Union Pearson Express: Toronto's New Airport Rail Link
Jun 20, 2015, 1:54 am
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Gotta wonder why cities like NYC are so behind the times. Millennials want to live in cities, not in suburbs. Cities need better public transit connectivity with their airports.
Jun 20, 2015, 2:29 am
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Please. Price is very comparable to other limited-stop express services such as Heathrow Express and Hong Kong Airport Express.
The bus/subway option still exists for those who can't / won't shell out the $$ for UP. Like how the Tube is an alternative for Heathrow. Slower but cheaper.
The bus/subway option still exists for those who can't / won't shell out the $$ for UP. Like how the Tube is an alternative for Heathrow. Slower but cheaper.
Jun 20, 2015, 2:58 am
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who is using Bloor/Dundas stop?
I just rode the N'Ex to NRT last month. Transit time = 1 hour, and transit alternatives (e.g. JR Rail) double that. (I did not have to pay for the tix, as its incl. in the Japan Rail pass!)
By comparison, the UP Express takes 15 minutes and transit alternatives (e.g. TTC to 192) take up to one hour.
My question is this : Who (if anyone) is using the stop at Bloor & Dundas? From that location, the TTC takes much less than one hour! I know a lot of airline employees live near there, so perhaps any of them?
By comparison, the UP Express takes 15 minutes and transit alternatives (e.g. TTC to 192) take up to one hour.
My question is this : Who (if anyone) is using the stop at Bloor & Dundas? From that location, the TTC takes much less than one hour! I know a lot of airline employees live near there, so perhaps any of them?
Jun 20, 2015, 3:22 pm
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The HK Airport Express is about $23 (USD) round trip. Much cheaper than the Pearson option.
http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tickets/tf_index.html
http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tickets/tf_index.html
Jun 21, 2015, 9:31 am
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I never said the time was the same. Merely that the price was similar for the same kind of train. Washrooms, decent seating and luggage areas. Pearson is a lot closer from downtown Toronto (26km) than Narita is from Tokyo station (75km).
I just rode the N'Ex to NRT last month. Transit time = 1 hour, and transit alternatives (e.g. JR Rail) double that. (I did not have to pay for the tix, as its incl. in the Japan Rail pass!)
By comparison, the UP Express takes 15 minutes and transit alternatives (e.g. TTC to 192) take up to one hour.
My question is this : Who (if anyone) is using the stop at Bloor & Dundas? From that location, the TTC takes much less than one hour! I know a lot of airline employees live near there, so perhaps any of them?
By comparison, the UP Express takes 15 minutes and transit alternatives (e.g. TTC to 192) take up to one hour.
My question is this : Who (if anyone) is using the stop at Bloor & Dundas? From that location, the TTC takes much less than one hour! I know a lot of airline employees live near there, so perhaps any of them?
Jun 21, 2015, 4:09 pm
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I rode it for the first time today. Fast, clean, but very expensive and poorly signposted at Pearson.
There are plenty of airports offering the ride for a fraction of the price. E.g. ZRH (CHF 6.60 oneway non stop; ~CAD 9.00), AMS (EUR 4.10 oneway mostly nonstop; ~CAD 6.00), SYD (AUD 17 oneway 3-5 stops, ~CAD 16.50), VIE (EUR 3.60 about 5 stops, ~CAD 5.20), etc.
There are plenty of airports offering the ride for a fraction of the price. E.g. ZRH (CHF 6.60 oneway non stop; ~CAD 9.00), AMS (EUR 4.10 oneway mostly nonstop; ~CAD 6.00), SYD (AUD 17 oneway 3-5 stops, ~CAD 16.50), VIE (EUR 3.60 about 5 stops, ~CAD 5.20), etc.
Jun 21, 2015, 5:45 pm
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I rode it for the first time today. Fast, clean, but very expensive and poorly signposted at Pearson.
There are plenty of airports offering the ride for a fraction of the price. E.g. ZRH (CHF 6.60 oneway non stop; ~CAD 9.00), AMS (EUR 4.10 oneway mostly nonstop; ~CAD 6.00), SYD (AUD 17 oneway 3-5 stops, ~CAD 16.50), VIE (EUR 3.60 about 5 stops, ~CAD 5.20), etc.
There are plenty of airports offering the ride for a fraction of the price. E.g. ZRH (CHF 6.60 oneway non stop; ~CAD 9.00), AMS (EUR 4.10 oneway mostly nonstop; ~CAD 6.00), SYD (AUD 17 oneway 3-5 stops, ~CAD 16.50), VIE (EUR 3.60 about 5 stops, ~CAD 5.20), etc.
Yes, I love the roads in the Netherlands. I wish we could roll those out in a country the size of canada. Same with the trains.
Jun 22, 2015, 3:42 am
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Jun 22, 2015, 4:41 am
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$53 for a roundtrip??? LOL. Yeah, that'll really pack them in.
Sorry if I missed it, but how many billions did this soon to be white elephant cost the taxpayers?
Sorry if I missed it, but how many billions did this soon to be white elephant cost the taxpayers?
Jun 22, 2015, 4:58 am
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Adding a data point that I just had experience with.
280 SEK (~34 USD) one way for the Arlanda Express into Stockholm.
However, I think all of these train services are overpriced, with the exception of the airport express in HKG (which you can check bags too!)
280 SEK (~34 USD) one way for the Arlanda Express into Stockholm.
However, I think all of these train services are overpriced, with the exception of the airport express in HKG (which you can check bags too!)
Jun 22, 2015, 5:07 am
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RTA in Cleveland: airport to downtown (Public Square, Ritz-Carlton), 20km and 20 minutes for $2.25.
Jun 22, 2015, 6:45 am
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but for all your rich Americans, that would be US$31 and US$26
gohima HKG express Rt is about 28CAD$ with current fx.
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects...upexpress.aspx
budget figures here.
sorry, but they should pay you to go to Cleveland. what is the cost of the train to the city centre in dever. just curious.
but then again, i would find it money well spent versus on a luxury barge in france. but that's just poor me.
Jun 22, 2015, 6:48 am
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Jun 22, 2015, 6:59 am
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given f/x, the UP express was about 1/6th of the cost. Elephant you say?
it looks like 2.2B US is the price for A, G and B. but only A is shown. Is there more lines?
[when it comes to wasting money, our government just cancels power plant construction...]
Last edited by mkjr; Jun 22, 2015 at 7:06 am Reason: question about actual lines in denver
Jun 22, 2015, 7:17 am
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I see. Seems like the low cost means the tax payers subsidized the construction.
given f/x, the UP express was about 1/6th of the cost. Elephant you say?
it looks like 2.2B US is the price for A, G and B. but only A is shown. Is there more lines?
[when it comes to wasting money, our government just cancels power plant construction...]
given f/x, the UP express was about 1/6th of the cost. Elephant you say?
it looks like 2.2B US is the price for A, G and B. but only A is shown. Is there more lines?
[when it comes to wasting money, our government just cancels power plant construction...]
And we all know there is some ridiculous things going on there, such as paying GTAA back about $2 in lieu of lost parking revenue. (source: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014..._parking.html; and there are many more articles out there)
I'm a as patriotic as any one else but lets keep this argument on the facts