An open question to moderators RE: this United consolidated forum
Apr 4, 2011, 8:06 pm
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Thank you moderators for all of your work. I agree there is no easy way to handle this change, but I have to agree with the others that the current three forums are a bit too much. I would either leave the two forums for now until UACO is really one airline or go ahead and merge eveything.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
Apr 5, 2011, 5:13 am
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Well it's pretty clear here what most participants want. It's also clear that there is an element of pride in play here and that the powers that be are utterly intransigent preventing any reconsideration or admission that another way would be superior. Can't admit a mistake. Since they've heavily discussed it among themselves extensively, they know what's best for the masses. Given the absence of any way to overrule them, I suppose we'll just have to solider on until customer day 1.
Apr 5, 2011, 7:07 am
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Given this just went into effect on Friday & it's only Tuesday & the thread itself only has 33 posts, some of which are by the mods explaining the thought processes, I'm not sure I'm willing to extrapolate that to mean most participants want to be the old way. I figure it will take a few days & people will adjust (including me).
Also, I don't see this as pride or superior or unwilling to admit mistakes. Where did that come from? It's not easy when airlines merge, & I don't envy the mods their jobs in trying to make this work for us. I wasn't part of, but I heard the Delta/Northwest merger wasn't pretty, both in terms of the merger itself & in trying to merge the forums. This new method might be a case of learning from prior experience.
Cheers.
Also, I don't see this as pride or superior or unwilling to admit mistakes. Where did that come from? It's not easy when airlines merge, & I don't envy the mods their jobs in trying to make this work for us. I wasn't part of, but I heard the Delta/Northwest merger wasn't pretty, both in terms of the merger itself & in trying to merge the forums. This new method might be a case of learning from prior experience.
Cheers.
Apr 5, 2011, 12:01 pm
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Apr 5, 2011, 9:47 pm
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And the question is, isn't this a little bit premature?
Yes, the airlines are one company, but wouldn't it be better to wait until "customer day 1" or some point in the future where the company is a little more operationally merged from a customer's perspective?
I was envisioning/hoping at that point you would close the CO forum, or close both forums and start a new one, and then we'd just have one forum going forward.
Now we have three open forums for one airline.. it was already a PITA to have to read and post in 2 forums... now I've got to read and post in 3.. when will I have time to work?
I was just wondering what others thought.
Yes, the airlines are one company, but wouldn't it be better to wait until "customer day 1" or some point in the future where the company is a little more operationally merged from a customer's perspective?
I was envisioning/hoping at that point you would close the CO forum, or close both forums and start a new one, and then we'd just have one forum going forward.
Now we have three open forums for one airline.. it was already a PITA to have to read and post in 2 forums... now I've got to read and post in 3.. when will I have time to work?
I was just wondering what others thought.
In a word, "YES"
Last edited by iluv2fly; Apr 5, 2011 at 10:39 pm Reason: merge
Apr 6, 2011, 2:12 am
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I did chuckle a bit when I saw this merged forum. Here we have a merged airline with seperate FF programs, an airline that still can't even show seat maps for each other on the other's web site, and yet we have have a merged forum here...someone here should get a job at the new UA. 
Apr 6, 2011, 6:02 am
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Here's an example of what is frustrating (to me) about this setup:
We now have THREE threads all discussing the US Airways $259 Club special going on right now:
(1) United Pre-Merger
(2) Continental Pre-Merger
(3) United Consolidated
This is, to me, quite silly and would be alleviated by the proposal earlier in this thread only to allow posting new threads to the United Merged forum.
It is a simple fix and would streamline things quickly, IMHO.
We now have THREE threads all discussing the US Airways $259 Club special going on right now:
(1) United Pre-Merger
(2) Continental Pre-Merger
(3) United Consolidated
This is, to me, quite silly and would be alleviated by the proposal earlier in this thread only to allow posting new threads to the United Merged forum.
It is a simple fix and would streamline things quickly, IMHO.
Last edited by DawgmanOH; Apr 6, 2011 at 6:28 am Reason: Poor spelling
Apr 6, 2011, 9:01 am
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Here's an example of what is frustrating (to me) about this setup:
We now have THREE threads all discussing the US Airways $259 Club special going on right now:
(1) United Pre-Merger
(2) Continental Pre-Merger
(3) United Consolidated
This is, to me, quite silly and would be alleviated by the proposal earlier in this thread only to allow posting new threads to the United Merged forum.
It is a simple fix and would streamline things quickly, IMHO.
We now have THREE threads all discussing the US Airways $259 Club special going on right now:
(1) United Pre-Merger
(2) Continental Pre-Merger
(3) United Consolidated
This is, to me, quite silly and would be alleviated by the proposal earlier in this thread only to allow posting new threads to the United Merged forum.
It is a simple fix and would streamline things quickly, IMHO.
This is a great candidate for the combined forum. Please feel free to use the Report Bad Post functionality to suggest the same to the moderator team. This also applies to other threads that are potential candidates for a move.
Apr 6, 2011, 9:07 am
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As for the snarky comments by some users who believe they speak for everyone, we as a group ran through ALL of the options for combining the legacy forums and through hours of discussion came to the conclusion that a gentle transition to a new "United" forum would be most efficient and least disruptive to the community. Simply put, trying to make it happen on Customer Day 1 of the combined operating certificate would be a nightmare for both the members of the community as well as the volunteer moderators.
Apr 6, 2011, 9:22 am
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Rather than delete this post for being quite off topic, I thought it would be a great time to address this negative perspective. The moderator team is in full favor of constructive discussion surrounding the questions, issues, concerns and suggestions for UACO. Quite often these discussions are very informative and thought provoking. But let me be quite clear, this dialog must be balanced, polite and respectful or we will need to enforce the T&Cs of the FlyerTalk community.