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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:04 pm
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Thanks. B/c when i call that one it still says "Premier line"
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by navi-c
what's the new 1k number?
same as the old number

Originally Posted by 537e4e4
For those of you that are Global Services with the old number, here is the "new" Global Services number: (xxx) xxx-xxxx...
best not to publicly publish elite phone numbers
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:30 pm
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I had two flights this week (res made well before 3/3) completely disappear from the reservation system...both had been successfully upgraded with regionals. After spending over six hours on the phone with the nicest but most useless agents I have ever talked to (and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that it was the transition to Shares that prevented them from helping me) I was forced to go to LAX w/o confirmation of a reservation, three hours early...it took two senior UA CSRs and a CO assistant nearly two hours to find me in the system...only to find that my seat had been given away and the flight was now oversold! Fortunately, I knew one of the UA agents (for over 30 years) and he took it upon himself to put me on a DL flight...in F no less...but it took three levels of approvals before it happened. As I left the desk to run to the DL flight, my UA "angel" whispered to me that the new system just does not allow them to do what they were able to in the past and that the new UA is "not" about customer service...and please write to corporate since they will listen to the customer!

My return from BOS was also a problem...my upgrade disappeared and the replacement E+ aisle seat (put in the system by the agents at LAX) was given away and even though I had my boarding pass with the correct seat, I was given the option of a E- center seat in the second to last row or not to fly...it was a miserable flight and even the BOB was sold out by the time the cart got to us!

I am not holding my breath that either flight will show up in my account...the moral of the story is that for at least the time being, we can not trust UA and its systems...and trust lost is something that is hard to earn back! The other thing I learned is that DL F product is quite good...much better than UA or CO and they seemed really happy to have me as a customer...I may be using them more often!


Originally Posted by ckaught78
I look forward to the future Harvard Business Review case study detailing how not to merge two systems.
It will never be Harvard since Jeff is an alum Seriously, the merger is already being looked at under the microscope...it is already being studied and taught at Wharton (per Mrs.1KPath who is a visiting prof there)...they are looking at the cultural differences of two organizations being merged and how these differences have an impact on the success of a merger...so far the academics are giving it a C- with the reasoning that the more "established" entity is having the culture of the "lesser" entity placed on it...resulting in the "disenfranchisement" and " "disillusion"of a greater number of employees and customers and the potential "diminution" of the more established branding. (Note...these are their "words", not mine!)
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by 1KPath
I had two flights this week (res made well before 3/3) completely disappear from the reservation system...both had been successfully upgraded with regionals. After spending over six hours on the phone with the nicest but most useless agents I have ever talked to (and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt that it was the transition to Shares that prevented them from helping me) I was forced to go to LAX w/o confirmation of a reservation, three hours early...it took two senior UA CSRs and a CO assistant nearly two hours to find me in the system...only to find that my seat had been given away and the flight was now oversold! Fortunately, I knew one of the UA agents (for over 30 years) and he took it upon himself to put me on a DL flight...in F no less...but it took three levels of approvals before it happened. As I left the desk to run to the DL flight, my UA "angel" whispered to me that the new system just does not allow them to do what they were able to in the past and that the new UA is "not" about customer service...and please write to corporate since they will listen to the customer!
This is basically my story from Monday and Tuesday. 11k miles flown. Irrops encountered. Multiple hours spent as 20-30 year Tulip-vets puzzled over their computers, all the while profusely apologizing for this gawd-awful system. It's not to say that things don't get done -- they do -- it just takes forever, and requires multiple levels of approval.

Anecodotally, has anyone noticed that COdbaUA imported PMCO supervisors into PMUA hubs? It's almost like $misek needed to send out his slickly-dressed minions to make sure that the Tulips fall into line and behave.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by domesticated
I have the opposite case. The PQM finally got updated correctly, but the lifetime miles look random.
Fun. A few days ago my PQS was fine, but PQM were missing. Now its the opposite. My PQM look about right, but PQS is off by a few flights. Hopefully things will level off once they route out the issues.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by 1KPath
It will never be Harvard since Jeff is an alum Seriously, the merger is already being looked at under the microscope...it is already being studied and taught at Wharton (per Mrs.1KPath who is a visiting prof there)...they are looking at the cultural differences of two organizations being merged and how these differences have an impact on the success of a merger...so far the academics are giving it a C- with the reasoning that the more "established" entity is having the culture of the "lesser" entity placed on it...resulting in the "disenfranchisement" and " "disillusion"of a greater number of employees and customers and the potential "diminution" of the more established branding. (Note...these are their "words", not mine!)
I think they were generous with the C-. Still it is somewhat comforting to know that what the PMUA members are generally feeling is also being confirmed by the academic community.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by demkr
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Thanks. B/c when i call that one it still says "Premier line"
1K number does answer as that but it goes into a different hunt group and is answered quicker.

