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cmhua777 Sep 7, 2012 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by sfonorth (Post 19274198)
I use the expert mode with every single flight I book. I won't book an international flight unless I know there is R availability. This will drive away the elite customers into the other airlines.

Agree 100%.

I am baffled at how many short-sighted decisions UA has made since 3/3. Everything is about today with no regard for tomorrow. How many times will UA shoot itself in the foot?

goalie Sep 7, 2012 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by cmhua777 (Post 19274259)
Agree 100%.

I am baffled at how many short-sighted decisions UA has made since 3/3. Everything is about today with no regard for tomorrow. How many times will UA shoot itself in the foot?

We'll never know as they also turned off the feature for us to see how many feet they have ;)

halls120 Sep 7, 2012 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by UA Insider (Post 19272966)
That said, we have great appreciation for the transparency this information offered. For example, having a better understanding of how full a flight is, along with knowing how many other customers want to upgrade on a flight, can be critical in deciding whether to pay to guarantee a seat immediately, use mileage to upgrade, hold out to see if a space-available upgrade will clear or select another flight all together. We are committed to improving transparency around this. But, instead of simply exposing fare class inventory (which is quite confusing to most customers), we are working on better ways to share this more meaningful information. You’ll see one new feature added with this release and even more changes that work toward this effort in future releases.

While I'm not defending this move, I think I understand it.

IIRC, back before 3/3, the fare bucket information available on *.bomb was only useful when you searched for award travel. Using the expert mode, you could then see which flights were most promising for an upgrade using instruments or miles/co-pay, and even then, it wasn't as detailed as what the post 3/3 site offered.

When we were moved to this site, I was frankly amazed at how transparent CO was when it came to award and upgrade availability. I loaded sbm12's greasemonkey script, and was quite happy with how much easier it was to see which flight was upgradeable. That said, I kind of wondered why United was so transparent with this data.

IF some sort of site enhancement accompanies the turn-off of the bucket availability that does in fact allow us to decide whether to pay to guarantee a seat immediately, use mileage to upgrade, hold out to see if a space-available upgrade will clear or select another flight all together, this won't be that bad of a decision.

OTOH, if the process becomes completely opaque, then I agree that the value of the GPU/RPU becomes next to worthless.

UA-NYC Sep 7, 2012 7:10 pm

Delta had a good head start in decimating their loyalty program and making highly customer-unfriendly decisions - looks like UA is putting on the afterburners trying to catch up

accrue450 Sep 7, 2012 7:14 pm

Could we collectively come up with actions that all participate in to send UA a message that this is not ok? Maybe all sign a letter/email, all call customer service, etc.

kale73 Sep 7, 2012 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 19274278)
Delta had a good head start in decimating their loyalty program and making highly customer-unfriendly decisions - looks like UA is putting on the afterburners trying to catch up

More like afterburners on a lead balloon!

O how I wish I had a cartoonist's skills!

exerda Sep 7, 2012 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by accrue450 (Post 19274296)
Could we collectively come up with actions that all participate in to send UA a message that this is not ok? Maybe all sign a letter/email, all call customer service, etc.

Possibly, but unlike the good old days (when FT outrage seemed to be able to move UA back 95% of the way from an ill-conceived, boneheaded move), I don't think anyone at UA is receptive any longer. :(

SFO_FT Sep 7, 2012 7:20 pm

Has anyone called cust service and or reserv to determine what precisely we no longer will see? Would think that a long stream of calls to the cust service lines MIGHT have impact on their decision.

Renard Sep 7, 2012 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by accrue450 (Post 19274296)
Could we collectively come up with actions that all participate in to send UA a message that this is not ok? Maybe all sign a letter/email, all call customer service, etc.

Doing something like this would only be effective if they cared which is doubtful. Instead, just buy a ticket on the competition...an expensive one--preferably not in discounted fare classes--even better if it is international.... and send it to them, attributing it to this move. This is something that they Might listen to.

UnitedFlyGuy Sep 7, 2012 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 19274257)
Now a question-will non-revs still be able to see fare bucket availability? Obviously for them, that is what they need to see in order to gauge their travel and if yes, why would it be available for them and not us-or is the fare bucket availability being completely turned off thus screwing both loyal customers and the employees who make the airline run?

NRSA, etc. don't use far bucket availability to judge flights.

blueman2 Sep 7, 2012 7:22 pm

Just sent a note to GS
 
I just sent off an email to Global Services to let them know how disappointed I am with this decision. I ask that everyone send off a note to customer service as well (1Kvoice, etc).

njcommodore Sep 7, 2012 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by cfischer (Post 19273204)
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::td::td::td::td ::td::td:

What a terrible decision. Might be the last straw to move my business elsewhere.

Shannon, I can't believe the decision makers had you release a statement that is so absurd. I have been able to adapt to most of the changes since 3/3 but this is one that will seriously have me reconsider my choice of airline. I would rather drive out to JFK any day and fly AA. Wow.

Email to Jeff and 1Kvoice sent.

Air Houston Sep 7, 2012 7:29 pm

United - please reconsider. This change is terribly customer unfriendly.

At the minimum you should provide a way for us to see on the website if instrument-supported upgrade space is available for instant clearing. This type of information "puts the customer in control" which is a publicly stated objective for the new United according to the on-board welcome video.

Are you now stating that you want the customer to feel helpless and not in control of the travel experience? Will we be seeing a new video to reflect this change?

sfonorth Sep 7, 2012 7:29 pm

But, instead of simply exposing fare class inventory (which is quite confusing to most customers), we are working on better ways to share this more meaningful information. You’ll see one new feature added with this release and even more changes that work toward this effort in future releases.


So re-reading UA insider's release--not sure what Shannon means by "one new feature added" ? Wonder if this is a way to toggle on/off expert mode? But reading the rest of the release, I'm not overly optimistic.

inlanikai Sep 7, 2012 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by blueman2 (Post 19274320)
I just sent off an email to Global Services to let them know how disappointed I am with this decision. I ask that everyone send off a note to customer service as well (1Kvoice, etc).

Another idea is to call their res lines and ask if an upgrade and/or award is available for "this flight? What about this one? Or this one? Can I get an award on this date? What about in E+? Business? ...... Sorry to take up so much of your time but I used to be able to see this on your site."

The only thing they understand is cost and revenue. Tie up their res lines and it means more CS hours and potential loss of revenue as customers have a harder time getting through to book a tix.


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