Easing of uk hand baggage restrictions
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Originally Posted by mrdini
If the bit about Ryanair is true, it seems a bit ironic given how vocal Ryanair was against the recent security measurements.
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Ditto. Still can't bring that nice duty free with me though (can't get it airside UK) It would also be nice to be allowed a 2nd small bag/personal items.
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I flew LH from Man to FRa a couple of weks ago and the size of luggage you can take on board was mail box size and they were enforcing it big style, the security staff at MAN seem to be on mission right now as they are lackig fire power but use their voices instead to humiliate people who dont understand what the rules are. I even had to check in my suit carrier which is ultralight with a very expensive suit inside, luckily it came out all OK at TPE
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Originally Posted by mrdini
If the bit about Ryanair is true, it seems a bit ironic given how vocal Ryanair was against the recent security measurements.
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Originally Posted by osamede
Well anyone who would fly Ryanair deserves it. Those guys are so contemptous of their customers, it is not even funny. Its only a matter of time before they come out with a scheme where you buy a ticket and then you incur an additional fee if you actually turn up to fly! Its the only thing left that they dont do!
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Report on my connection through LHR this morning (24 Sept)
Toting my newly purchased bag, exactly 56 cm x whatever it is, I flew PHL-LHR (BA 66) last night and am sitting in the T1 First lounge now. Security and boarding in PHL was no problem for the BA flight, as usual--by the time these flights leave, the terminal is nearly deserted. I put my bag through the X-ray machine and no one opened it--a completely opposite experience from my PHL-ORD flight from the same terminal earlier in the week, when my tiny overnight bag was practically examined with a microscope. So far so good.
Then we arrived at LHR, where I had to transfer from T4 to T1. From the time we touched down in LHR at 8:20 AM, it took fully 90 minutes before I entered the lounge at T1. (And it was only that quick because for once, we did not have to sit on the aircraft for 45 minutes after landing waiting for a stand and then a bus.) The queue for security at T1--actually, three of them, because we had to line up first at the bottom of the escalators, then at the top of the escalators, and then at the X-ray machines--was absolutely unbelievable. Only at the third and last queue was there a "Fast Track" (and I use that term with great irony) for CW and F passengers.
Meanwhile, the baggage size restriction, as well as the one-bag restriction, appears to have been pretty much thrown out the window. Apparently, I didn't need to buy that new smaller bag, which is mildly infuriating. The guy ahead of me in the X-ray line had a huge, overstuffed bag that looked to measure at least 45 cm in both width and depth, not to mention well longer than 56 cm. His companion had a standard 22" rollaboard plus another bag. There were no checks at all on bag sizing, nor did I see any bags being inspected at all. The lines were so staggering that if anyone had been stopped for a full inspection, it would have caused a riot, I think.
All in all I am somewhat horrified by the continuing mess at LHR, six weeks after the liquids ban came into force. It is astonishing to me that BAA cannot get their act together to speed the transfer process in any way. If my connection time had been less than 2.5 hours, I would have missed my flight. I am seriously reconsidering my plans to connect through LHR for my next trip--even though I have a reasonable layover of 3.5 hours, and don't think I'll miss my flight, the nightmare of endless queues is starting to seem really, really not worth it.
Then we arrived at LHR, where I had to transfer from T4 to T1. From the time we touched down in LHR at 8:20 AM, it took fully 90 minutes before I entered the lounge at T1. (And it was only that quick because for once, we did not have to sit on the aircraft for 45 minutes after landing waiting for a stand and then a bus.) The queue for security at T1--actually, three of them, because we had to line up first at the bottom of the escalators, then at the top of the escalators, and then at the X-ray machines--was absolutely unbelievable. Only at the third and last queue was there a "Fast Track" (and I use that term with great irony) for CW and F passengers.
Meanwhile, the baggage size restriction, as well as the one-bag restriction, appears to have been pretty much thrown out the window. Apparently, I didn't need to buy that new smaller bag, which is mildly infuriating. The guy ahead of me in the X-ray line had a huge, overstuffed bag that looked to measure at least 45 cm in both width and depth, not to mention well longer than 56 cm. His companion had a standard 22" rollaboard plus another bag. There were no checks at all on bag sizing, nor did I see any bags being inspected at all. The lines were so staggering that if anyone had been stopped for a full inspection, it would have caused a riot, I think.
