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boognish24 Nov 26, 2014 10:11 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 23901402)
You need to check LH loads, not UA. LH upgrade inventory is opaque (unlike UA) so all you can do is guess based on how many F seats are available for sale. The closer to F8 the better.

got it - appreciate the reply that doesn't just state what I've done wrong, but where I need to look.

raehl311 Nov 26, 2014 2:13 pm

Ok, so I'm flying MSP-LAX-LAS. LAX-LAS cleared CPU and show CPU Requested on MSP-LAX. Inventory on MSP-LAX is R2.

But when I go to upgrade flights, both the miles and RPU/GPU options are greyed out. Can I not apply an RPU online if I've already CPU'd a segment?



On the way back, I'm LAS-LAX-MSP. There is availability LAS-LAX, but waitlist LAX-MSP. I assume if I apply the RPU now, I'll get upgraded LAS-LAX right away, but will still burn it even if I don't make LAX-MSP, correct?

Kacee Nov 26, 2014 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 23902810)
Ok, so I'm flying MSP-LAX-LAS. LAX-LAS cleared CPU and show CPU Requested on MSP-LAX. Inventory on MSP-LAX is R2.

But when I go to upgrade flights, both the miles and RPU/GPU options are greyed out. Can I not apply an RPU online if I've already CPU'd a segment?

Are you within T-24? Typically can't apply the instrument online within T-24, must call.


On the way back, I'm LAS-LAX-MSP. There is availability LAS-LAX, but waitlist LAX-MSP. I assume if I apply the RPU now, I'll get upgraded LAS-LAX right away, but will still burn it even if I don't make LAX-MSP, correct?
Yes, it will be burned.

raehl311 Nov 26, 2014 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 23902828)
Are you within T-24?

Nope, flight is Saturday. Actually cleared about 6 days in advance.

JohnMacWW Nov 26, 2014 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by raehl311 (Post 23902810)
....On the way back, I'm LAS-LAX-MSP. There is availability LAS-LAX, but waitlist LAX-MSP. I assume if I apply the RPU now, I'll get upgraded LAS-LAX right away, but will still burn it even if I don't make LAX-MSP, correct?


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 23902828)
Yes, it will be burned.

I think it is more accurate to say that you should assume it will be burned. I had an RPU returned to me, ostensibly because I only got upgraded on one leg. But the rule clearly is that you will burn it. I my case this was a bit frustrating as I was trying to burn the RPU.

Point is that you never know what might happen.

Kacee Nov 26, 2014 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by JohnMacWW (Post 23903076)
I think it is more accurate to say that you should assume it will be burned.

No that is not "more accurate." Getting the RPU back is both an error and a very rare exception.

The correct response is, "yes, your RPU will be burned."


Point is that you never know what might happen.
:rolleyes: The earth could also crash into the sun.

weero Nov 27, 2014 12:03 am


Originally Posted by boognish24 (Post 23900861)
..I don't see any 'R' - is there another cabin I should be looking at?..

The C=>F upgrade bucket on LH is called 'O'.

Even if it is zeroed, LH will take your certificate over any of its own elites to op-up as it is cash after all. I made nothing short of excellent experiences with this method with the exception of flights which were F1A0 .

PushingTin Nov 28, 2014 1:49 am

What is the best way to find R space (that is what I need for a GPU to clear at booking, right?) for UA flights. I have expert mode enabled to see the buckets but is there a way to search for R fares? The website won't let me search for them as a fare class. I'd rather not hunt and peck to find R fares.

Work is balking at biz seats. I worked my way up to 1K to get better chances and GPUs on overseas flights, but it ain't workin. Work says to take a day on either end to compensate for having to fly Y. I'd like to use that inherent flexibility to get higher hit rates on upgrades.

Would a travel agent be able to help with the search. I never feel like I'm in control when I work with them.

UA-NYC Nov 28, 2014 2:10 am


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 23909220)
I'd rather not hunt and peck to find R fares.

You unfortunately will have to hunt and peck

JohnMacWW Nov 28, 2014 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 23909220)
.....I'd rather not hunt and peck to find R fares.
....
Would a travel agent be able to help with the search[?] I never feel like I'm in control when I work with them.

Yep its hunt and peck. But I have never found a travel agent/ service that is willing to do that type of work because its not worth their time from a comp perspective. So mostly, I think the best way (and only way I am willing to do it) is to search for yourself.

weero Nov 28, 2014 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 23909255)
You unfortunately will have to hunt and peck

You can take a shot, as I l always have to do. A crapshot more recently though ..

kb1992 Nov 29, 2014 12:59 am


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 23887664)
They may be useless to you due to your schedule requirements, but many of us have a near 100% success rate over many years. I know we'll miss the GPUs when we start traveling again.


For us, they've been the difference between staying local and seeing many countries all around the world. We're spoiled and cannot imagine traveling across any ocean without them.


If you're flexible, you should be near 100%, so I really don't think you're as flexible as you think you are.

+1

I have burned almost 100 GPUs since I started to fly UA.

My success rate is 99% (only failed once ORD-HKG).

I had a backup plan when GPU failed. I booked a saver F award ORD-HKG and canceled the W ticket few hours before departure when C was full.

Can't travel across the Pacific without GPUs. I can handle TATL in E+ if it's from EWR or IAD.

tom911 Nov 29, 2014 10:05 am


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 23913277)
+1

I have burned almost 100 GPUs since I started to fly UA.

My success rate is 99% (only failed once ORD-HKG).

By chance, have you plotted out how much extra you had to pay among those 100 GPUs for an upgradable fare? Could it be in the tens of thousands of dollars?

PushingTin Nov 29, 2014 1:19 pm

I just hunt&pecked +/-3days for three TATL and TPAC trips I know I have to take next year from Feb thru May. No R on any flights.

Is the best way to look for R to find the leg that is most important and concentrate with that. The UA search engine gives truly goofy routings for lowest fares.

Once again, fare class is so important to UA that it drives everything and they give you horrible tools to try to manage it. Why I can't give it a route and then have it display R fares on a calender is truly amazing- let alone for other fares.

Global321 Nov 29, 2014 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by PushingTin (Post 23915257)
...

Is the best way to look for R to find the leg that is most important and concentrate with that. The UA search engine gives truly goofy routings for lowest fares. ...

Absolutely - pick the segment you need to get upgraded TATL or TPAC and then everything else is secondary.

Absolutely - plan on goofy routings to get it confirmed at booking! :)


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