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GW McLintock Mar 1, 2023 8:45 am

Now that I look at it, I actually have a decent list:
  • JFK-BUF
  • JFK-ROC
  • LGA-ROC
  • JFK-SYR
  • ALB-JFK (we diverted on BOS-LAX and then ferried back to JFK)
  • BOS-ACK
  • JAX-FLL
  • PBI-MCO (JFK-MCO diverted due to weather/ground stop)
  • LGB-SJC
  • LGB-SFO
  • LGB-OAK
  • LGB-SMF
  • EWR-ACY (EWR-PBI diverted due to a faulty coffee maker)

-J.

18sas Mar 2, 2023 3:31 pm

What if we just limited to routes where you had both O/D in the same state?
For me:
EYW-MIA and v.v.
EYW-FLL
EYW-TPA
MCO-FLL
ATL-AGS
SAT-DAL
LAX-SFO and v.v.
An alternate related question: Has anyone O/D'ed from the same state but had to connect in a different state to do so?

GW McLintock Mar 2, 2023 3:46 pm


Originally Posted by 18sas (Post 35056299)
An alternate related question: Has anyone O/D'ed from the same state but had to connect in a different state to do so?

Now that I think about it, I've done a few of these -- all involving NYC and ROC:
  • ROC-DTW-JFK/LGA (and vice versa -- all Delta/Delta Connection)
  • ROC-ATL-LGA (Delta Connection and Delta mainline)
  • LGA-DCA-ROC (US Airways Shuttle and Express)
  • LGA-PHL-ROC (had booked nonstop but it canceled after we had already boarded -- all US Airways Express)
-J.

jrl767 Mar 2, 2023 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by 18sas (Post 35056299)
What if we just limited to routes where you had both O/D in the same state?

um, that’s the *DEFINITION* of intra-state :p


Originally Posted by 18sas (Post 35056299)
An alternate related question: Has anyone O/D'ed from the same state but had to connect in a different state to do so?


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 35026845)
just last month I did SEA<>GEG on the retirement flight of the Alaska (Horizon) Dash 8-400

originally booked SEA-PDX-GEG as a positioning flight for ~$110 when the cheapest nonstops were $189

18sas Mar 2, 2023 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by jrl767 (Post 35056492)
um, that’s the *DEFINITION* of intra-state :p

um, many of the flights that people are talking about, they flew as one leg on a trip with connections, e.g. PDX-ANC-OME or CLT-PHL-PIT. Get it?

18sas Mar 2, 2023 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 35056335)
Now that I think about it, I've done a few of these -- all involving NYC and ROC:
  • ROC-ATL-LGA (Delta Connection and Delta mainline)

This takes the cake. Just looking at the great circle route, the states you fly over go something like this:

NY-PA-WV-KY-VA-TN-NC-GA-SC-NC-VA-MD-DE-PA-NJ-NY

GW McLintock Mar 2, 2023 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by 18sas (Post 35056884)
This takes the cake. Just looking at the great circle route, the states you fly over go something like this:

NY-PA-WV-KY-VA-TN-NC-GA-SC-NC-VA-MD-DE-PA-NJ-NY

Yeah it was a little crazy but I actually SDC'ed to it as it got me home 4 hours earlier than my ROC-DTW-LGA that night. Never mind the fact that I had to show up at ROC 8ish hours early but I had no plans that day anyway and wanted the MQMs (and wanted to fly on a 757 after taking nothing but RJs and the occasional DC-9 for a while). This was before the days of MQDs.

-J.

jrl767 Mar 2, 2023 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by 18sas (Post 35056875)
um, many of the flights that people are talking about, they flew as one leg on a trip with connections, e.g. PDX-ANC-OME or CLT-PHL-PIT. Get it?

on the TRIP =\= on the FLIGHT (the latter — or so I thought — being the subject of the thread)

’nuff said, not worth cussing/ discussing any further ;)

Phrozen Mar 7, 2023 12:26 pm

Limiting myself to intra-Alaska flights, my map looks pretty much like this. I think that's every route I've taken in the state.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...248e9b7805.gif
Within other states, I've got Seattle-Yakima a few times and Honolulu-Hilo once. I think that's it, though/

Duke787 Mar 8, 2023 8:55 pm

Intra-NC on US Airways and now AA is the big one for me.

RDU - CLT has been a staple in my life whenever I've needed to travel on US/AA. Others that pop into my head from my various travels: RNO - LAS, SFO - LAX, SJC - LAX, FAI - ANC, AUS - DFW, AUS - IAH.

I have also done O&D once with an out of state connection. RDU - ATL - ILM on DL -- no direct flights from RDU to ILM or AVL so if for any reason you need to fly (and aren't flying AA) it's either IAD (on UA) or ATL (on DL)

DenverBrian Mar 8, 2023 9:15 pm

For O&D intrastate, it just becomes a matter of state size. Rhode Island? Delaware? Virtually impossible. California? Texas? You bet.

moondog Mar 8, 2023 10:57 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 35072761)
For O&D intrastate, it just becomes a matter of state size. Rhode Island? Delaware? Virtually impossible. California? Texas? You bet.

There's a post up thread that suggests RI currently has intra-state flights, so in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...iscussion.html we tried to figure out which of the states identified (in the same post) with no flights most recently did have flights (some still do). Delaware was the ONLY one that we couldn't crack at all (i.e. not even some random Cessna Bobcat route from 80 years ago).


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d12a09c5ec.png

ATOBTTR Mar 9, 2023 9:26 am


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 35072761)
For O&D intrastate, it just becomes a matter of state size. Rhode Island? Delaware? Virtually impossible. California? Texas? You bet.


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 35072894)
There's a post up thread that suggests RI currently has intra-state flights, so in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...iscussion.html we tried to figure out which of the states identified (in the same post) with no flights most recently did have flights (some still do). Delaware was the ONLY one that we couldn't crack at all (i.e. not even some random Cessna Bobcat route from 80 years ago).

The "O&D" is what DenverBrian was referring to, which is different than the segment itself. Few people probably fly intra-state within Rhode Island or many other small states as their origin and final destination. If taking one of these flights, they're almost certainly connecting onward to a city in a different state. This is not necessarily true for large states like Texas where plenty of people fly between Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, and other cities within the state of Texas as their origin and destination because these cities are far enough apart to warrant flying between depsite being in the same state. Same in California between cities in Northern California and Southern California. Geographic features and climatic factors also play a role. Hawaii is an example with plenty of O&D flying within the state despite the otherwise short geographical distance simply because there's no other real way to get between the islands as people island hop during their trip or residents island hop for local trips or business . Alaska is another example because again, cities may be close geographically but with huge mountains and no roads in between.

moondog Mar 9, 2023 9:46 am

As long as it is/was possible to fly the segments standalone, they are fair game IMO.

NotSoFrequentColorado Mar 14, 2023 12:02 pm

Fairbanks - Barrow in Alaska. LAX - SFO. That is all. Oh wait ... several inter-island in HI. And maybe something in TX about a million (read:52) years ago.


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