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cheaptom Jun 15, 2016 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by apeortdz (Post 26783800)
There is a randomness factor about it so it is not guaranteed 100% of the time. Good luck.

See, that is interesting to me, and the very first time I heard that it's not guaranteed. That would make sense and explain things.
But why don't the many AA agents we speak to know about this? They ALWAYS say "Well, I see your TSA number associated with this reservation, so it SHOULD HAVE printed on the pass"

rjw242 Jun 15, 2016 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by cheaptom (Post 26783825)
See, that is interesting to me, and the very first time I heard that it's not guaranteed. That would make sense and explain things.
But why don't the many AA agents we speak to know about this? They ALWAYS say "Well, I see your TSA number associated with this reservation, so it SHOULD HAVE printed on the pass"

Also, in my experience the randomness factor doesn't make it "hit or miss." It means not getting Precheck on my boarding pass once out of several dozen eligible flights, at worst.

Often1 Jun 15, 2016 2:33 pm

I think that OP has simply misheard a lot of things. There is no such thing as a TSA number. He has a Known Traveler Number he obtained through the TSA Pre-Check program.

The most likely reason for OP's problems is that there is a minor mismatch between the name underlying his KTN and the name under which he books his tickets. It can be as simple as an extra space, punctuation mark or a middle initial.

Make sure that you book under the name on your KTN and that any FFP profiles which prefill your tickets are corrected.

SpammersAreScum Jun 15, 2016 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 26783913)
I think that OP has simply misheard a lot of things. There is no such thing as a TSA number. He has a Known Traveler Number he obtained through the TSA Pre-Check program.

The most likely reason for OP's problems is that there is a minor mismatch between the name underlying his KTN and the name under which he books his tickets. It can be as simple as an extra space, punctuation mark or a middle initial.

Make sure that you book under the name on your KTN and that any FFP profiles which prefill your tickets are corrected.

Name mismatch was my first thought, too, but that should have prevented Precheck from displaying when the checkin agent reprinted the BP as well, right?

apeortdz Jun 15, 2016 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum (Post 26783976)
Name mismatch was my first thought, too, but that should have prevented Precheck from displaying when the checkin agent reprinted the BP as well, right?

Yes. Personally, I think the randomness factor just hit you hard and you will be fine going forward.

ThreeJulietTango Jun 15, 2016 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum (Post 26783976)
Name mismatch was my first thought, too, but that should have prevented Precheck from displaying when the checkin agent reprinted the BP as well, right?

It's possible that the agent corrected the Secure Flight data before reprinting the boarding pass, resulting in Pre✓ coming out.

SpammersAreScum Jun 15, 2016 3:17 pm

Hit the OP, that is. Thus far, the Fickle Finger of Fate has missed me; unless you count the time irrops led to my being rebooked on UA and not getting Pre on their BP.

cheaptom Jun 15, 2016 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 26783913)
He has a Known Traveler Number he obtained through the TSA Pre-Check program.

The most likely reason for OP's problems is that there is a minor mismatch between the name underlying his KTN and the name under which he books his tickets. .

Yes, I have a KTN issued by TSA, but generally just call it my TSA number.

I'm looking into the name mismatch thing now, which is very possible. I have three upcoming flights in MY TRIPS. Two of them show my first and last names. The third, booked via my travel company, shows First Middle and Last.
So I click on my name under edit passenger information, and my KTN is blank under the agency reservation, but it's there for my other 2. I add it into the blank one and save it. Go back, and not there. Definitely not letting me assign my KTN to this reservation, even though it's already assigned to my two other flights. A phone call is in my future...

RoadWarrior200 Jun 15, 2016 5:02 pm

Unless I'm mistaken, the randomness issue will arise if you are just counting on the airline flagging long-known customers. If you have a Trusted Traveler number in your individual record, on the other hand, I'm not aware of any randomness at all. The government rightly wants to focus its resources, so if someone who has been finger printed and interviewed and had background checks, etc. from TSA or Global Entry, I'm not aware of any instance wherer TSA Pre won't be granted. Separately, there are random checks of TSA Pre passengers such that if a random beep sounds, they check luggage, etc.

rjw242 Jun 15, 2016 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by RoadWarrior200 (Post 26784581)
The government rightly wants to focus its resources, so if someone who has been finger printed and interviewed and had background checks, etc. from TSA or Global Entry, I'm not aware of any instance wherer TSA Pre won't be granted.

I've been SSSS'd once, in which case PreCheck naturally didn't appear on my BP.

Centurion Jun 15, 2016 5:23 pm

Your not promised Pre-check with known traveler number. I have been SSSS on one leg of a two leg flight with pre-check on the 2nd leg where I can transfer airside to my connection and have no need for security.

BThumme Jun 15, 2016 5:42 pm


Originally Posted by SpammersAreScum (Post 26784176)
Hit the OP, that is. Thus far, the Fickle Finger of Fate has missed me; unless you count the time irrops led to my being rebooked on UA and not getting Pre on their BP.

Same thing, except for me, I was past security already, and got SSSS reprinted on my pass, so at boarding, wasn't allowed to board. Guess who missed that flight to walk back (despite being in the sterile zone) and get the full scrub down.

Always worth a shot to have the agent remove your KTN, then re-apply it and print the pass.

Reetmafreen Jun 15, 2016 6:30 pm

It is possible to reprint a boarding pass at home and "retrieve" the missing pre check notification. Last year I was traveling on WN from SAN to SJC. As it was an in and out on the same day for a 2hr meeting, I decided to forgo the SAN-PHX-SJC routing on AA and opted for the direct WN service. I had booked through my corporate travel agent and I hadn't updated my traveler profile for WN, so the KTN was never sent to WN. I only noticed when I checked in at T-24 that PRE was missing. I called WN customer service and had them add my KTN to the PNR. The agent advised me to reprint the BP and it did indeed have PRE showing on it.

B767capt Jun 15, 2016 6:59 pm

In addition to verifying your KTN number is correct.... Be sure your DOB, Sex and name match the information on your application. It's very important that they match perfectly.

cheaptom Jun 15, 2016 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by Reetmafreen (Post 26784849)
I called WN customer service and had them add my KTN to the PNR. The agent advised me to reprint the BP and it did indeed have PRE showing on it.

Very interesting. Exactly what we tried with AA, and the phone agents could NOT do that. They advised, "you're already checked in and BP was issued, so nothing we can do."

P.S..... Why does AA love sending us to Phoenix even when traveling within CA, lol?
I have to give Southwest a try like you.


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