Designated Overhead Space
#46
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I figured that out several years ago. Lot easier to stop at a CVS or Walgreens than to worry about stuff spilling out etc. All I take is Clothes & my laptop/work.
#47




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This happened to me a few months back, was on a week long trip so I had checked a bag and had my computer bag overhead in UA E+. The plane fills up, one of the last people onboard brought in a bag that was to big to fit under his seat, which was at least 10 rows back. The FA asked me if I would take my bag out and put it under my seat so he could have my space. I answered that I would, as one *must* comply with the FA, however, I'd also like a complaint form brought to me so I could pass along my displeasure in being penalized for another's actions.
The FA wasn't too happy with me and made a couple of snide comments before finding other space for the bag. After she left, my seat mate congratulated me and we had a nice chat about the joys of Freakwent flying.
Cheers,
Jeff
The FA wasn't too happy with me and made a couple of snide comments before finding other space for the bag. After she left, my seat mate congratulated me and we had a nice chat about the joys of Freakwent flying.
Cheers,
Jeff
What was wrong with a pax near him, ie, row across or directly in front or back doing it?
Unbelievable.
#48




Join Date: Jun 2006
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The way things are these days with liquids, if you are travelling for more than a few days, you'll probably be packing more liquids than you can get in the little plastic bag, and so checking a bag anyway - why would you then want to carry more than you have to onboard?
1. Less risk of your bag being lost, delayed, or stolen.
2. If you avoid checking any bags, you do not have to wait at the baggage carousel.
3. If you avoid checking any bags, you have more options for doing standby, rebooking, etc..
If you are staying in a hotel, shampoo, conditioner, and soap are generally provided. For toothpaste, bring the small sample tubes that the dentist gives you at checkups. That will keep your liquids under the liquid limits, so you will not have to check bags solely due to the liquid limits.
#49
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Leisure traveler here (never traveled for business, never will)
When Mr HBB and I travel, we never check anything.....we put both 22' bags in overhead bin, anything else under our seats. The chaos of boarding, sitting in way less space then needed, and chaos of unloading will continue....just give in to the madness......and breathe.....
my .02$
When Mr HBB and I travel, we never check anything.....we put both 22' bags in overhead bin, anything else under our seats. The chaos of boarding, sitting in way less space then needed, and chaos of unloading will continue....just give in to the madness......and breathe.....
my .02$
#51

Join Date: Mar 2004
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Well I do believe that CHARGING for overhead space may be inevitable. Many people never believed the airlines would charge for Baggage, Food, Blankets etc. But they do now !!!
So charging for Overhead BIN space may be the next big revenue idea. Then if you cant put it in the floor in front of you, KaChing, please deposit more $$$ please.
So far it seems the FF's here have a certain ARROGANCE about "I am a FF & I get to do what I want". Overall something FAIR needs to be done.
So charging for Overhead BIN space may be the next big revenue idea. Then if you cant put it in the floor in front of you, KaChing, please deposit more $$$ please.
So far it seems the FF's here have a certain ARROGANCE about "I am a FF & I get to do what I want". Overall something FAIR needs to be done.
Of course, they won't charge the elites for this, if they do implement the policy. Fair? People who spend more with a given business get more perks than those who don't. Many would consider that fair. Those who do not frequent the business but still want all the perks apparently do not.
Cheers.
Cheers.
The biggest and best solution to this problem is to STOP CHARGING NON FFs FOR THE FIRST BAG TO BE CHECKED.
After the implementation of the "no liquid rule" the overhead space was always wide open. There was plenty of space because a big percentage of people didn't want to mess with ziplocks and such. When the airlines started charging the masses for checking bags all of a sudden the bins filled back up again. Make the cases free to check and then most won't be up in the overhead bin to start with.
After the implementation of the "no liquid rule" the overhead space was always wide open. There was plenty of space because a big percentage of people didn't want to mess with ziplocks and such. When the airlines started charging the masses for checking bags all of a sudden the bins filled back up again. Make the cases free to check and then most won't be up in the overhead bin to start with.
Currently the conversation at check-in goes like this:
GA: I'm afraid I will have to charge you for the second checked bag.
Pax: That's outrageous. In that case I'll take it as hand luggage.
How much better for all concerned if it went like this:
GA: Here's your label for the one piece of hand luggage you are allowed. Oh, you have more pieces... that will be $xx per piece unless you check them.
Pax: That's outrageous. In that case I'll check this and this.
Hmm, that's a bit backward - airlines are starting to charge for checked bags, not only because it is a source of revenue, but also to discourage people to check bags, which has the twin benefits of reducing their ground handling costs and turn-around times.
I have to say, I have rarely seen this become a major issue in Europe, and am shocked everytime I fly in the States at the size of carry-ons that people bring (and are allowed!). Perhaps the simplest solution is simply to reduce carry-on size limits. The way things are these days with liquids, if you are travelling for more than a few days, you'll probably be packing more liquids than you can get in the little plastic bag, and so checking a bag anyway - why would you then want to carry more than you have to onboard?
I have to say, I have rarely seen this become a major issue in Europe, and am shocked everytime I fly in the States at the size of carry-ons that people bring (and are allowed!). Perhaps the simplest solution is simply to reduce carry-on size limits. The way things are these days with liquids, if you are travelling for more than a few days, you'll probably be packing more liquids than you can get in the little plastic bag, and so checking a bag anyway - why would you then want to carry more than you have to onboard?
I'm all for this. I am no longer a frequent flyer so I don't have the privileges I used to have. I HATE carting my suitcase around and would prefer to check it. My $30 can be better spent elsewhere, so now my bag is in the overhead taking up space. When it was free, I never, ever put anything in the overhead--just put a purse and backpack under the seat in front of me.
All very valid. Why don't airlines realise that they are begging pax to take everything on board?
#52


Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
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I must say, this thread has answered so many questions for me about where our society is. People complain about poor service, staff not being friendly or hard-working etc but from what I've read it seems neither are some pax!
It's been my experience that the business pax are just as bad as leisure pax about stowing baggage. They throw their bag sideways, throw in their little bag, take out their laptop and take their seats with NO regard for the way they used the space. I can't believe the egocentricity I see on the daily basis. All of this "I don't care if it's fair." "I earned it..."
Did YOU buy your tickets... or was it your company, because I'm sure those leisure pax with no place to stow their bags bought their own tickets out of pocket and to me they are just as entitled to the bin space as anyone else.
This attitude that people seem to carry around that they are the ONLY ones in the world seems to be eating away at the little that's left of our manners in today's society. Does it really impose on people to be kind or courteous to others? Is it so much to ask? Would you not want someone to do the same for you?
All airline have rules and regs and in terms of boarding and stowing luggage, if people would actually listen to announcements made by cabin crew instead of ignoring us then we might just be able to accommodate everyone's belongings.
Just today I was serving some business pax, going through offering beverages with a smile on my face (as usual) and when asking, "Sir/Miss can I offer you something to drink?" I get this evil stare and they wave me off with the hand. If they're sleeping and I try to gently wake them to offer something I get the same annoyed look and if I skip past without waking people then they ring the bell so say "Um, I was skipped, I need a Coke!" ...No... I didn't miss you, you missed ME.
Even being nice proves difficult and sometimes leaves me wondering WHAT emotion or attitude people are expecting from me! These days it seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Please remember that the plane IS public transportation and that while I certainly don't expect you to allow anyone to encroach on your seat space; the overhead bin space is shared space and purposefully being a hog, being rude about it, acting as though you're entitled to more (as seems common these days) just goes to show that we have all but lost our sense of grace. People talk about the "good ole days" of flying... I can assure you, these over-inflated self-entitled rude, egotistical attitudes weren't part of the experience.
*To those who ARE kind, courteous and appreciative of service, THANK YOU! YOU make me want to work harder. Today I was going through collecting refuse and this man dug ALL of his snack wrappers out of his seatback pocket. I was SHOCKED so jokingly I told him "You're hired! I really appreciate you taking all of that out!" He simply said, 'Well of course, I'm the one who put it there." WOW.... it's sad that this moment made me smile... something so simple that we all should do.
It's been my experience that the business pax are just as bad as leisure pax about stowing baggage. They throw their bag sideways, throw in their little bag, take out their laptop and take their seats with NO regard for the way they used the space. I can't believe the egocentricity I see on the daily basis. All of this "I don't care if it's fair." "I earned it..."
Did YOU buy your tickets... or was it your company, because I'm sure those leisure pax with no place to stow their bags bought their own tickets out of pocket and to me they are just as entitled to the bin space as anyone else.
This attitude that people seem to carry around that they are the ONLY ones in the world seems to be eating away at the little that's left of our manners in today's society. Does it really impose on people to be kind or courteous to others? Is it so much to ask? Would you not want someone to do the same for you?
All airline have rules and regs and in terms of boarding and stowing luggage, if people would actually listen to announcements made by cabin crew instead of ignoring us then we might just be able to accommodate everyone's belongings.
Just today I was serving some business pax, going through offering beverages with a smile on my face (as usual) and when asking, "Sir/Miss can I offer you something to drink?" I get this evil stare and they wave me off with the hand. If they're sleeping and I try to gently wake them to offer something I get the same annoyed look and if I skip past without waking people then they ring the bell so say "Um, I was skipped, I need a Coke!" ...No... I didn't miss you, you missed ME.
Even being nice proves difficult and sometimes leaves me wondering WHAT emotion or attitude people are expecting from me! These days it seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Please remember that the plane IS public transportation and that while I certainly don't expect you to allow anyone to encroach on your seat space; the overhead bin space is shared space and purposefully being a hog, being rude about it, acting as though you're entitled to more (as seems common these days) just goes to show that we have all but lost our sense of grace. People talk about the "good ole days" of flying... I can assure you, these over-inflated self-entitled rude, egotistical attitudes weren't part of the experience.
*To those who ARE kind, courteous and appreciative of service, THANK YOU! YOU make me want to work harder. Today I was going through collecting refuse and this man dug ALL of his snack wrappers out of his seatback pocket. I was SHOCKED so jokingly I told him "You're hired! I really appreciate you taking all of that out!" He simply said, 'Well of course, I'm the one who put it there." WOW.... it's sad that this moment made me smile... something so simple that we all should do.
#53
Join Date: Jul 2008
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CABNcrew, thank you very much for your post. I couldn't have said it better myself. I especially enjoyed this:
Did YOU buy your tickets... or was it your company, because I'm sure those leisure pax with no place to stow their bags bought their own tickets out of pocket and to me they are just as entitled to the bin space as anyone else.
#54
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Personally, I fit into both categories as I AM my company and every dollar I spend on airfare is pretty much out of my pocket.
#55
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#56
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I used to envy those who got free upgrades and always sat in first or had an exit row. Then I became a FF and got the perks and envied those who didn't have to travel two or three times a week. You flew the miles so you definitely earned the perks regardless of who footed the bill for the ticket.
Now I no longer have FF status *cough* GROUP 6 *cough*, but am still that guy boarding after the last person in first. You just have to look like you are PLATINUM or EXECPLAT. Well, your boarding pass does anyway.
Now I no longer have FF status *cough* GROUP 6 *cough*, but am still that guy boarding after the last person in first. You just have to look like you are PLATINUM or EXECPLAT. Well, your boarding pass does anyway.

