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CO/UA Million Mile (and Beyond) Flyer Benefits, Effective Spring 2012
Sep 26, 2011, 9:07 am
#391
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I think the one time adjustment will be interesting. I am not sure how far back they will go with the BIS instead of EQM. I flew a lot of first and business in the 90s and was Global Services the first two years of the program. I currently have 2.55M miles and was pushing for the 3MM mark. If I get 50% bonus for all those old flights and I get credit for a lot of lfying I did on SQ, I think I will end up very close to the 3MM and 1K for life. I see no way to claculate it precisely on my own, so I will have to trust them.
Starting in 2012, the program will be based on actual flight miles, however, we will make a one-time adjustment on the United side to boost everyone’s lifetime earnings to EQMs dating back to the beginning of the program
Sep 26, 2011, 9:19 am
#392
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As it's Sep 26, we can now nominate our companion at
www.mileageplus.com/thanksamillion
Status won't take hold until 2012.
www.mileageplus.com/thanksamillion
Status won't take hold until 2012.
Here is the exact response, including grammatical errors:
! You cannot designate FF Number as you are not an Million Miler
Sep 26, 2011, 9:22 am
#393
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I'm sort of assuming they'll only give what the program at the time said. So COS enhanced EQM from 2004 onwards. Personally I'm in the same position as you - flew C and lots of full fare Y in the 90s, but not expecting that to get recognised. I think it will be as simple as if you went back to the old paper statements and summed up all the year-to-date miles you get your total, without retrospectively adding COS bonuses to those numbers.
Sep 26, 2011, 9:34 am
#394
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(props to wwbgd, by the way
)Dave
Sep 26, 2011, 10:39 am
#395
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Location: Menlo Park, CA, USA
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I think that UAMP is going to have to go back to the beginning of the program (or, whenever COOP started doing it) for COS EQM, and possibly other EQM since that is when CO started. I'm thinking that based on the last decade of my 1K runs, many years with DEQM I had about 30K a YEAR, plus 5000 CC bonuses, plus I'm wonder about CHOICES EQM bonuses, which were towards ANNUAL targets, but I had a number of years I did 5000 CHOICES EQMS, that should add up.
Sep 26, 2011, 11:10 am
#396
Join Date: May 2001
Location: exUA1K, UA MM, lifetime UA1P, AA MM, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
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case study
OK, I admit that I have not read the 27 pages of previous posts on this MM topic.
Please attempt to predict what would happen in the following case study:
Current CO lifetime miles: 50,000
Current UA lifetime BIS: 1,250,000
Current UA total reward miles earned from beginning of MP: ESTIMATED to be 2,200,000
Total miles earned from hotels, rental cars, and credit cards: ESTIMATED 100,000
In the above case study, will UA's math be: 2,200,000 + 50,000 = 2,250,000 miles and award lifetime Platinum ststus?
Please attempt to predict what would happen in the following case study:
Current CO lifetime miles: 50,000
Current UA lifetime BIS: 1,250,000
Current UA total reward miles earned from beginning of MP: ESTIMATED to be 2,200,000
Total miles earned from hotels, rental cars, and credit cards: ESTIMATED 100,000
In the above case study, will UA's math be: 2,200,000 + 50,000 = 2,250,000 miles and award lifetime Platinum ststus?
Last edited by roberto99; Sep 26, 2011 at 11:21 am
Sep 26, 2011, 11:21 am
#397
Join Date: Dec 2004
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And I conclude slightly differently.
The reason: if you look at the "upgrade benefits" chart on united.com, it states that PPs get RPUs/CR1 and 1Ks get GPUs/SWU as a benefit. Full stop.
Now, we all know that PPs get them because of flying 75K in a year, and 1k's get them because of flying 100k in a year, as that's when they are now deposited.
HOWEVER, taken literally at face value, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that lifetime PPs/1Ks get their RPUs/GPUs as per their minimum status level, especially when you include Scott's cryptic "partner" benefit list.
At the very least, we need to hear straight from MP to be sure.
The reason: if you look at the "upgrade benefits" chart on united.com, it states that PPs get RPUs/CR1 and 1Ks get GPUs/SWU as a benefit. Full stop.
Now, we all know that PPs get them because of flying 75K in a year, and 1k's get them because of flying 100k in a year, as that's when they are now deposited.
HOWEVER, taken literally at face value, it is not an unreasonable conclusion that lifetime PPs/1Ks get their RPUs/GPUs as per their minimum status level, especially when you include Scott's cryptic "partner" benefit list.
At the very least, we need to hear straight from MP to be sure.
Sep 26, 2011, 11:24 am
#398
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* Presuming that they are EQM's then I predict you will be credited with 1.25 million lifetime miles.
I predict that you will be gold.
Dave
Sep 26, 2011, 11:52 am
#399
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
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I assume TEQM will be included in the calculations if DEQM is? But we really don't know for sure that DEQM will be counted, do we?
Sep 26, 2011, 12:01 pm
#400
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SWU were never promised for life.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Sep 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm Reason: merge
Sep 26, 2011, 12:22 pm
#401
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If UA wants to have a over the top marketing PR bonanza they should let us know where we are now for the bump. You know UA has an idea already. That would really get people thinking and flying. Since the changes were announced which I view as mostly positive I've booked 7 UA RT flights and probably have 38k EQM in place for 2012. I'm looking forward to GS and passing thru 3MM quickly.
Sep 26, 2011, 12:29 pm
#402
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I don't think you can get any more clearer than this statement from UA Insider on the first post of this thread: "This spousal benefit will replace the one-time and annual upgrade gifts, and hopefully you’ll agree this is a better deal." The annual upgrade gifts will be gone as of next year and the last deposits will be 1/1/2012.
Sep 26, 2011, 12:47 pm
#403
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 4,510
No, we do NOT "absolutely" know. The website, which I consider the official "word" only refers to "both base EQM and bonus EQM." DEQM and TEQM are not specifically mentioned and could be considered promotional EQM and not "bonus" EQM.
Sep 26, 2011, 12:49 pm
#404
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And I interpret this to mean that only the CR1's (that was really the only annual gift that MM'er got in the past) will be taken away. 1K 's were awarded 6 SWU's in the past for achieving that level of flying and those awards will not be eliminated. The spouse will not be awarded SWU's by virtue of being named a companion.
Sep 26, 2011, 12:53 pm
#405
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Southern California, GVA, SIN, LHR, BRU, CDG
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I think the one time adjustment will be interesting. I am not sure how far back they will go with the BIS instead of EQM. I flew a lot of first and business in the 90s and was Global Services the first two years of the program. I currently have 2.55M miles and was pushing for the 3MM mark. If I get 50% bonus for all those old flights and I get credit for a lot of lfying I did on SQ, I think I will end up very close to the 3MM and 1K for life. I see no way to claculate it precisely on my own, so I will have to trust them.
Last edited by 1KPath; Sep 26, 2011 at 12:58 pm