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-   -   March 3rd, 2012 System Integration Master Thread (PSS) (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1319984-march-3rd-2012-system-integration-master-thread-pss.html)

GoAmtrak Mar 5, 2012 10:25 pm

The system doesn't seem to recognize YTZ (Toronto City), which is served by AC.

dbross Mar 5, 2012 10:36 pm

Me too on reduced ORD-SFO miles and 2012 PMUA miles vanishing. I wonder if they're going back and retroactively applying the reduced miles to all of our 2012 flights?

demkr Mar 5, 2012 10:40 pm

Who knows what the heck is going on....and at this hour we're likely not going to know at a minimum until tomorrow morning.

I thought the migration was safe because it had already occurred. Now, the minute something posts post-migration, everything else goes away? Not good.

Sorry guys, I believe that United was unprepared for the migration. The hold times would not be occurring if it weren't for this (growing) list of problems.

malgudi Mar 5, 2012 10:40 pm

"Complimentary seat assignments are not available"
 
Complimentary seat assignments are not available

What does this mean? A (GM) friend is trying to book JFK-SFO and seeing these messages ... :confused:

bloxomo Mar 5, 2012 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by cardinal98 (Post 18142473)
I had this problem today. On the website the other person on my reservation disappeared. When we went to kiosk to get boarding passes, we weren't able to print for both of us in. When he tried to use the kiosk in independently, the kiosk wouldn't recognize him (but thought it was his wife, also on our flight). Ended up waiting in line to talk to an agent. Good luck to you.

2 hours and 5 minutes on the Premier line seems to have fixed this. Apparently my wife was still listed on my reservation but her ticket information had completely disappeared. The agent who fixed it said it was a fairly common problem but didn't offer any explanation of the conditions that would cause it. As a former software tester I'm curious about where the process broke.

Next problem: reservations that had unconfirmed schedule changes have now gone back to "ticketed and confirmed", including one of mine where the connecting flight leaves EWR 3 1/2 hours before I arrive (why did the system do this in the first place?).

uastarflyer Mar 5, 2012 10:52 pm

Status has changed since 3/3. And my EQM that were posted to my PMUA MP account are now gone, even though they were showing on 3/3.

Having good data get expunged is insane. What a dreck integration job. :td:

demkr Mar 5, 2012 10:57 pm

Sorry to say but I agree. I was patient for the first two days, but to have *mounting* problems afterwards seems to indicate that the integration was poorly and unprofessionally executed.

During the migration, my EQM and RDM from PMUA came over as expected. Now to have 65K PQM just randomly disappear as one flight is credited. Bizarre.

Also, the reduced mileage thing is what's really getting me. I would truly like an answer on this, and if it is a glitch, how to go about getting credited the proper PQM/RDM for the flight.

username Mar 5, 2012 11:14 pm

I spent some time balancing my miles on Quicken on Sunday. It seemed that my UA flight last Monday is included in the total transferred from MP but not listed as a transaction.

Friday's flight home has not posted yet. Maybe when it is, I will also see some of the zero outs others are reporting (right now, things look OK on my account.

As far as the reduce miles....Since we are on CO's system, CO's mileage measurement applies. I guess someone high up has to make a decision whether to switch to the older UA measurement or stay with the CO.

demkr Mar 5, 2012 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 18142988)
I spent some time balancing my miles on Quicken on Sunday. It seemed that my UA flight last Monday is included in the total transferred from MP but not listed as a transaction.

Friday's flight home has not posted yet. Maybe when it is, I will also see some of the zero outs others are reporting (right now, things look OK on my account.

As far as the reduce miles, I noticed this before the merger when I accidentally credited to CO instead of UA on one trip. Since we are on CO's system, CO's mileage measurement applies. I guess someone high up has to make a decision whether to switch to the older UA measurement or stay with the CO.

Again, people keep saying this, but it's just not the case.

On CO, SFO-HNL was *always* 2,398. Not 2,393 as I earned this week. ORD-SFO was *always* 1,846, not 1,839 that I earned this week.

Mileage for everything went down - CO's metrics were not different from UA's pre merger.

I am no fan of $misek and all of this, but you can't blame the PMCO systems for this -- this reduced mileage appeared on SHARES post-3/3, not before it.

username Mar 5, 2012 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by demkr (Post 18142996)
Again, people keep saying this, but it's just not the case.

On CO, SFO-HNL was *always* 2,398. Not 2,393 as I earned this week. ORD-SFO was *always* 1,846, not 1,839 that I earned this week.

Mileage for everything went down - CO's metrics were not different from UA's pre merger.

I am no fan of $misek and all of this, but you can't blame the PMCO systems for this -- this reduced mileage appeared on SHARES post-3/3, not before it.

I went back to my statement while you were typing up this post....I was incorrect - I had identical miles posted to CO and UA, at least for my city pairs. I edited my post within the Change timestamp limit so it does not show my posting was edited.

danville 1K Mar 5, 2012 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by demkr (Post 18141943)
I was not offered SDC or stand-by via check in either..But going through "manually" thru "Change Flights" I was able to for $0

I wanted to SDC to an earlier flight, but that particular flight would cost $691 to change, so no dice. Was unable to request regular standby during check in. After check decided I'd cancel the check in and go back and see if I'd missed something on my first go round. Oops, can't do that, there is no option for cancelling your check in.

Prior to the mass migration was it possible to 1) stand by for an earlier flight and 2) cancel your check in on line?

demkr Mar 5, 2012 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 18143019)
I went back to my statement while you were typing up this post....I was incorrect - I had identical miles posted to CO and UA, at least for my city pairs. I edited my post within the Change timestamp limit so it does not show my posting was edited.

I gotcha. Just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page. It's relatively easy since most of the negative "changes" came from the CO side ... I think this is just SHARES being SHARES.

If it's a glitch, which my hunch tells me it most likely is, I sure hope the fix to post the correct mileage (in both PQM and RDM) is automatic..

username Mar 5, 2012 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by demkr (Post 18143033)
I gotcha. Just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page. It's relatively easy since most of the negative "changes" came from the CO side ... I think this is just SHARES being SHARES.

If it's a glitch, which my hunch tells me it most likely is, I sure hope the fix to post the correct mileage (in both PQM and RDM) is automatic..

My understanding is that there is a table in the system for the city pairs. Unless someone changed the table on 3/3...you would think that would be the last thing they wanted to touch with all other changes.

See interesting thread here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...nt-change.html

demkr Mar 5, 2012 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by username (Post 18143046)
My understanding is that there is a table in the system for the city pairs. Unless someone changed the table on 3/3...you would think that would be the last thing they wanted to touch with all other changes.

See interesting thread here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...nt-change.html

Yeah. I think someone calculated it to an average of around a 0.3% deduction per city pair, so that does tell me it's got to be system related.

Even if UA were to make such a drastic change, they'd have a hard time explaining why everything was reduced by relatively the same amount percentage wise-or why they are choosing to make such a move.

I imagine we'll hear something about this very soon since miles have started posting, customers will notice the reduction

Howard Mar 5, 2012 11:37 pm


Originally Posted by demkr (Post 18142879)
I thought the migration was safe because it had already occurred. Now, the minute something posts post-migration, everything else goes away? Not good.

I noticed a similar problem. My PQM balance was correct post-migration except for a flight I took on 2/29, which hadn't posted pre-migration. Now that the 2/29 flight has posted, my PQM balance reflects only the 2/29 flight and not all the other UA flights I took this year. I'm not sure whether to wait and see if it gets fixed or whether I should call MP.


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