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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mlbcard
Those are cool... how did you get it, they seem to be illegal in US, UK, and EU (unless you are a government or research organization)?
It's a Federal Misdemeanor here in the US.

Not only are they illegal to sell or own BUT using one will get you a nice long stay at the nearest federal facility as well as a slew of charges related to interfering with an emergency service.

Those blockers don't just interfere with the cellphone you are pissed off about. They kill the cellphones for a good distance away. If someone else was making a 911 call from down the street or from a car, they'd be cut off because of the jammer.

From the FCC website:

FCC Website on Jammers...

Operations
Blocking & Jamming

The operation of transmitters designed to jam or block wireless communications is a violation of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"). See 47 U.S.C. Sections 301, 302a, 333. The Act prohibits any person from willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. government. 47 U.S.C. Section 333. The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b). Parties in violation of these provisions may be subject to the penalties set out in 47 U.S.C. Sections 501-510. Fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. government.

Sec 501 of US Code Ch 47

From ths US Code:

Sec. 501. General penalty

Any person who willfully and knowingly does or causes or suffers to be done any act, matter, or thing, in this chapter prohibited or declared to be unlawful, or who willfully and knowingly omits or fails to do any act, matter, or thing in this chapter required to be done, or willfully and knowingly causes or suffers such omission or failure, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for such offense, for which no penalty (other than a forfeiture) is provided in this chapter, by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both; except that any person, having been once convicted of an offense punishable under this section, who is subsequently convicted of violating any provision of this chapter punishable under this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or both.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 8:59 pm
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"It seems the travelers were on a subway and one woman had her wallet stolen. Of course, before getting on the subway she had taken a cheap wallet and glued razor blades to the edges, and then left it where it could be seen inside an open purse. They had apparently been able to see and hear the pickpocket howl in pain as he hit the sidewalk running."
^
OMG, That rules! I'd try that if I wasn't afraid of getting bled on


Yeah, I wouldn't mind having a cell phone jammer myself for REAL.

People just don't no idea how rude they are in some peoples eyes blabbing off on their phones in public all the time. Can't it wait? I wouldn't do that unless it was seriously important.
I have a friend with a tattoo shop and there are "no Cell Phone" signs left and right. Plus an obvious display of a smashed up phone and some clever warning and people still feel the right/need to phone away, litterally 1 foot from a graphic request to obstain. And don't even get me started about the phoning drivers. Blooming idiots.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by mlbcard
Those are cool... how did you get it, they seem to be illegal in US, UK, and EU (unless you are a government or research organization)?
Easy, just ordered on the company website, they shipped right to me in the U.S., DHL Next Day Air even. I think they pust "testing equipment" or something on the customs invoice.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mid
It's a Federal Misdemeanor here in the US.

Not only are they illegal to sell or own BUT using one will get you a nice long stay at the nearest federal facility as well as a slew of charges related to interfering with an emergency service.

Those blockers don't just interfere with the cellphone you are pissed off about. They kill the cellphones for a good distance away. If someone else was making a 911 call from down the street or from a car, they'd be cut off because of the jammer.

From the FCC website:

FCC Website on Jammers...

Operations
Blocking & Jamming

The operation of transmitters designed to jam or block wireless communications is a violation of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"). See 47 U.S.C. Sections 301, 302a, 333. The Act prohibits any person from willfully or maliciously interfering with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. government. 47 U.S.C. Section 333. The manufacture, importation, sale or offer for sale, including advertising, of devices designed to block or jam wireless transmissions is prohibited. 47 U.S.C. Section 302a(b). Parties in violation of these provisions may be subject to the penalties set out in 47 U.S.C. Sections 501-510. Fines for a first offense can range as high as $11,000 for each violation or imprisonment for up to one year, and the device used may also be seized and forfeited to the U.S. government.

