CLE to IAH equipment downgrade and fewer flights
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CLE to IAH equipment downgrade and fewer flights
Flying CLE-IAH on 1/7 & 1/14; probably 1/21 too.
Noticed that there are fewer flights CLE to IAH. Only 5.
And oh by the way, where did all the Boeing 737-800's go?
On 1/7; 1 of 5 is on 800; all others on airbus.
Seems united has pilfered the good equipment from this lane and stuck us with their outdated airbus
IMO, CLE passengers not feeling any love from united
Noticed that there are fewer flights CLE to IAH. Only 5.
And oh by the way, where did all the Boeing 737-800's go?
On 1/7; 1 of 5 is on 800; all others on airbus.
Seems united has pilfered the good equipment from this lane and stuck us with their outdated airbus
IMO, CLE passengers not feeling any love from united
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You are seeing alot of Airbuses at CLE on many routes, EWR and IAH. I notice alot more 737's going through ORD and DEN. Some of the CLE based FA's are not thrilled becuase they are loosing the opportunity to fly to some destinations. TPA, PHX, LAX, LAS, and SFO, even FLL and MCO.
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an interesting thing i have noticed is that there is more and more pmUA equipment/crews on pmCO legacy routes, and more and more pmCO equipment/crews on pmUA legacy routes. i would like to believe this has to do with SMI/J trying to mix up the two corporate cultures more, by circulating legacy crews to unfamiliar hubs and routes, but that would be too optimistic of an assumption on my part i believe.
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an interesting thing i have noticed is that there is more and more pmUA equipment/crews on pmCO legacy routes, and more and more pmCO equipment/crews on pmUA legacy routes. i would like to believe this has to do with SMI/J trying to mix up the two corporate cultures more, by circulating legacy crews to unfamiliar hubs and routes, but that would be too optimistic of an assumption on my part i believe.
I would think the reason would have more to do with best possible utilization of resources (i.e., capacity) now that they're operating together. This synergy is a big part of why mergers happen in the first place, and it's not altogether bad--unless you're stuck with the short straw
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Flying CLE-IAH on 1/7 & 1/14; probably 1/21 too.
Noticed that there are fewer flights CLE to IAH. Only 5.
And oh by the way, where did all the Boeing 737-800's go?
On 1/7; 1 of 5 is on 800; all others on airbus.
Seems united has pilfered the good equipment from this lane and stuck us with their outdated airbus
IMO, CLE passengers not feeling any love from united
Noticed that there are fewer flights CLE to IAH. Only 5.
And oh by the way, where did all the Boeing 737-800's go?
On 1/7; 1 of 5 is on 800; all others on airbus.
Seems united has pilfered the good equipment from this lane and stuck us with their outdated airbus
IMO, CLE passengers not feeling any love from united
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OTOH, it sucks to be stuck in the back with no IFE (I will NOT pay for DirecTV).
And most all of the 735s have been retired, so that leaves much newer 73G, 738, 739 and 739ER
And I'm sure I'll offend some, but I for one can't tell the difference in the width of the seats. Just glad PMCO birds now have E+
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It's subtle and not material to skinny twerps like me. What makes the difference is padding/ergonomics (in both cabins, but especially in Y). Would I rather be in Airbus Y instead of sCO Boeing F? Of course not, but it really hurts the B in BIS when the upgrade fails on the latter.
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Next flight on the DreamLiner, and while it didn't bother me, that seat was quite a bit narrower And I was quite lucky, as I believe seat B next to me was the only free on on the whole plane, otherwise I may have found out about the touching shoulders others have complained about.
But back OT, my own self has a much greater chance for u/g on 738 than an A320. Or 73G than an A319 @:-)
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i swear that I had read here that the Airbii are being moved to IAH and the 37's are being moved to DEN. This could explain seeing more A319/20 going CLE-IAH than before.
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I get the feeling that airframe utility optimization is a lot more complicated than most of us realize. Obviously the Airbii can operate out of DEN just fine (F9 invested in a 100% Airbus fleet specifically for DEN), but if the 737 can use 1% less fuel or carry a couple tons extra cargo, that could make a significant difference to the bottom line. Witness the 744s on the SYD routes, where they appear to be unnecessary (777 can fly the route, and the 744s rarely go out full)... except that the 744s are lifting a LOT more freight.
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Just be happy you're flying mainline
Call it what you will, I like my chances for u/g a lot better on 738 than A320
It's putting equipment where it meets the need @:-)
An FA told me that sUA and sCO are sharing a base at IAH, so there is mixing there. She even traded a sCO scarf, so apparently there is some goodwill
Again, for the most part, you can have your Airbii in coach, while I tend to have much better success clearing u/g on 737/8/9
OTOH, it sucks to be stuck in the back with no IFE (I will NOT pay for DirecTV).
And most all of the 735s have been retired, so that leaves much newer 73G, 738, 739 and 739ER
And I'm sure I'll offend some, but I for one can't tell the difference in the width of the seats. Just glad PMCO birds now have E+
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Call it what you will, I like my chances for u/g a lot better on 738 than A320
It's putting equipment where it meets the need @:-)
An FA told me that sUA and sCO are sharing a base at IAH, so there is mixing there. She even traded a sCO scarf, so apparently there is some goodwill
Again, for the most part, you can have your Airbii in coach, while I tend to have much better success clearing u/g on 737/8/9
OTOH, it sucks to be stuck in the back with no IFE (I will NOT pay for DirecTV).
And most all of the 735s have been retired, so that leaves much newer 73G, 738, 739 and 739ER
And I'm sure I'll offend some, but I for one can't tell the difference in the width of the seats. Just glad PMCO birds now have E+
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You are seeing alot of Airbuses at CLE on many routes, EWR and IAH. I notice alot more 737's going through ORD and DEN. Some of the CLE based FA's are not thrilled becuase they are loosing the opportunity to fly to some destinations. TPA, PHX, LAX, LAS, and SFO, even FLL and MCO.
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And yes, I think many of us remember that legacy FAs fly with legacy airframes, but a good reminder for those that don't.
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