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Originally Posted by Scots_Al
(Post 33698068)
It’s a good job he’s technically on UN territory rather than Scottish territory, where he would be breaking the law…
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Very very high Scottish cases today.
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
(Post 33699239)
Very very high Scottish cases today.
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I'm seeing quite an offensive of no-vaxxers here in West London. Some of the underpasses beneath the A4 have been plastered with no-vaxx stickers, there have been graffiti daubed on a number of gazebos and various installations along the Thames, adverts have been defaced with more no-vaxx nonsense and yesterday on Goldhawk road there was a woman (white lady in her 50s) going around with a large placard with some idiocy about people dying because of the vaccines. I have to say she was either ignored or at best sneered at.
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The mask situation on London's public transport is depressing. There is a mask mandate but, as it seems, the chances of it being enforced are next to none:
Only 1 in 66,000 barred from Tube travel for not wearing face mask, figures revealBetween July 19 and October 21, 364 people were prevented from boarding a train or entering a TfL station |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33700797)
I'm seeing quite an offensive of no-vaxxers here in West London. Some of the underpasses beneath the A4 have been plastered with no-vaxx stickers, there have been graffiti daubed on a number of gazebos and various installations along the Thames, adverts have been defaced with more no-vaxx nonsense and yesterday on Goldhawk road there was a woman (white lady in her 50s) going around with a large placard with some idiocy about people dying because of the vaccines. I have to say she was either ignored or at best sneered at.
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Originally Posted by Silver Fox
(Post 33700977)
Well it seems to have worked looking at the pathetic amount of people that have had their second doses in some boroughs.
Maybe there's the fact that there was very little information in languages other than English or targeted towards minorities (the only thing I saw was some billboards aimed at the West African diaspora, who here in Ealing is non-existent) and, obviously, the fact that you can't get an appointment to a GP for love or money. Just my 2p's worth. |
Yes, one of the main problem is disparity by ethnic groups, and it seems the program did not include going to those persons.
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Daily data:
Cases 37,269 (39,842 last Thursday) Deaths 214 (165) Patients admitted 1,005 (968 on the 24th) Patients in hospital 9,311 (8,968 on the 27th) Patients in ventilation beds 1,019 (945 on the 27th) People vaccinated up to and including 3 November 2021: First dose: 50,112,925 Second dose: 45,770,452 Booster: 9,012,676 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 6.9% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 12.3%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 170.0 today. |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33701019)
I don't know. I must admit I haven't spent too much time thinking about this topic, but from what I understand (and I welcome corrections) the demographics that are lagging behind in terms of vaccinations in London are minority groups. For instance, over here in W3/W4, the Somali community is lagging behind from what I hear from I might be stepping too far here, but somehow I don't see the Somali ladies in my neighbourhood falling for the anti-vaxx propaganda of our local "activists" (who, BTW, are the same who campaign against cycling infrastructure, were manning the gazebos for Brexit and are vocally anti-LTNs).
Maybe there's the fact that there was very little information in languages other than English or targeted towards minorities (the only thing I saw was some billboards aimed at the West African diaspora, who here in Ealing is non-existent) and, obviously, the fact that you can't get an appointment to a GP for love or money. Just my 2p's worth. The first survey out on this topic (and you have to treat these surveys with kid gloves) suggests that there’s a correlation between Labour supporters and anti vaxxers, which is precisely the opposite to what is believed to be the case in the USA. |
There is distinct and observed link between being pro-Brexit and anti-vax:
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/co...atterns-886803 People who voted for Brexit are less enthusiastic about having a coronavirus vaccine, new research suggested yesterday. A survey by YouGov for Oxford University showed Remainers are nearly 7 percentage points more likely to have the jab than people who voted Leave in the 2016 referendum, 93.8 per cent compared to 87.1 per cent. |
Cod science. Brexit voters tended to be poorer and have lower educational outcomes compared to Remain voters. Poverty and those who left school at 14 or 16 tend to have poor health outcomes, across the board, and tend to die younger too. This isn't a uniform picture, so Sunderland (Brexit voting) has slightly better vaccine stats than Newcastle (Remain). You could therefore make the same argument that cat owners are more likely to have had the vaccine compared to goldfish owners.
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I can't see what the relevance is of one to the other?
I am not sure this really helps explain levels of vaccine hesitancy seen in certain pockets of society as shown in post 7717, or really provides any insight as to how we may address concerns they have about having vaccine. |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
(Post 33701120)
Yes, one of the main problem is disparity by ethnic groups, and it seems the program did not include going to those persons.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 33702383)
I can't see what the relevance is of one to the other?
I am not sure this really helps explain levels of vaccine hesitancy seen in certain pockets of society as shown in post 7717, or really provides any insight as to how we may address concerns they have about having vaccine. |
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