Kachjc

the CX business seat and the BA first seat are not that different! And the CX product is 4 years old.

That should clearly tell you that CX>>>>>>>BA

aireuropa0657

Don't quite get what you're trying to say here... I guess you mean BA's business class is not that different from that of Cathay? And are you trying to say that the CX product is aging

Based on all this why are you saying CX is much better than BA?

stevie

One way of reading it

The CX J seat is 4 years old, but not far off the newer BA F seat. CX is superior to the BA J offering in my opinion. This is due to the seat mainly.

freakinflyer001

aireuropa0657 Mate you must be having a laugh here... The CX Cirrus seat is widely considered as one of the best J product in the market

Plus I personally really don't like the idea of a rear facing seat as in BA's CW, it feels extremely awkward during take off

aireuropa0657

sorry guys if I sounded like a massive idiot... have not been fortunate enough to do many business class trips, so not really up to date in this field.

thanks for all the info!

Calchas

Not at all, everyone is entitled to his opinion. I actually prefer to face backwards when travelling, on the train or on the plane, and I enjoy looking down on the engines and the runway with a glass of Taittinger in hand during the climb out. Best part of the flight in my opinion. ^ ^

aireuropa0657

Soory for the late reply calchas! I imagine facing backwards on a plane would be quite an experience!

Kagehitokiri

not demanding cash/credit is why they will try to weasel out like this

you did not receive premium product you booked

paulwuk

LOL

No

Ba Business was groundbreaking 15 years ago when it was first introduced. I still like it to be honest, and I like the novelty of flying backwards.

However comparing BA First with anything other than other carriers business is a lesson in embarrassment. Even the U.S. Carriers have surpassed it now, but try comparing something like CX, EK, SQ Firsts with BA and you'll find no comparison at all.

Here's a BA First class trip report
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...lth-class.html

mike&co

Great TR, some great pics too, that cockpit looks impressive ✈️

freakinflyer001

To say that I didn't receive a premium product just because of a disappointing breakfast would be harsh

The crew was fantastic throughout the flight

Kachjc

so much for poor performance...
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/eu..._133976169.htm

CX looking to go daily.

Calchas

"Launched last December, the service is the only non-stop link outside of London to China, and it is already proving to be a success with travelers in the North of England and Scotland."
Bit of a stretch there

I'll be interested to see if the LBA-LHR BA shuttle is still packed full of Chinese students* connecting to CX at the end of this academic term.

* Well that's what I presume they are!

Kachjc

why is it a stretch?
CX codeshares with flybe to Scotland so they would know how many passengers are flying there...

I can't imagine an airline with a record of adding destinations at a slow cautious pace would suddenly change their business plan and cater it towards low yield students...

this route is also for more O and D space on the LHR flights as CX can't expand there...
LHR was at 99% load factor in August- aka CX was turning potential customers away

Calchas

I am aware there are codeshares to Scotland and IOM on CX*BE. But given that BE is buy-on-board, and BA is obliged to offer foreign airlines cheap domestic connections, I think it is more likely folks will be on the BA flight to LON and then catch the CX flight from there. But I do not have the numbers to say.

As for the students—I have seen them regularly for a while on the BA shuttle to/from LBA at the term start and finish, and I don't think they are low yielding. Educating wealthy foreigners is big business in the UK. From the conversations I've had quite a few I see are connecting onto CX business class. But this is anecdotal and I may be mistaken in drawing a conclusion.

My curiosity is merely whether traffic will be drawn away form LBA to MAN if there is a direct service to HKG.