Sec 501 of US Code Ch 47

From ths US Code:

Sec. 501. General penalty

Any person who willfully and knowingly does or causes or suffers to be done any act, matter, or thing, in this chapter prohibited or declared to be unlawful, or who willfully and knowingly omits or fails to do any act, matter, or thing in this chapter required to be done, or willfully and knowingly causes or suffers such omission or failure, shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for such offense, for which no penalty (other than a forfeiture) is provided in this chapter, by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both; except that any person, having been once convicted of an offense punishable under this section, who is subsequently convicted of violating any provision of this chapter punishable under this section, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, or both.
The handheld unit that I have will only knock out a couple of rooms around my home, so I don't thinkg the range is strong enough to interfere with someone outside of your general area. (They do sell more powerfull ones though)

Your right about them being illegal (as I stated in my post), but I'll share this quote from an article I read before I purchased mine:

"In the United States, actively jamming a cell-phone signal is illegal. The FCC, which is the government agency in charge of regulating the airwaves, has established severe penalties for doing so. If you're caught at your local restaurant with the SH066PL2A/B, it's possible you could face an $11,000 fine and a one-year jail term. Possible, but apparently highly unlikely. It seems that the FCC has never charged anyone with this crime, even though the American market is one of the most important when it comes to selling cell-phone jamming equipment. One distributor (who wished to remain anonymous) told me they've exported approximately 300 jammers to the United States this year, more than to any other country."


Source: http://slate.msn.com/id/2092059/
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by andrewsheehan
Easy, just ordered on the company website, they shipped right to me in the U.S., DHL Next Day Air even. I think they pust "testing equipment" or something on the customs invoice.
That's even better! Now it's a SMUGGLING OPERATION!

It's left as an exercise to the reader to look up the relevant statutes regarding falsification of a customs declaration and conspiracy.

Jeez, sometimes I feel like I'm the only dork that actually cares about not breaking the law.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 4:37 pm
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That's more courtesy than either of the people in my example gave. I've heard stories of laptop screens being broken by the effects of sudden unannounced reclines, let alone drink/food spills.
I always check. Is there a drink on the tray table? Is it down at all? If yes to the first I ask if it is OK to recline my seat. If no to the second I slowly recline making sure not to slamm the back of my seat in the person behind me. This guy had no traytable down and was simply watching a movie.


Understandably. If he had to leverage off of your seat to get out of his because of lack of space, that's one thing. But there's no excuse for him pusing on your seat continuously; that's about as stupid as the recliner in my example pushing backwards on the seat continuously trying to eek out an extra half inch of recline.
All you need to do with me is ask. You need to get out, ask me to raise my seat again. I don't mind being woken for it. We all have to do our best to make sure we're all comfortable.

And that includes not having KNEES shoved in my back when my seat is up-right! That can get me going.

This is one of those issues where there are two opposed groups of people who will just never agree. That's OK. A lot of people ask why I don't recline my seat to gain space taken by the person in front of me, but I don't see the point in inflicting discomfort on someone else when I complain about the same discomfort. I stand by my personal rules for reclining seats. They aren't for everyone, but they work for me.
Most of the time I keep my seat up. It's only when I want some shut eye that I recline it. I have sat on flights with someone behind me who were on the larger side of the scale. There was no way I'd be able to recline my seat at all. I was sat by an emergency exit so at least I had plenty of legroom.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 4:55 pm
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If you don't like being around cellphones, go to establishments and use services that prohibit them.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 5:01 pm
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Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some idoiot talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 5:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie
sometimes a situation arises where one knows that simply asking the perpetrator to stop will result in either no viable solution to the problem at hand or perhaps even worsen the problem.
So you just absolutely know that knocking on the door and explaining that you are being disturbed won't work. Absolutely certain the person is not just ignorant that the sound transmits to other rooms. That it isn't their first time in a hotel room and they have absolutely no clue what they are doing is wrong? That perhaps they will apologize and stop doing it for all future guests vs. continuing because they don't know better?

You have amazing insight, because I have had polite conversations with many neighbors and in 95% of the cases they are very apologetic.

What are you, twelve?
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by OutOfOffice
Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some idoiot talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once.
Yeah!!!

