as empty as it looks now, I'll move her to row 17 or a nearby empty row (hopefully, a moot point as our upgrade will clear).
Aug 1, 2014, 9:37 am
#98
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Thanks so much for the info. So, UA 1 id changing to a 787, is UA 7 staying 777?
Thanks Again for the imput! Do, ill book 16L and then if row 17 is Still empty Ill move There so I can retract the arm rest and sleep!
Thanks Again for the imput! Do, ill book 16L and then if row 17 is Still empty Ill move There so I can retract the arm rest and sleep!
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Aug 1, 2014, 9:44 am
#99
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-iah-nrt.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...y-trouble.html
Last edited by NgatesSEA; Aug 1, 2014 at 9:55 am
Aug 1, 2014, 11:41 am
#100
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Hi Again ! I just paid for Y+ seat 16L. On the receipt it said seat 16 L (limited recline) 123 dollars. Nothing else I read said this seat had limited recline and that it would have 6inches of recline vs 5inches in normal Y. Can anyone confirm this, please!
Finally, last question! In row 16 JKL will There be one Power port for each seat or only 2 for the row of 3? Are There USB ports or only Power?
Again, thanks for all of your help!!
Finally, last question! In row 16 JKL will There be one Power port for each seat or only 2 for the row of 3? Are There USB ports or only Power?
Again, thanks for all of your help!!
Aug 1, 2014, 12:00 pm
#101
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
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Hi Again ! I just paid for Y+ seat 16L. On the receipt it said seat 16 L (limited recline) 123 dollars. Nothing else I read said this seat had limited recline and that it would have 6inches of recline vs 5inches in normal Y. Can anyone confirm this, please!
Finally, last question! In row 16 JKL will There be one Power port for each seat or only 2 for the row of 3? Are There USB ports or only Power?
Again, thanks for all of your help!!
Finally, last question! In row 16 JKL will There be one Power port for each seat or only 2 for the row of 3? Are There USB ports or only Power?
Again, thanks for all of your help!!
On a pmCO 777, row 16 has full recline. I don't believe that any of the pmUA three-class 777s have a row 16.
E+ rows have 2 power ports for every three seats (see, e.g., the two green lights in that pic).
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Aug 1, 2014, 3:00 pm
#102
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Yes, I think the thread was moved... Im on a PMCO aircraft!
Thanks for all of your help.
Do you have any idea what the actual pitch is for row 16? Im guessing between 35 and 40 ?!
Thanks for all of your help.
Do you have any idea what the actual pitch is for row 16? Im guessing between 35 and 40 ?!
Aug 1, 2014, 3:12 pm
#103
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
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Pitch is not a measure that can be calculated for an individual row. Pitch is not legroom.
Aug 1, 2014, 3:16 pm
#104
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 168
Seat Pitch: The measure of legroom that refers to the space between a point on one seat and the same point on the seat in front of it.
Normally, seat pitch is calculated from seat back to seat back, correct? therefore, I'm curious to know the measurement of row 16, seat back to bulkhead wall.
Normally, seat pitch is calculated from seat back to seat back, correct? therefore, I'm curious to know the measurement of row 16, seat back to bulkhead wall.
Aug 1, 2014, 3:39 pm
#105
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
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The measure you seek, alas, is not pitch, nor do I think it's that useful.