UA Insider: Add this as another MINOR bug: 1K line is not reflecting that on answering the line
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by hobo13
Anecodotally, has anyone noticed that COdbaUA imported PMCO supervisors into PMUA hubs? It's almost like $misek needed to send out his slickly-dressed minions to make sure that the Tulips fall into line and behave.
Yes, two were assisting a DEN->SFO flight on 3/5 and it took both of them puzzling over the boarding screen to help the Tulip get an infant checked in.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by dalston
I now have 37,153PQM on 2 PQS. Those must have been quite the flights!

Seriously, isn't it worth taking a deep breath about this and speed of miles posting (unless you actively need the miles to book an award trip or cross a new elite threshold - the latter unlikely for most of us this early in the year). Clearly these are known issues and for those of us for whom it is not time critical don't we have the luxury of waiting a couple of weeks to give UA a chance to figure it out. The more we all hit the phone lines now the more jammed they get - and we will still be able to prove what we are owed in a few weeks time.
I have 3 PQS on 52K EQMs....must have also been quite some flights...so intense I can't even remember if planes can fly that long these days..)
sorry...have to find some humor in all of this
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 6:02 pm
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UA cancelled today's 5:40pm service ORD-SFO right at boarding time. A full 767.

Re-accomodation was not handled well. First the gate changed about 20 mins before boarding then it was cancelled. All elite members got was an email saying they'd been cancelled and to try to see someone or a machine (in the past there was usually an email containing details of the alternative accommodation). The 1K desk was unable to be reached in a timely way (10 min hold time).

As all remaining flights to SFO tonight immediately zeroed out (presumably not with me being re-accomodated as a 1k). I was able to find an agent to put me on AA and ran over to T3 for a 6:15pm flight which I made. That's actually a pretty good result for me but I am sure there are many folks spending the night in Chicago or with much less favorable alternatives.

The automatic notification system is not up to the previous UA system where you'd know something was up usually before the agents themselves as text messages echoed around the departure gate.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by aussieinsf


The automatic notification system is not up to the previous UA system where you'd know something was up usually before the agents themselves as text messages echoed around the departure gate.
And the chorus of "AGENT! AGENT! AGENT!" being screamed into cell phones.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by milesmilesmiles
Reservation shows this:

Depart:
7:48 a.m.Sun., Mar. 11, 2012
Atlanta, GA (ATL) Arrive:
10:00 a.m.
Sun., Mar. 11, 2012
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)

Flight Status shows this:

City: Atlanta, GA (ATL)
Gate: D12
Check-in Terminal:
Scheduled Time: 8:48 a.m.
Scheduled Date: Sun., Mar. 11, 2012
Estimated Time: 8:48 a.m.
Estimated Date: Sun., Mar. 11, 2012

City: New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Gate: 16
Terminal: terminal a
Scheduled Time: 11:00 a.m.
Scheduled Date: Sun., Mar. 11, 2012
Estimated Time: 11:00 a.m.
Estimated Date: Sun., Mar. 11, 2012
I know it is bad form to bump your own post so soon, but this just does not seem right to me. Perhaps the "flight status" link is not programmed for Daylight Savings Time change yet?

I still think the flight will leave 7:48AM on Sunday. Can't get through to agent to confirm.
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by milesmilesmiles
I know it is bad form to bump your own post so soon, but this just does not seem right to me. Perhaps the "flight status" link is not programmed for Daylight Savings Time change yet?

I still think the flight will leave 7:48AM on Sunday. Can't get through to agent to confirm.
Check flightstats.com (and maybe the departing airport's website if it has any)?
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by c1mth0g
Check flightstats.com (and maybe the departing airport's website if it has any)?
Flightstats shows 7:48 AM
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ajoy69
I have 3 PQS on 52K EQMs....must have also been quite some flights...so intense I can't even remember if planes can fly that long these days..)
sorry...have to find some humor in all of this
both PQM and PQS now alligned AND correct on the display, just in the last hr. I notice changes at about 6PM PST everyday.
But shows the follow in the Recent Activity Table below. Slow and steady. i see this and the 50% on Lufhtansa U fare as the two glitches in my system after a week. Not bad heh!!
lets see now if after next weeks flights I am back to ZERO overall on PQM and PQS


03/03/2012 2012 EQM conversion to PQM 0
03/03/2012 2012 EQS conversion to PQS 0
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