United: 4 toilets for 200+ economy passengers???
Jul 18, 2012, 9:27 am
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OP should be glad he wasn't on one of the new configuration 777s: the ratios are 54 or 55 economy pax per bathroom. To add insult to injury, the ratio was far more favorable in the old configuration - so basically UA remodeled its planes to make your economy bladder hurt while business and first class passengers dream away in lie-flat comfort.
Which is another reason why I haven't been in the back of a UA plane on an intercontinental trip in years.
Which is another reason why I haven't been in the back of a UA plane on an intercontinental trip in years.
Jul 18, 2012, 9:37 am
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Ok, I've read the whole thread (not long) and I just find the entire discussion hilarious. I'm curious about the male to female ratio of those responding. Why? Women are used to waiting in lines for bathrooms. You guys run into a bathroom in all kinds of venues, baseball games, arenas, movie theatres, etc etc and we wait, and wait and do the potty dance. Wow, waiting for 1 or 2 people in front of you - what a schande! Two weeks ago in the Museum D'Orsay I waited 15 minutes to use one of 4 bathrooms. Hubby and son in and out in minutes.
Sorry, entire thread is just funny.
Sorry, entire thread is just funny.
Jul 18, 2012, 9:45 am
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OP should be glad he wasn't on one of the new configuration 777s: the ratios are 54 or 55 economy pax per bathroom. To add insult to injury, the ratio was far more favorable in the old configuration - so basically UA remodeled its planes to make your economy bladder hurt while business and first class passengers dream away in lie-flat comfort.
Which is another reason why I haven't been in the back of a UA plane on an intercontinental trip in years.
Which is another reason why I haven't been in the back of a UA plane on an intercontinental trip in years.
I was on one flight when the single F lav was closed off to pax for the entirety of the flight except the first and last hour of the flight. The purser was as pissed off as the pax.
Jul 18, 2012, 10:00 am
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I do not believe that is accurate. There is a rule regarding FAs to the number of seats but that's the only one I'm aware of.
Jul 18, 2012, 10:28 am
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This entire thread pisses me off (Sorry -- couldn't resist!!! 
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I actually find that on the non-PS 757s, the FAs are very lax about prohibiting folks in economy from using the F lav behind the cockpit. On the very few occasions when I have seen a FA kick someone out of F, they have done so quietly.
As an aside, on a recent ORD-SFO flight, I was in 6A and because the F lav was in use, I decided to use the one between the F and Y cabins by the boarding door. As I entered, the guy in 7D said that the lav was for economy psgrs only. No one was waiting, so I ignored him. When I came out, he said, "I wasn't kidding." I didn't respond, which I think made him even more upset.
)I actually find that on the non-PS 757s, the FAs are very lax about prohibiting folks in economy from using the F lav behind the cockpit. On the very few occasions when I have seen a FA kick someone out of F, they have done so quietly.
As an aside, on a recent ORD-SFO flight, I was in 6A and because the F lav was in use, I decided to use the one between the F and Y cabins by the boarding door. As I entered, the guy in 7D said that the lav was for economy psgrs only. No one was waiting, so I ignored him. When I came out, he said, "I wasn't kidding." I didn't respond, which I think made him even more upset.
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Jul 18, 2012, 11:01 am
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)was for the minimum of one lav for every 40 passengers. The airline industry caught wind of this study and applied tremendous pressure on the FAA and Congress to quash the study and report...which the FAA did! When there was the CAB and the FAA, one agency was tasked with promoting aviation and the other with regulating it. Now we have one agency (FAA) responsible for both...can we say "conflict of interest"
As an aside, on a recent ORD-SFO flight, I was in 6A and because the F lav was in use, I decided to use the one between the F and Y cabins by the boarding door. As I entered, the guy in 7D said that the lav was for economy psgrs only. No one was waiting, so I ignored him. When I came out, he said, "I wasn't kidding." I didn't respond, which I think made him even more upset.
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Jul 18, 2012, 12:31 pm
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An indignant steward loudly refused passage! Asking for and being refused the use of a bathroom was a totally new and humiliating experience in my life - and it was on a plane that I paid a lot of money to ride on.
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Sorry United, your new business plan has cost you a long-time, loyal customer. I will travel on one of your many competitors who pride themselves on their service to all of their valued customers.
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Sorry United, your new business plan has cost you a long-time, loyal customer. I will travel on one of your many competitors who pride themselves on their service to all of their valued customers.
Welcome to the real world, bucko!
Jul 18, 2012, 1:03 pm
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Ok, I've read the whole thread (not long) and I just find the entire discussion hilarious. I'm curious about the male to female ratio of those responding. Why? Women are used to waiting in lines for bathrooms. You guys run into a bathroom in all kinds of venues, baseball games, arenas, movie theatres, etc etc and we wait, and wait and do the potty dance. Wow, waiting for 1 or 2 people in front of you - what a schande! Two weeks ago in the Museum D'Orsay I waited 15 minutes to use one of 4 bathrooms. Hubby and son in and out in minutes.
Male or female, not having enough bathrooms on a plane is truly a pain in the ...
Jul 18, 2012, 4:32 pm
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Jul 18, 2012, 6:12 pm
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Jul 25, 2012, 12:13 pm
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The principle differences between a tin can flying at 40,000 feet and the Musee D'Orsay are (1) All visitors to the Musee are not given a meal that traps them into their seats, and then released from said meal all at the same time, creating a massive rush on the bathrooms; (2) There are not First, Second and Third Class Bathrooms, with strict rules (and heated arguments) regarding whether one can use a Better Class of Bathroom; and (3) The museum director will not suddenly announce that everyone in line for the bathroom has to go sit down because of an imminent earthquake.
Male or female, not having enough bathrooms on a plane is truly a pain in the ...
Male or female, not having enough bathrooms on a plane is truly a pain in the ...
Jul 25, 2012, 1:03 pm
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Perhaps this is indelicate, but economy travel on United has become akin to youthful adventure travel. Their 767 has FOUR toilets to share among over 200 economy and economy plus passengers. On an overnight flight, in the second row of economy, I made the mistake of trying to pass the curtain to use the business class toilets, as access to mine were blocked by a cart. An indignant steward loudly refused passage! Asking for and being refused the use of a bathroom was a totally new and humiliating experience in my life - and it was on a plane that I paid a lot of money to ride on.
If United truly does not want to provide decent and civilized service to its economy passengers - who fill their planes - why not just stop accepting their business? After 20+ years of loyalty, and even with premier + status, I am so disturbed by this airline's dehumanizing treatment of economy passengers (inedible food, limited toilets, silly separate boarding carpets for different classes of passengers - all passing through the same door!!!) to continue to fly with them.
Sorry United, your new business plan has cost you a long-time, loyal customer. I will travel on one of your many competitors who pride themselves on their service to all of their valued customers.
If United truly does not want to provide decent and civilized service to its economy passengers - who fill their planes - why not just stop accepting their business? After 20+ years of loyalty, and even with premier + status, I am so disturbed by this airline's dehumanizing treatment of economy passengers (inedible food, limited toilets, silly separate boarding carpets for different classes of passengers - all passing through the same door!!!) to continue to fly with them.
Sorry United, your new business plan has cost you a long-time, loyal customer. I will travel on one of your many competitors who pride themselves on their service to all of their valued customers.
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