Is Global Entry worthwhile?
#1591
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Happened to me last year in ORD. I knew it was my fingerprints because there was some sort of error message on the screen but it flashed really quick and I couldn't really see what it was. I took the "X" receipt to the nearest CBP officer and he asked me if I knew why I got the "X" so apparently there is no code on the receipt to indicate the problem. Anyway he asked me a couple of questions about cash, food, etc. and then told me I could go. I received an email a few days later asking for feedback about my experience. I provided the feedback and this was part of the reply I received from the Program Manager:
"Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback on the Global Entry program. We apologize for the difficulties that you encountered while using the Global Entry kiosks to enter the United States on February 22, 2010. On this date the kiosk failed to grant you passage, because your fingerprints were not properly recognized; the images captured by the scanner on this date were of poor quality.
We endeavor to improve the quality of the program and are examining alternate means of verifying the identity of program members. In the interim, please ensure that your four fingers are properly placed on the fingerprint scanner when the images are captured. This will allow the scanner to obtain a more accurate image of your fingerprints. We are also making modifications to the system to allow for a second attempt at fingerprint capture, should the first attempt fail."
You may receive a similar email.
"Thank you for taking the time to provide feedback on the Global Entry program. We apologize for the difficulties that you encountered while using the Global Entry kiosks to enter the United States on February 22, 2010. On this date the kiosk failed to grant you passage, because your fingerprints were not properly recognized; the images captured by the scanner on this date were of poor quality.
We endeavor to improve the quality of the program and are examining alternate means of verifying the identity of program members. In the interim, please ensure that your four fingers are properly placed on the fingerprint scanner when the images are captured. This will allow the scanner to obtain a more accurate image of your fingerprints. We are also making modifications to the system to allow for a second attempt at fingerprint capture, should the first attempt fail."
You may receive a similar email.
#1592


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So random question, im thinking about applying due to a recent rise in my international travel. However i noticed on the GE requirements site it says that you may be disqualified due to criminal history, anyone had any problems with this? i have a juvie thing and one minor thing from a couple years back. Never had any problems entering other countries (except Canada which had a problem with my speeding tickets but i got in) been to a total of 10 countries in Europe, Africa, and the middle east in the past year. Im assuming it shouldn't be a problem with GE but just didnt wanna waste $100 if they are super strict....
#1593

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So random question, im thinking about applying due to a recent rise in my international travel. However i noticed on the GE requirements site it says that you may be disqualified due to criminal history, anyone had any problems with this? i have a juvie thing and one minor thing from a couple years back. Never had any problems entering other countries (except Canada which had a problem with my speeding tickets but i got in) been to a total of 10 countries in Europe, Africa, and the middle east in the past year. Im assuming it shouldn't be a problem with GE but just didnt wanna waste $100 if they are super strict....
You might want to consider that your minor issues may not have risen to the level previously that they would come to the attention of the federales. By applying for GE, you guarantee that they will become aware of them, and they may cause you hassles both in connection with routine entries into the US and (potentially) other countries with whom the US exchanges information.
Sure, they could always get access to that information, but that doesn't mean that they have/would in the ordinary course.
Just suggesting that you might want to take a broader look at the implications of applying, as not only might you not receive GE, but your travel experience might get appreciably worse.
Good luck,
Greg
#1594
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Two months later I came through ORD for the first time and the quy at the customs podium took my kiosk card and passport and demanded to see my sticker! I don't know how he thought I could get a kiosk card without being GE. I guess if I hadn't had the sticker, he would have sent me to the back of the customs line.
Must be the same ORD customs guy I went through coming back from NRT a few days ago. I was wondering what this guy is so picky about running through the pages to check if I had a CBP sticker on the back page of my passport. Immigration I'd understand, but customs?
And like I said, it's not like this sticker is made out of space age material or anything.
And like I said, it's not like this sticker is made out of space age material or anything.
Just got my conditional approval notice (about a week after applying).
The notice said to bring proof of "financial solvency" if self employed (which I am).
There was some mention of this back on page 90 or so of this thread but nothing real definite. Are they looking for bank statements (my are all paperless so its just a computer printout), credit cards, car insurance, stack of $100 bills, ???
Any guidance appreciated.
The notice said to bring proof of "financial solvency" if self employed (which I am).
There was some mention of this back on page 90 or so of this thread but nothing real definite. Are they looking for bank statements (my are all paperless so its just a computer printout), credit cards, car insurance, stack of $100 bills, ???
Any guidance appreciated.
So random question, im thinking about applying due to a recent rise in my international travel. However i noticed on the GE requirements site it says that you may be disqualified due to criminal history, anyone had any problems with this? i have a juvie thing and one minor thing from a couple years back. Never had any problems entering other countries (except Canada which had a problem with my speeding tickets but i got in) been to a total of 10 countries in Europe, Africa, and the middle east in the past year. Im assuming it shouldn't be a problem with GE but just didnt wanna waste $100 if they are super strict....
Expungement is also a good option. May I ask what the two minor incidents were and what the disposition of each case was and where they took place? That might help answer your questions.
#1595