It is really disgusting when people do that.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 8:21 am
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Originally Posted by OutOfOffice
Next time I am in an airport restroom and hear some [idiot] talking on his cell phone inside a stall I plan on flushing every toilet all at once.
Answering the toilet-stall-talker's one-sided conversation, as if you were a participant (which you involuntarily are) might work, too.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 11:22 am
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I cannot believe that this thread is in any way serious. The only "revenge" comment that had any merit was letiole's #11. These so called revenge suggestions are the silliest and most childish things I have ever heard and find it hard to believe they come from seasoned travelers. I am also willing to bet that no one who made them is over the age of 35. Travel is a mix of all sorts of situations....pleasant, unpleasant, whatever comes along. Deal with it.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 11:36 am
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I did the seat back hit a number of years ago on someone. I was in coach on LH from Germany to the US. The flight was packed and as soon as the wheels were up the guy in front of me slammed the chair back and proceeded snoring. Every 30 minutes, carefully timed on my watch, I would stand up, forearming the seat back hard enough to bounce it as I did so, say oh, excuse me sir, I must have bumped the seat getting up since its back so far, and then take a walk.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Canarsie

Whats Your Hang-Up?: The Hotel Room Telephone Constantly Ringing Revenge

When I am in a hotel room for the night, I usually enjoy peace and quiet without incident. However, on occasion, I sometimes find myself unlucky enough to be next to a room where the inconsiderate guest(s) will blatantly do one or more of the following at inexcusably late hours with no regard whatsoever for other guests (such as myself) who are trying to fall asleep:
  • Yell or talk loudly on the telephone or to each other
  • Unnecessarily increase the volume of their television or radio for extended periods of time
  • Constantly laugh loudly
  • Continuously enter and exit their room while allowing the door to slam loudly and uncontrollably
  • Bang into or drag around their furniture.
Usually, a fairly reliable theorem is that those who stay up late and cause these problems usually sleep late the next morning.

If calls to the front desk are futile and produce no results in terms of resolving the matter at hand and nothing else works, what I will do as revenge is wake up early the next morning, pick up the telephone and call the room of the offending guest(s). By the way, I always ensure that I am calling the correct room. I press my ear against the wall to the next room to monitor movement of the guest(s). I then hang up the telephone by quietly using my finger at the exact second the telephone receiver is picked up in the next room. I listen through the wall as the guest usually mutters Hello. Hello? while half asleep and then hangs up.

I will give a couple of minutes and do something (such as wash up, brush my teeth, etc.) to give the guest a chance to lay back down in bed and go back to sleep before I repeat the same procedure above. Once again, the guest says Hello. Hello? and then hangs up.

I then immediately call back and repeat the procedure again. By this time the guest starts to become irritated: Hello. Hello! and then hangs up in sheer frustration.

I do this several more times while randomly varying the time between telephone calls to keep the guest off-guard, always ensuring that the telephone continuously rings before coincidentally hanging up the second the guest answers the telephone: Hello! HELLO!!! and then slams the receiver of the telephone in absolute disgust.

An added bonus is when there is more than one guest in the room and they discuss the telephone situation in disgust and in desperation, not knowing if the telephone is merely malfunctioning. Usually, this does not require an ear pressed against the wall, as they will usually be as loud during their discussion as they were the night before.

At worst, I leave the room that morning satisfied with exacting harmless payback against an inconsiderate offender. At best, I have ruined their morning and possibly their day.

By the way, depending on the situation, this idea could also work well before going to sleep or, better yet, during the middle of the night if one finds that one cannot go to sleep due to the selfishly inconsiderate acts of the perpetrator.
I find this quite childish. Very much so, as a matter of fact. I've had my share of noisy neighbors and slamming doors during my many hotel stays. While thoughts of some sort of revenge entered my mind, NEVER would I have acted any out. Merely fantasies.

To relegate yourself to the level of the 'perpetrator' is not they way I was brought up and wish everyone else was the same. Actually, you more than likely relegated yourself to one rung LOWER than the 'perpetrator'. You VOLUNTARILY acted inconsiderate. The 'perpetrator', very likely a 1-2 times/year traveler, was unaware they were being rude.

D*mn, suck it up and be a bigger person than the other.
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Luckylxe
People just don't no idea how rude they are in some peoples eyes blabbing off on their phones in public all the time. Can't it wait? I wouldn't do that unless it was seriously important.
Do you have this same attitude about conversations where both parties are present? Or just when someone is talking on a cell phone?

Loud and annoying people are loud and annoying whether they're talking on a cell phone or to the person next to them.

Quite and polite people are quiet and polite whether they're talking on a cell phone or to the person next to them.

I don't understand why people have this irrational fixation on cell phones and people talking on them. If it's OK for two people to talk to eachother, why not a person on a cell phone?
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