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cesco.g Oct 31, 2011 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 17349634)

Love the 757s and will be sad when they go away for good.

How many more years can be expected out of those 57s?
Are they're still being produced by Boeing and competitive?
I believe the A321 still rolls of the assembly line.

jlemon Oct 31, 2011 3:08 pm


Originally Posted by Xyzzy (Post 17346434)
Ya g:cool:tta love the Corvette of the current crop of airliners -- the 757-200 :p


Quite right!


My first 757 flight was out of STT (using the old runway) on EA many years ago. Talk about a powerful takeoff.....

Many 757-200 flights have followed on AA, CO, DL, NW and UA.

The first time I flew on a 757 to Hawaii (UA from LAX to OGG with the seven-five replacing previous DC-10 service), I asked the Capt. as he was walking through the F cabin what ETOPS meant. His reply: "Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim".

Also a number of times on the 757-300: CO and NW (now DL, of course) which is just fine up in F.

My favorite config? The BF set-up on the CO 752 for obvious reasons.

And I still don't know why Boeing hasn't come up with a true replacement for the venerable 757.....could the 797 be out there somewhere on the distant horizon?


Originally Posted by cesco.g (Post 17367546)
How many more years can be expected out of those 57s?
Are they're still being produced by Boeing and competitive?
I believe the A321 still rolls of the assembly line.

Nope. They quit building them some years ago, although I think they'll be around for quite some time.

Fedex has already said they will replace a whole bunch of 727s with used 757s.

EWR756 Oct 31, 2011 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by uastarflyer (Post 17367538)
Are SNA takeoffs an example of this?

Without a doubt although at CO, we don't operate the 75 to SNA that I'm aware of. I'm reasonably sure that we operate the 73-700 to SNA. It's been a few years since I've been on the 73.

Here's a little light reading regarding how we calculate reduced thrust and exactly how that's achieved...if you're interested. The assumed temperature can be easily changed to achieve maximum rated power for a given temperature.

While this is for the 73, it's a fairly simple explanation. All Boeing reduced thrust systems function similarly.

http://www.b737.org.uk/assumedtemp.htm

jlemon Oct 31, 2011 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by EWR756 (Post 17367613)
Without a doubt although at CO, we don't operate the 75 to SNA that I'm aware of. I'm reasonably sure that we operate the 73-700 to SNA. It's been a few years since I've been on the 73.

Here's a little light reading regarding how we calculate reduced thrust and exactly how that's achieved...if you're interested. The assumed temperature can be easily changed to achieve maximum rated power for a given temperature.

While this is for the 73, it's a fairly simple explanation. All Boeing reduced thrust systems function similarly.

http://www.b737.org.uk/assumedtemp.htm

Interesting takeoffs from SNA. I've flown on the 73G (CO) and the 734 (AS) out of there. Right after takeoff, they throttle back the engines considerably as they head for the coastline for noise abatement considerations (if memory serves me correctly)......

EWR756 Oct 31, 2011 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 17367647)
Interesting takeoffs from SNA. I've flown on the 73G (CO) and the 734 (AS) out of there. Right after takeoff, they throttle back the engines considerably as they head for the coastline for noise abatement considerations (if memory serves me correctly)......

Indeed. There are a couple of reasons for that. First, as you pointed out, there are significant noise considerations at SNA. Second, there's a normal thrust reduction that takes place around 1000ft (AGL at CAL). This reduction is a bit more pronounced when going from abnormally high power setting (non-reduced thrust) to normal climb power settings.

We do the same thing in the 75/76 fleet. Listen for it shortly after takeoff. It happens when the aircraft reduces from T/O to climb power.

CMK10 Oct 31, 2011 3:56 pm

Just don't ever get caught in the back. My third ever United flight was a 757 from BOS to LAX. I was in 34F. While it was nice having a whole row to myself, it took me I think about twenty minutes to deplane in LAX.

Santander Oct 31, 2011 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by jlemon (Post 17367557)
Fedex has already said they will replace a whole bunch of 727s with used 757s.

Now there's a beautiful plane.

why fly Oct 31, 2011 6:59 pm


Originally Posted by flingo (Post 17354900)
Given weakness in 737-700 demand, Boeing my decide to start the size of the 737MAX to match the 737-800, 737-900ER and something close to the 757-200.

It won't fly trans-atlantic (but this is actually less than 5% of 757 flying worldwide), but would be able to replace the 757 on most routes.

does the 737-900 have the range to do JFK-SFO nonstop? Even YYZ-SFO is a problem for UA a320's
I thought the advantage of the 757 was the range?

jlemon Oct 31, 2011 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by Santander (Post 17368135)
Now there's a beautiful plane.

Yes, I think so as well.

Flew on the 727-200 and/or 727-100 on AA, AS, BN, CO, DL, EA, NA, NW, PS, UA and WA.....

What a great old bird!

jlemon Oct 31, 2011 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by why fly (Post 17368705)
does the 737-900 have the range to do JFK-SFO nonstop? Even YYZ-SFO is a problem for UA a320's
I thought the advantage of the 757 was the range?

Well, there is a 739ER version which flies West Coast-Hawaii......

TMOliver Oct 31, 2011 7:30 pm

I hate to say it, but my first and latest reactions, forced to sit "way back" was a feeling that the 757 was a latter day reincarnation of the dreaded "Stretch 8", a fuselage as claustrophobic in the high number rows as a Bering Cigar Tube with wings.

They do offer some performance advantages and unless fatigue sets in at a lower cycle number than projected, will be around for a while....

Santander Oct 31, 2011 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by why fly (Post 17368705)
does the 737-900 have the range to do JFK-SFO nonstop? Even YYZ-SFO is a problem for UA a320's
I thought the advantage of the 757 was the range?

CO flies 739s regularly EWR-SFO. (And it is a pretty miserable ride)

Olton Hall Oct 31, 2011 7:54 pm

I love the 752 ever since my first ride in one way back in 1980 what ever when NW got them to replace the 727.

The PMCO are much newer than PMUA's CO's oldest about the same age as UA newest and the CO's are so much cleaner.



Originally Posted by Santander (Post 17368919)
CO flies 739s regularly EWR-SFO. (And it is a pretty miserable ride)

That's the ER version. Regular version doesn't have the range for the flight.

revigik Oct 31, 2011 8:02 pm

Well, if the A320 has problems on that route UA clearly deals with it. I took A320 from LAX-PHL hahaha.


Originally Posted by why fly (Post 17368705)
does the 737-900 have the range to do JFK-SFO nonstop? Even YYZ-SFO is a problem for UA a320's
I thought the advantage of the 757 was the range?


knoebelsPT Oct 31, 2011 10:28 pm

Generally love the plane, but the legroom in 1E on the UA 752 is brutal.


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