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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
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If these:
Patients admitted Patients in hospital Patients in ventilation beds ....start to shift significantly then I think a lockdown looms. Perhaps the 93% of the UK (I think it was UK figures) that the ONS modelled that have antibodies are preventing death and hospitalizations to such a degree that "the lag" is not actually going to materialize as anything more than a trickle. |
My understanding is that when they report percents of Omnicron cases for a day they take (samples sequecned revealing Omicron/all samples sequenced) and not all daily cases are sequenced. That's how you get 25% Omicron, not by dividing the number of id-ed Omicron by all cases.
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The Scotland logic is here
https://publichealthscotland.scot/me...ion_report.pdf see page 10. They split the number of cases between certain (genomic sequencing), highly probable (where there is S gene target failure on PCRs) and possible - projecting from positives where S genes aren't being checked (e.g. lateral flows not confirmed by PCRs, PCRs using fixed cartridges and so on). As of 12 December there were 186 TOTAL cases of the Omicron Variant confirmed by genotyping, 56 from S gene target failure, 4010 cases projected from other confirmed cases. Equals 4252 cases on 12 December - whereas on 5 December it was 389, and we see a scary high doubling time of 2.1 days. |
Originally Posted by DaveS
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Cases 78,610 (51,342 last Wednesday) ... A big jump in cases is none too surprising. It is the second highest daily figure, the highest being on the 29th December at over 80,000. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b8329abf87.png |
Originally Posted by JustTheOne
(Post 33816847)
And yet the government (and the media) are repeatedly saying that yesterday was the highest since the pandemic started. I wonder why, considering it's there in blue and grey on their own data site:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b8329abf87.png |
Attal says travellers from the UK will have to show a PCR/antigen test less than 24 hours old (as opposed to 48 hours until now). Only French citizens returning from the UK, or British people living in France, will be allowed to come to France. |
Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 33816947)
France effectively banning entry from the UK. Will the rest of the EU follow?
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It is a completely useless measure. French authorities do not do a lot of sequencing, actually barely. There is no publication of any kind about cases in France except raw numbers (because you can criticize a lot the management of the pandemic in the UK but the work done and published by its agencies and scientists is world-class) so they currently have no clue about where and who has Omicron. But it is there, and probably with just one week delay or less compared to the UK.
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 33816947)
France effectively banning entry from the UK. Will the rest of the EU follow?
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33816974)
It is a completely useless measure. French authorities do not do a lot of sequencing, actually barely. There is no publication of any kind about cases in France except raw numbers (because you can criticize a lot the management of the pandemic in the UK but the work done and published by its agencies and scientists is world-class) so they currently have no clue about where and who has Omicron. But it is there, and probably with just one week delay or less compared to the UK.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
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It is a completely useless measure. French authorities do not do a lot of sequencing, actually barely. There is no publication of any kind about cases in France except raw numbers (because you can criticize a lot the management of the pandemic in the UK but the work done and published by its agencies and scientists is world-class) so they currently have no clue about where and who has Omicron. But it is there, and probably with just one week delay or less compared to the UK.
I expect there will be massive booster campaigns this week with many countries increasing pace and capacity... |
Am currently in the queue in deepest Edgware for my booster. My appointment was at 11:45am and at nearly 1pm I am not yet inside the pharmacy.
Here is what the queue looked like at 12pm https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3c7095c04.jpeg |
The .... in France has hit the fan already. There are 0 ICU beds available in the entire crown surrounding Paris. Omicron is here, and there are no clue about the number (today the Health minister said we have 200, but remember they sequence 1% of the tests).
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Wholly, are they accepting booster walk-ins...
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Originally Posted by nk15
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Wholly, are they accepting booster walk-ins...
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