Global Entry - Dual Citizenship
#16
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Naturalization with Global Entry
Hello, I got my Global Entry 3 years ago while being a US resident with a green card.
I have just been naturalized US citizen but I am not sure what to do as I always used the Global Entry kiosks with my green card.
As I do not have anymore a green card, is my global Entry not valid anymore?
I cannot find a place in their site where to update your citizenship.
Thanks for any help!
I have just been naturalized US citizen but I am not sure what to do as I always used the Global Entry kiosks with my green card.
As I do not have anymore a green card, is my global Entry not valid anymore?
I cannot find a place in their site where to update your citizenship.
Thanks for any help!
#17
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Hello, I got my Global Entry 3 years ago while being a US resident with a green card.
I have just been naturalized US citizen but I am not sure what to do as I always used the Global Entry kiosks with my green card.
As I do not have anymore a green card, is my global Entry not valid anymore?
I cannot find a place in their site where to update your citizenship.
Thanks for any help!
I have just been naturalized US citizen but I am not sure what to do as I always used the Global Entry kiosks with my green card.
As I do not have anymore a green card, is my global Entry not valid anymore?
I cannot find a place in their site where to update your citizenship.
Thanks for any help!
#19
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I'm a dual national and an officer in a foreign military.
Dual citizenship, as noted, is certainly allowed. I was not questioned
about my foreign citizenship ever while leaving or entering the country.
My US passport, as noted, always shows me leaving and returning, but not going anywhere. My other citizenship is actually represented by a passport with no stamps at all as it uses a "fast track" swipe card.
Dual citizenship, as noted, is certainly allowed. I was not questioned
about my foreign citizenship ever while leaving or entering the country.
My US passport, as noted, always shows me leaving and returning, but not going anywhere. My other citizenship is actually represented by a passport with no stamps at all as it uses a "fast track" swipe card.
#20
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 389
For what it's worth, I was just told on the phone by a supervisor at the official GOES support line that, for Global Entry at least, one doesn't have to disclose dual citizenship. (The issue in this case is our new (U.S.-born) baby, who by the laws of another country is technically a dual citizen, but has no documentation from that country that we could provide to prove it.) According to her, "lots of people who have dual citizenship just list their U.S. citizenship", and since GE is a program for admissibility to the U.S., this is fine.
Even so, the thought of not disclosing the other citizenship still makes me very, very nervous.
Even so, the thought of not disclosing the other citizenship still makes me very, very nervous.
#21
Join Date: Jan 2000
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I'm a dual national and an officer in a foreign military.
Dual citizenship, as noted, is certainly allowed. I was not questioned
about my foreign citizenship ever while leaving or entering the country.
My US passport, as noted, always shows me leaving and returning, but not going anywhere. My other citizenship is actually represented by a passport with no stamps at all as it uses a "fast track" swipe card.
Dual citizenship, as noted, is certainly allowed. I was not questioned
about my foreign citizenship ever while leaving or entering the country.
My US passport, as noted, always shows me leaving and returning, but not going anywhere. My other citizenship is actually represented by a passport with no stamps at all as it uses a "fast track" swipe card.
Foolish me. They just overlook that so they can ensure they can be entitled to collect taxes from you on your foreign income.
For what it's worth, I was just told on the phone by a supervisor at the official GOES support line that, for Global Entry at least, one doesn't have to disclose dual citizenship. (The issue in this case is our new (U.S.-born) baby, who by the laws of another country is technically a dual citizen, but has no documentation from that country that we could provide to prove it.) According to her, "lots of people who have dual citizenship just list their U.S. citizenship", and since GE is a program for admissibility to the U.S., this is fine.
Even so, the thought of not disclosing the other citizenship still makes me very, very nervous.
Even so, the thought of not disclosing the other citizenship still makes me very, very nervous.
Suggest you relax some.
#22
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 389
I would love to, but in the declaration at the end of the application, you are asked to certify that the information you have provided in the application is "complete". Granted, the employment history section says "You must list all employers for the past 5 years" while the citizenship section does not say "You must list all citizenships". Rationally I agree with you! But we are dealing with CPB, not known for being a rational entity, and where one misstep (or one thing that an officer believes is a misstep, whether or not it is) can leave you banned from the program for life. So I either want to be pretty darn sure this advice is correct, or else I'll wait a year until I get a citizenship certificate back from the second country.... (Huge processing times for that, apparently.)
#23
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I would love to, but in the declaration at the end of the application, you are asked to certify that the information you have provided in the application is "complete". Granted, the employment history section says "You must list all employers for the past 5 years" while the citizenship section does not say "You must list all citizenships". Rationally I agree with you! But we are dealing with CPB, not known for being a rational entity, and where one misstep (or one thing that an officer believes is a misstep, whether or not it is) can leave you banned from the program for life. So I either want to be pretty darn sure this advice is correct, or else I'll wait a year until I get a citizenship certificate back from the second country.... (Huge processing times for that, apparently.)
You are fretting over something you are not being asked.
#24
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Dual US/German citizen, but German passport expired
I started my GE application on GOES. I have US and German citizenship. I clicked the 'add citizenship' button to add my German citizenship but forgot that my German passport is expired, so I couldn't use it to verify my citizenship in the next application step. It's the only doc I have to verify my German citizenship.
So I figured I'd delete my German citizenship, but when I did that a warning came on the screen saying if I deleted a citizenship I could be denied GE. Not wanting to risk it, I didn't delete my German citizenship from the application.
My new German passport is in process, but could take 4-6 weeks and I'm in a hurry to get conditionally approved as I will have to carefully monitor interview cancellations (at SFO) in order to get final approval before a trip on July 1st.
Any advice? I think I am stuck waiting until my new German passport arrives.
So I figured I'd delete my German citizenship, but when I did that a warning came on the screen saying if I deleted a citizenship I could be denied GE. Not wanting to risk it, I didn't delete my German citizenship from the application.
My new German passport is in process, but could take 4-6 weeks and I'm in a hurry to get conditionally approved as I will have to carefully monitor interview cancellations (at SFO) in order to get final approval before a trip on July 1st.
Any advice? I think I am stuck waiting until my new German passport arrives.
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#28
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What is your reasoning? I am looking for applying. I have Polish and American. I am amazed at how long it takes to get through immigration here in the US compared to the 15 seconds that it takes when I am in Europe. GE would be great...so, disclose, or not?
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