moving to america
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Originally Posted by da_guy
High taxes, hatred of religion, embrace of gay marriage, hatred of military, blame America for everything wrong in the world...as a Brit the OP will feel at home I think.
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Travel from red to blue and back
Originally Posted by da_guy
High taxes, hatred of religion, embrace of gay marriage, hatred of military, blame America for everything wrong in the world...as a Brit the OP will feel at home I think.
Hey, wait a sec! I said:
Red = communist, oh, wait, right wing (Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc.)
(The communist part being a joke.)
I guess you take offense at right wing being equated with Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc. Since when are those offensive?
I may have been over-generalizing by equating right wing with evangelical Christian, sorry.
By the way, I'm from a blue state and I'm all for religion. State religion. Atheism.
(That means I'm kidding).
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Originally Posted by underpressure
OK, you opened the door, if that is red, what is blue?
Edit: Please don't take offense. Pretty please. This applies to my previous posts. Try and guess my political leanings.
Last edited by ralfp; Jun 22, 2005 at 9:04 pm
#20
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dark blood... before coming to America, I suggest you spend more time reading the Omni forum here. It's a lot like your post has just become. You may just want to relax, ignore the hijacking, and stay put...
But if you really want to continue, there's only 2 legal ways -- get married to a U.S. citizen or get a work sponsored visa.
But if you really want to continue, there's only 2 legal ways -- get married to a U.S. citizen or get a work sponsored visa.
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Dark Blood, I recently looked very seriously into moving to the US.
The easiest way into the US is via a fiancees visa. You will of course have to satisfy all the rigorous checks placed on this kind of visa and should the relationship break down your visa will be revoked within a certain number of years. Don't enter into this lightly though, it does require some sacrifices.
The other way, the one I persued was a work visa. My company very kindly offered to transfer me to our office in Orlando, but again there are rigorous checks i.e. can an American satisfy the job spec. The bonus with this over the fiancees visa is parole, you can come and go as you please through immigration (I believe?). With a fiancees visa there are restrictions, and you may need to apply to leave the country otherwise your green card application may have to be started over. Of course, finding someone to sponsor your visa maybe a problem as they are quite expensive, you would have to be a worthwhile candidate for the job.
In fact, don't bet on either route being cheap.
If you're keen to live in the US I would strongly recommend spending some (a lot) of time there, it's not everyone's cup of tea. For me, the decision not to go to Orlando was kinda helped along by the four hurricanes that blitzed Florida so my fiancee and I reside in the UK for the time being.
Also, there are a number of ex-pat websites out there.
The easiest way into the US is via a fiancees visa. You will of course have to satisfy all the rigorous checks placed on this kind of visa and should the relationship break down your visa will be revoked within a certain number of years. Don't enter into this lightly though, it does require some sacrifices.
The other way, the one I persued was a work visa. My company very kindly offered to transfer me to our office in Orlando, but again there are rigorous checks i.e. can an American satisfy the job spec. The bonus with this over the fiancees visa is parole, you can come and go as you please through immigration (I believe?). With a fiancees visa there are restrictions, and you may need to apply to leave the country otherwise your green card application may have to be started over. Of course, finding someone to sponsor your visa maybe a problem as they are quite expensive, you would have to be a worthwhile candidate for the job.
In fact, don't bet on either route being cheap.
If you're keen to live in the US I would strongly recommend spending some (a lot) of time there, it's not everyone's cup of tea. For me, the decision not to go to Orlando was kinda helped along by the four hurricanes that blitzed Florida so my fiancee and I reside in the UK for the time being.
Also, there are a number of ex-pat websites out there.
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Originally Posted by ralfp
[I assume this description of the blue states is in response to my comment]
Hey, wait a sec! I said:
Red = communist, oh, wait, right wing (Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc.)
(The communist part being a joke.)
I guess you take offense at right wing being equated with Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc. Since when are those offensive?
I may have been over-generalizing by equating right wing with evangelical Christian, sorry.
By the way, I'm from a blue state and I'm all for religion. State religion. Atheism.
(That means I'm kidding).
Hey, wait a sec! I said:
Red = communist, oh, wait, right wing (Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc.)
(The communist part being a joke.)
I guess you take offense at right wing being equated with Republican, conservative, evangelical Christian, etc. etc. Since when are those offensive?
I may have been over-generalizing by equating right wing with evangelical Christian, sorry.
By the way, I'm from a blue state and I'm all for religion. State religion. Atheism.
(That means I'm kidding).But this is definitely a good way to try to win more votes, insult the people you are trying to win over....good plan, it's been very effective so far.
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Originally Posted by RBCal
Yes, it is expensive. My workplace makes the person applying for a visa pay for the lawyer for all the paperwork (unless they really, really want the person). The cost for this can be as much as $5000
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Originally Posted by USA_flyer
I was informed that they're not legally allowed to pass that cost onto the applicant. I was also informed that the visa cost is $1500 so some lawyer is making a lot of money on that deal!
As to legal fees, the employer can do so, as the use of a lawyer to process this stuff is not required -- but highly desireable.
(RBCal...thx for the Omni heads-up... I thought newbies could at least read it!)
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There is one other way to get a work visa is through the Green Card Lottery. Every year they offer 50,000 work visas through a lottery. However, you have to be from an eligible country and I don't think the UK is since countries that have sent more than 50,000 immigrants over the last five years are excluded. Northern Ireland is included in the lottery as well as Australia. I think UK citizens can easily get Australian citizenship? This would be a very round-about way though and would take several years.
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Originally Posted by RBCal
Northern Ireland is included in the lottery as well as Australia. I think UK citizens can easily get Australian citizenship? This would be a very round-about way though and would take several years.

