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Benefits unique to the Chase MP Presidential Plus card (closed and not available for new cardholders)
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- FPQMs can only be used to increase PQMs to a max of 75,000. They are not counted once 75K is reached. (example 80K PQMs +10 FPQMs is still 80K total)
- FPQMs cannot be used to earn GPUs or RPUs past 75K PQMs
- FPQMs are held separately and are only used when the owner requests them to be applied to their MP accountFPQMs can be applied for a given year as late as March 31 of the next year
General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQP ( was Flex PQM)
#796
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: EWR
Programs: UA 1.65M , Platinum, 1K Emeritus, UC Lifetime , HHonors Gold, Presidential Plus card holder
Posts: 701
A friend just called and asked for advice and I'm not sure I gave it correctly. I need a fairly quick answer. Thank you.
Scenario -
Grandfathers Presidential Card with about 60k FEQM
Current status - gold
Miles earned this year 20k
He is unsure what to do regarding status.
He was going to transfer enough for gold, but I told him there wasn't that much additional benefit between gold & silver, particularly since he rarely gets any upgrades on his flights.
Scenario -
Grandfathers Presidential Card with about 60k FEQM
Current status - gold
Miles earned this year 20k
He is unsure what to do regarding status.
- Should he transfer 5k miles this year for silver in 2020?
- Should he transfer 25k miles in January for status in 2020 & 2021? If so, does he need to also have the 4 flight requirements for silver?
He was going to transfer enough for gold, but I told him there wasn't that much additional benefit between gold & silver, particularly since he rarely gets any upgrades on his flights.
#797
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
I can't thank all of you enough. This is a very good friend and I owe him a lot. Being able to offer him this advice makes ME feel like I'm helping him a bit.
#798
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
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He just told me he may have 4 flights in January...
So to triple check this. For silver gold attained in January:
25k FEQMs
4 flights
No spend requirement
This will get him silver for 2020 & Jan 31 2022
Beyond that, his converted FEQM miles to points will can be used to attain status going forward.
So to triple check this. For silver gold attained in January:
25k FEQMs
4 flights
No spend requirement
This will get him silver for 2020 & Jan 31 2022
Beyond that, his converted FEQM miles to points will can be used to attain status going forward.
#799
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,959
I do not know the conversion from FEQMs to PQP (Premier Qualifying Points) for the new program year (starting from January 1 2020). The MP program site says: "The United℠ Presidential Plus℠ Card and United℠ Presidential Plus℠ Business Card earn 500 PQP for every $12,000 in card spend, up to 10,000 PQP in a calendar year, that can be applied up to 1K." https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...r/qualify.html
For Premier Silver status, one needs: "12 PQF and 4,000 PQP or 5,000 PQP," where PQF is Premier Qualifying Flight (1 PQF = one taking off/landing).
The status earned during January 1 - December 31, 2020 (calendar year) will be good until January 31, 2022; i.e., approximately 2 years if one earns it in January 2020.
#800
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
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THANK YOU.
So it appears that silver can be attained in January using 5000 PQP and no PQF. But if the miles aren't converted until April, how can it be done?
I can't believe how confusing this is..........
So it appears that silver can be attained in January using 5000 PQP and no PQF. But if the miles aren't converted until April, how can it be done?
I can't believe how confusing this is..........
#801
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ORF, RIC
Programs: UA LT 1K, 3 MM; Marriott Titanium; IHG Platinum
Posts: 6,959
#802
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Yes, I mean about the changes... your explanations are pretty clear, but because the situations vary, it is hard to put together the new requirements with all the scenarios that may occur.
But in all cases, a minimum of 4 segments for any level of status will be required.
But in all cases, a minimum of 4 segments for any level of status will be required.
#803
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: United MileagePlus
Posts: 128
FPQM to PQP Presidential Plus Card
I have a legacy Presidential Plus Chase United Card. I will have 40,000 FPQM in January left over. I know that on Apr 1 2020 the FPQM will convert to PQP at a ratio of 5:1. But what happens before Apr 1? Are the FPQM worth anything in the new 2020 MileagePlus Premier qualification plan? I did not see an answer to this elsewhere but sorry if it has been answered.