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As a follow-up, Mr. M received his conditional approval on Sunday morning, so his application took more like 11 1/2 days.
#1596




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Came in via ORD with no issues at all. Nobody cared about stickers. Only small issue I could see is if you got an X on the kiosk there was nobody manning immigration on the right side (landed at 10:45am before the afternoon rush).
I got the recommendation during my GE interview to rub my fingers on my forehead to make the reader work better.
I got the recommendation during my GE interview to rub my fingers on my forehead to make the reader work better.
#1597
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Just returned to the country through LAX for the first time. Oddly enough after you went through the GE kiosk, they made you wait in the crew/disabled line for the CBP agent to check your sticker and passport. Is this common? Normally I go through DFW and have always just flashed the receipt to an agent standing next to the kiosks.
#1598




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Just returned to the country through LAX for the first time. Oddly enough after you went through the GE kiosk, they made you wait in the crew/disabled line for the CBP agent to check your sticker and passport. Is this common? Normally I go through DFW and have always just flashed the receipt to an agent standing next to the kiosks.
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Just returned to the country through LAX for the first time. Oddly enough after you went through the GE kiosk, they made you wait in the crew/disabled line for the CBP agent to check your sticker and passport. Is this common? Normally I go through DFW and have always just flashed the receipt to an agent standing next to the kiosks.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
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I was wondering about this too. I followed the signs to the GE kiosks back in November and got in line. I then realized that I was in some special line, but it was the only way to access the kiosk. I got to the CBP officer and I said, "Are the GE kiosks open?" He told me they were and I just proceeded to them without showing my passport.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
#1602
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I was wondering about this too. I followed the signs to the GE kiosks back in November and got in line. I then realized that I was in some special line, but it was the only way to access the kiosk. I got to the CBP officer and I said, "Are the GE kiosks open?" He told me they were and I just proceeded to them without showing my passport.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
#1603
Join Date: Nov 2010
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I was wondering about this too. I followed the signs to the GE kiosks back in November and got in line. I then realized that I was in some special line, but it was the only way to access the kiosk. I got to the CBP officer and I said, "Are the GE kiosks open?" He told me they were and I just proceeded to them without showing my passport.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
I don't know if there's a way to access the kiosks at LAX without standing in the crew line. The only other place I've used GE has been at ORD, and those kiosks are in the middle section. You can simply walk into the baggage claim area after you get your receipt.
#1604


Join Date: Apr 2010
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Applied on 2/10, approval came today.
2 questions:
The GOES website says to bring a copy of your "Conditional Approval Notification." On the GOES message inbox page, there is just one line stating, "Your application for the Global Entry Program has been approved." Is this the page I print out and bring to the interview?
The earliest back to back appointments available (doing the family thing) were for 3/8 and we're flying internationally on 3/13. Will we be immediately approved at the interview and in the system?
Thanks.
2 questions:
The GOES website says to bring a copy of your "Conditional Approval Notification." On the GOES message inbox page, there is just one line stating, "Your application for the Global Entry Program has been approved." Is this the page I print out and bring to the interview?
The earliest back to back appointments available (doing the family thing) were for 3/8 and we're flying internationally on 3/13. Will we be immediately approved at the interview and in the system?
Thanks.
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Generally speaking, you have to have a conviction reported in NCIC in order to be rejected by the computer. (You can't lie on the application, though, so if you have a conviction that isn't reported in NCIC, you still have to answer the question as asked). If the disposition was something other than conviction (like supervision, conditional discharge, court diversion, nolle prosequi, etc), it shouldn't be a problem at all. Speeding tickets unless they are criminal in nature (like going 20, 25 or 30 over depending on the jurisdiction) are not problms.
Expungement is also a good option. May I ask what the two minor incidents were and what the disposition of each case was and where they took place? That might help answer your questions.
Expungement is also a good option. May I ask what the two minor incidents were and what the disposition of each case was and where they took place? That might help answer your questions.
The first Was shoplifting as a kid, which I know is 'sealed' but always pops up on through vetting checks I've had to do. The second I'd rather not mention on here but I got a stay of imposition which I believe was that nothing would go on a public record if I paid a fee. Which i did. And of course like 4 speeding tickets, 1 was dropped I am fine just skipping GE as none of these have been issues in the past but if i can expedite customs at all I would love to.