All in all I am somewhat horrified by the continuing mess at LHR, six weeks after the liquids ban came into force. It is astonishing to me that BAA cannot get their act together to speed the transfer process in any way. If my connection time had been less than 2.5 hours, I would have missed my flight. I am seriously reconsidering my plans to connect through LHR for my next trip--even though I have a reasonable layover of 3.5 hours, and don't think I'll miss my flight, the nightmare of endless queues is starting to seem really, really not worth it.
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Thanks for the warning on LHR. Since our last nightmare when we almost missed a connection (even though our inbound landed on time and we had 2 hours layover), I've vowed never to book a connection through there again. And that was in February before the new insanity. My boss is based in London so I sort of have to fly there once in awhile.
He's coming into the US next week; it will be interesting to hear how his departure went.
He's coming into the US next week; it will be interesting to hear how his departure went.
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Originally Posted by Athena53
Thanks for the warning on LHR. Since our last nightmare when we almost missed a connection (even though our inbound landed on time and we had 2 hours layover), I've vowed never to book a connection through there again. And that was in February before the new insanity. My boss is based in London so I sort of have to fly there once in awhile.
He's coming into the US next week; it will be interesting to hear how his departure went.
He's coming into the US next week; it will be interesting to hear how his departure went.
Inter-terminal transfer at LHR has always been aggravating, especially in the last three years or so, but now it is just beyond the pale. The minute I get above 1500 tier points, I'm done with it until BAA figures out how to run things.
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Originally Posted by travelmad478
I have a feeling that check-in and security coming in from outside will be a lot quicker than the inter-terminal transfer (esp. since the benefits of first-class check-in and the security fast track tend to be much more meaningful at that entrance).
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I flew YYZ/LHR/CPH on Friday/Saturday.
New size restrictions made the flight more comfortable for me (I need lots of stuff to be comfortable on a plane.)
Air Canada would not issue our SAS boarding passes despite checking the bags through to CPH. And there was only 1 hour between flights (which were bought after the latest scares and rules.)
Luckily, there was a concierge at the door of our plane. And we were flying J. She abandoned the celebrity we assume she was greeting, and got us through security. Yes, Security. Despite the fact that we weren't changing terminals, we had to go through security. And the 150 people we cut in front of weren't pleased.
They didn't bat an eye at our bags even though we both had the liquids from the in-flight amenities kit. I did make a show of taking the water bottle out of my bag.
So even if you aren't changing terminals in LHR make sure you have a backup plan because it is a mess and airlines (at least AC) are still acting as if everything is fine.
BTW: Air Canada's email to us inviting us to check in online had incorrect carry-on size information.
New size restrictions made the flight more comfortable for me (I need lots of stuff to be comfortable on a plane.)
Air Canada would not issue our SAS boarding passes despite checking the bags through to CPH. And there was only 1 hour between flights (which were bought after the latest scares and rules.)
Luckily, there was a concierge at the door of our plane. And we were flying J. She abandoned the celebrity we assume she was greeting, and got us through security. Yes, Security. Despite the fact that we weren't changing terminals, we had to go through security. And the 150 people we cut in front of weren't pleased.
They didn't bat an eye at our bags even though we both had the liquids from the in-flight amenities kit. I did make a show of taking the water bottle out of my bag.
So even if you aren't changing terminals in LHR make sure you have a backup plan because it is a mess and airlines (at least AC) are still acting as if everything is fine.
BTW: Air Canada's email to us inviting us to check in online had incorrect carry-on size information.
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Originally Posted by travelmad478
Apparently, I didn't need to buy that new smaller bag, which is mildly infuriating.
The mere fact that you might have got away with something that was over the limit doesn't change that fact.
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Originally Posted by KathrynInCanada
She abandoned the celebrity we assume she was greeting, and got us through security. Yes, Security. Despite the fact that we weren't changing terminals, we had to go through security.
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Originally Posted by osamede
Well anyone who would fly Ryanair deserves it. Those guys are so contemptous of their customers, it is not even funny. Its only a matter of time before they come out with a scheme where you buy a ticket and then you incur an additional fee if you actually turn up to fly! Its the only thing left that they dont do!
BUT during all this palaver with changing hand luggage restrictions Ryanair have been charging people several GBP for any bags they have to check because of the restrictions even if they'd booked before 10th August (Ryanair charge for checking luggage)
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
The current maximum DfT size is the same as BA's maximum permitted cabin baggage size, anyway (from before the current security kerfuffle). So yes, if you previously had oversized cabin baggage, you would have needed to buy a new one anyway.
The mere fact that you might have got away with something that was over the limit doesn't change that fact.
The mere fact that you might have got away with something that was over the limit doesn't change that fact.