#804
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,011
I have a legacy Presidential Plus Chase United Card. I will have 40,000 FPQM in January left over. I know that on Apr 1 2020 the FPQM will convert to PQP at a ratio of 5:1. But what happens before Apr 1? Are the FPQM worth anything in the new 2020 MileagePlus Premier qualification plan? I did not see an answer to this elsewhere but sorry if it has been answered.
#806
Join Date: Dec 2019
Programs: UA
Posts: 3
Gold now before change in 2020? Does it matter?
Long time lurker finally posting something =)
With the status changes coming up, is there any point in waiting to use my FPQM to upgrade to Gold in 2020? In 2019, Gold means you earn miles faster, but that won't matter in 2020. Are there any other listed benefits Gold in 2020?
Basically I am sitting on a bunch of FPQM and can go Gold now or wait until they're converted and go Gold in 2020. Additionally, I was planning a Japan trip so that could add more value to my PQP in 2020?
I'm thinking I should go Gold in 2019, assume some benefits will exist in 2020 for Gold-level purchases, purchase additional trip and (if it's > 5000 PQP), get bumped up to Platinum for the year. Does that sound right?
Thanks as always for everyone's input - I've always learned a lot here!
With the status changes coming up, is there any point in waiting to use my FPQM to upgrade to Gold in 2020? In 2019, Gold means you earn miles faster, but that won't matter in 2020. Are there any other listed benefits Gold in 2020?
Basically I am sitting on a bunch of FPQM and can go Gold now or wait until they're converted and go Gold in 2020. Additionally, I was planning a Japan trip so that could add more value to my PQP in 2020?
I'm thinking I should go Gold in 2019, assume some benefits will exist in 2020 for Gold-level purchases, purchase additional trip and (if it's > 5000 PQP), get bumped up to Platinum for the year. Does that sound right?
Thanks as always for everyone's input - I've always learned a lot here!
#807
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: WAS/ BOM
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,567
Have they clarified how the FPQM will change in 2020 because of the program changes? Since status earning is purely money based in 2020, not sure how the FPQMs will factor in. If you become Gold now, you can atleast earn miles faster next year - not sure why it wouldn't matter next year. Redeemable miles are still multiplier based (if on a 016 stock). So if you are a GM, you will earn redeemable miles at 5X Eligible spend, versus at Gold you will be at 8X Eligible Spend. Additionally, if you are Gold now, you can avail E+ seating at booking, Lounge access on international flights, better award availability (and everything that UA "states" a Premier Gold will get)
#808
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,868
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Basically I am sitting on a bunch of FPQM and can go Gold now or wait until they're converted and go Gold in 2020. Additionally, I was planning a Japan trip so that could add more value to my PQP in 2020?
I'm thinking I should go Gold in 2019, assume some benefits will exist in 2020 for Gold-level purchases, purchase additional trip and (if it's > 5000 PQP), get bumped up to Platinum for the year. Does that sound right? ...
Basically I am sitting on a bunch of FPQM and can go Gold now or wait until they're converted and go Gold in 2020. Additionally, I was planning a Japan trip so that could add more value to my PQP in 2020?
I'm thinking I should go Gold in 2019, assume some benefits will exist in 2020 for Gold-level purchases, purchase additional trip and (if it's > 5000 PQP), get bumped up to Platinum for the year. Does that sound right? ...
If instead you wait until 1 Jan 2020 or later and use the converted FlexPQP to get 2020 Premier Gold, it will be good until January 31, 2022
#809
Join Date: Dec 2019
Programs: UA
Posts: 3
Thanks for the reply and good point about the qual year vs. award year, but what if I went into 2020 as Gold and then bought enough tickets (PQP) to go Platinum in 2020 - wouldn't that mean I can stay Platinum through Jan 2022 since my status change (Gold > Plat) was in 2020?
#810
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
Thanks for the reply and good point about the qual year vs. award year, but what if I went into 2020 as Gold and then bought enough tickets (PQP) to go Platinum in 2020 - wouldn't that mean I can stay Platinum through Jan 2022 since my status change (Gold > Plat) was in 2020?
I haven’t read the details on how they’re treating FPQM under the new PQP regime, but assuming they’re worth about the same, waiting six days will give you an entire extra *year* of status.
Earning status early in a given year is by far the best time to get it.