Is Global Entry worthwhile?

Old Feb 4, 09, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Ari View Post
CBP can try to be more efficient by not taking any breaks and bringing a few officers in from the office area to clear passengers, but they can't just relax the border just to hasten the line.
I don't consider it relaxing the border to let Americans re-enter their country without questions once their passport has come back clear and they have been visually identified as the passport bearer. It serves no purpose to ask a multitude of questions, other than to slow down a line that is often slow enough to begin with. If a point of concern comes up during the passport scan, that is one thing. Going on a fishing expedition is another.
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Old Feb 4, 09, 6:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ESpen36 View Post
GlobalEntry is worth every penny. It truly does pay for itself. The next time you are at ORD standing in line behind hundreds of people at passport control, think of how easier it would be to zip through by using the kiosk!

(Plus, even if the kiosks are not working, you can skip to the front of the line and/or use the crew line.)

PLEASE sign up! The more members in the system, the greater the incentive for CBP to deploy the kiosks at more airports.
If a large majority of people sign up, the benefits of skipping to the front of the line, having a separate line or even using the kiosk all go away. Systems like this only benefit the members if membership is limited. (Just as being elite on an airline is useless if everyone is elite. )

(Actually, since I don't intend to sign up for anything like this, I should encourage you all to do so, so I can have the regular passport line to myself!)
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Old Feb 4, 09, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Paolo01 View Post
What about the privacy issue with GOES? Spiff where are you. I am not an advocate of Fly Clear or programs like this because it is yet another place I have to air my life story out in some database that I am not entirely sure about its security. Spiff and all of the guys I am normally at odds with in this forum, what are the security/pricacy issues with Global Entry?

Here is the GOES Privacy Statement.
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Old Feb 4, 09, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl View Post
If a large majority of people sign up, the benefits of skipping to the front of the line, having a separate line or even using the kiosk all go away. Systems like this only benefit the members if membership is limited. (Just as being elite on an airline is useless if everyone is elite. )

I don't think that's an issue with GlobalEntry. It's extremely unlikely that a "large majority" of eligible travelers would sign up. The $100 fee plus the rigamarole of the application and interview will keep membership pretty limited.

In fact, there were only 4,400 active members of GlobalEntry as of December 2008.

Furthermore, how many international trips do most Kettles have in a given year? Maybe Cancun once every 2 years? Canada over the summer? Certainly not enough to justify an additional $100 on top of the cost of the passport. (Actually, it would be $200 for 10 years, which is the length of passport validity for those older than 16.)

Only 20-30% of the U.S. population (#s vary depending on which website you look at) has been issued a passport. We need to keep in mind that FTers tend to have MANY more arrivals into the USA each year than the average person holding a U.S. passport.

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Old Feb 4, 09, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ESpen36 View Post
I understand the privacy statement. I am just curious as to LessO2's comments and Spiffs and all the other privacy stalwarts comments about the privacy of this program. They would not be thrilled, I would not think, by an agency's own declaration that the DB was secure. I DO NOT want to put words in their mouths that is why I am waiting patiently to see what they have to say and I already appreciate LessO2's comments.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by Paolo01 View Post
Spiff and all of the guys I am normally at odds with in this forum, what are the security/pricacy issues with Global Entry?
I initially had a CANPASS card, which was the Canadian version of Global entry. During that process, I had some concerns, but the way I looked at it, they were asking for stuff I had to produce when crossing the border anyways, so they already had the info. Granted, they took an iris scan, which I hadn't produced before..

I then "upgraded" to NEXUS, the program run mainly by Canada Customs, but used at US pre-clearance centers in Canada for entry into the US. For that, I had to give the US fingerprints, which I have before for different jobs and such, and they asked me the usual customs questions.

Global Entry was an automatic approval since I was already in NEXUS.

CLEAR requires substantially more information than I usually give an airline when flying domestically. That's a huge difference for me, vs any of the GOES-based pre-clearance programs.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 9:05 am
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Thanks for all of your feedback. I applied for Global Entry based upon this. I'll also go for Nexus but I'll do it next. Plus my work in Canada has slowed -- we sold one of the companies on which I had a board seat and I'm leaving a couple of the others. I had CanPass and I do the Iris Scan thing at LHR (which is free, I think).
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Old Feb 5, 09, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by ESpen36 View Post
Only 20-30% of the U.S. population (#s vary depending on which website you look at) has been issued a passport. We need to keep in mind that FTers tend to have MANY more arrivals into the USA each year than the average person holding a U.S. passport.
Further to that, remember the old "20/80" rule about passengers on a plane and revenue. Divide that up by the number of entry points into the U.S., and it's unlikely you'll see any "crowding" at the kiosks anytime soon.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by goaliemn View Post
I initially had a CANPASS card, which was the Canadian version of Global entry. During that process, I had some concerns, but the way I looked at it, they were asking for stuff I had to produce when crossing the border anyways, so they already had the info. Granted, they took an iris scan, which I hadn't produced before..

I then "upgraded" to NEXUS, the program run mainly by Canada Customs, but used at US pre-clearance centers in Canada for entry into the US. For that, I had to give the US fingerprints, which I have before for different jobs and such, and they asked me the usual customs questions.

Global Entry was an automatic approval since I was already in NEXUS.

CLEAR requires substantially more information than I usually give an airline when flying domestically. That's a huge difference for me, vs any of the GOES-based pre-clearance programs.

I did the same thing with CANPASS, then NEXUS. But I got into Global Entry before the "automatic NEXUS" thing was put in place.

Agree 100% with the Clear sentiment.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by Paolo01 View Post
I understand the privacy statement. I am just curious as to LessO2's comments and Spiffs and all the other privacy stalwarts comments about the privacy of this program. They would not be thrilled, I would not think, by an agency's own declaration that the DB was secure. I DO NOT want to put words in their mouths that is why I am waiting patiently to see what they have to say and I already appreciate LessO2's comments.
I think you're bordering on analysis paralysis here.

Think of this another way. It's very likely there's more information out about you among private companies right now. Your bank(s) and your credit card company/companies know a LOT more about you than The G right now.

I've been a CANPASS or NEXUS member for four years now (and Global Entry for six months) and have had no problems.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by timfountain View Post
Anyone know why DFW isn't on the list of entry airports, or when it might be added?

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Anyone? It's my port of entry for almost all my international flights and is conspicuous by its absence from the list....
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Old Feb 5, 09, 12:00 pm
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Anyone? It's my port of entry for almost all my international flights and is conspicuous by its absence from the list....
The Global Entry website does not list Dallas.

I think the best course of action would be to ask them at DFW. I would suggest asking multiple people at different times, as some might have heard about it, some might not have.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 8:43 pm
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I was conditionally accepted into Global Entry and now have 30 days to get to one of the offices. Unfortunately, I don't have plans to be in any one of those airports in the next month. Any thoughts?
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Old Feb 5, 09, 10:49 pm
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I was conditionally accepted into Global Entry and now have 30 days to get to one of the offices. Unfortunately, I don't have plans to be in any one of those airports in the next month. Any thoughts?
You just have to Schedule an interview within 30 days. The interview date it self can be anytime in the future, and is changeable online if your plans change.
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Old Feb 5, 09, 10:52 pm
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Anyone? It's my port of entry for almost all my international flights and is conspicuous by its absence from the list....
I'm going through Dallas from Frankfurt Sunday. I'll ask a few people if I have time.

Is there any chance we would be allowed to use the Crew line?
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