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Okay, good to know. I guess this perk/benefit/reward isn't that valuable to me then.
Also - apologies for clogging the board with a new topic on this versus sticking it in the "specific questions" thread - I just figured it wasn't about a specific scenario. |
Originally Posted by StringerBellBivDeVoe
(Post 23880815)
Okay, good to know. I guess this perk/benefit/reward isn't that valuable to me then.
Also - apologies for clogging the board with a new topic on this versus sticking it in the "specific questions" thread - I just figured it wasn't about a specific scenario. |
It's a gamble.
My GPU upgrades have cleared 90%+ over the last few years. I typically pay an extra $1-300 USD each way for W+, but I get a lie flat seat 90%+ ($2-4000 in value) of the time. So it is a good deal compared to buying business, or using miles + copay. If you are looking at the bottom line, and don't consider business to be worth hundreds of dollars more on a long flight, you have to do a lot more work. 1) Look for mid-week, off-business times with available R (use expert mode on the UA website). If you buy a W+ with R > 0, you get a 100% upgrade, so it is not a gamble. 2) Save the GPUs for trips on higher demand days, or with shorter notice, so the extra cost of W+ is not too high. 3) Use them domestically, latin america, Caribbean, Hawaii, etc. Much easier to find R > 0, you jump the CPU queue, and there is no extra cost to using them. 4) If your GPU doesn't clear by T-24, look for a SDC (same day change) with either more unsold business (J/C/D/Z/P) or available R (often found within T-24). Changing to these flights will get you an upgrade (may need to call to cut the line when R > 0, see other threads) or increase your chances. |
Originally Posted by cfischer
(Post 23880806)
Excuse me but that is b.s. W-class is priced as W-class irrespective whether R is open or not.
W-class is anywhere from $200 to $1000 more on most routes than cheaptest coach; on some routes (BOS-SYD comes to mind) W-class might be the cheapest fare thus no upcharge. I often book tickets without being able to confirm R; so far so good; SDC is your friend. |
I always fly with my wife (who is also a 1k) and we have a 100% success rate applying our GPUs over the past few years. We only use them to secure lie-flat seats on TPAC and TATL flights.
I have found the spread between the lowest and W fare to be between $100 and $800 with the TPAC spread larger than the TATL spread. I have always waited until I was able to find R > 2 space before booking. Now I usually need to search multiple routings and be flexible with scheduling in order to find free R inventory. For example if we're flying to Asia, I check EWR/ORD/DEN/SFO/IAH (etc.) - NRT/ICN/HKG (etc.) looking for R space. If we're flying to Europe, I'm checking EWR/IAD/ORD - LHR/FRA/BRU/MUC etc. But so far at least, it has worked for us. |
You are not crazy
What others have said is valid but it is certainly getting harder every year to burn the GPU's.
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Originally Posted by xox
(Post 23881034)
I always fly with my wife (who is also a 1k) and we have a 100% success rate applying our GPUs over the past few years. We only use them to secure lie-flat seats on TPAC and TATL flights.
I have found the spread between the lowest and W fare to be between $100 and $800 with the TPAC spread larger than the TATL spread. I have always waited until I was able to find R > 2 space before booking. Now I usually need to search multiple routings and be flexible with scheduling in order to find free R inventory. For example if we're flying to Asia, I check EWR/ORD/DEN/SFO/IAH (etc.) - NRT/ICN/HKG (etc.) looking for R space. If we're flying to Europe, I'm checking EWR/IAD/ORD - LHR/FRA/BRU/MUC etc. But so far at least, it has worked for us. |
It is getting harder to burn GPUs. I have two left this year and may struggle to use before end of Jan 2015. It's hard to balance the cadence of usage too - you want to use them wisely but not get left with spares! I've missed 3 applications of GPU in the past month:
1. SFO - JFK p.s. (booked and applied GPUs for me and companion 3 weeks out with no R space but 10 biz seats open) 1st on list -24, 1 seat open, but no dice, lost to 'buy up' I guess. 2. EWR - NRT on W (booked and applied GPU for me 2 weeks out, no R space but 12 biz seats open) -24 showing space in biz, 2 seats, 2nd on list then lost out to a 'buy up' again I guess. 3. EWR - CDG sponsored non-member on Y (booked and applied GPU 3 days out, no R space and only 2 biz seats open) -24 no space in biz, 1st on list but no GPU clear. My advice is to apply GPUs liberally on long flights whether domestic or international and to not wait to use. It is getting tougher to guarantee their clearance. As an aside I am currently doing an AAA EXP challenge - with AA if you don't clear (which happened on a recent intercontinental flight) they recognize this and treat you really well in the economy cabin - free meals, movies, personal attention, etc. |
Originally Posted by JBord
(Post 23881171)
I'd probably be very frustrated if trying to use them for business travel when schedule trumps everything.
If necessary, we enjoy hanging out in Bangkok or Seoul or Singapore for a few days, and we'd rather pay the freight for several days at Raffles or Mandarin Oriental than to United for the 14 hour full fare experience. :) And my wife is completely flexible with schedule. |
When I'm flying TATL or TPAC it's either in paid J (for work) or on an award in J (for personal), so the "G" aspect of my GPUs doesn't help much. For my purposes they're really just more RPUs and I tend to use them for ps flights or other transcons.
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Originally Posted by UnitedFFinAsia
(Post 23881062)
What others have said is valid but it is certainly getting harder every year to burn the GPU's.
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I use my GPUs as RPUs on domestic flights. Mostly as gifts to friends and family, and sometimes for myself on the occasional TCON.
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As others have noted, booking flexibility and same-day changes are the key to success in using GPUs effectively.
Note that the W fare bucket or up only applies to intercontinental flights, not North America or Hawaii. Also note that Q and V buckets can actually price lower (in the $100 range) than W on some TPAC or TATL routings. I always search for Q,V,W fare buckets to see which provides the lowest fare . My preferred approach is to book one-way itineraries (where there isn't a price premium) to insulate same-day changes from messing up down-stream flight segments. |
I use them to confirm BF for MsHalls120 and I at time of purchase when going on TATL vacations. That burns 4, and the rest I use on business trips.
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Actually, there are several posts/threads re: GPUs.
Originally Posted by StringerBellBivDeVoe
(Post 23880815)
Also - apologies for clogging the board with a new topic on this versus sticking it in the "specific questions" thread - I just figured it wasn't about a specific scenario.
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