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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by SSF556
Cowering in your home is not natural and not what makes America. I am starting up my traveling the week of May 4th.

Beware of anyone that promises you tomorrow or promises you safety.

Realistically you are putting yourself at a much much higher risk driving back across the country in a car. I say hell ya go for it...we only live once.
Who said anything about cowering? I'm not cowering. I'm annoyed being at home and only going out to the supermarket, but such is life sometimes.

Are you trying to prove some point by brute force? I'm really saddened by the selfishness of people who defy common sense advisories and put themselves and others at risk justifying it with some notion of liberty and freedom. Give me a break and try to come together on this.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by pgh234
It is just as selfish for me to leave my home to go to work to make money for my family as it is for the hotel employee I may asymptomatically pass it on to also go to work and make money to support their family. I am glad you are in a position to not care about money.

Again, life is inherently a risk and every day is a day closer to death. 99.9% of the country has the medical capacity to help folks if they need it. Between car accidents/distracted driving, drug overdoses, eating like crap, etc...this just adds another risk to the litany of items out there trying to kill you. Weigh your risks and proceed accordingly.
You're not understanding, and that's ok. We're not talking about going to work at a place (where you can observe distancing and hygiene rules) in order to provide for your family. OP asked about taking a completely unnecessary trip by flying one way, and then driving the opposite way, across the whole country, just because sitting in the apartment wasn't fun. That is both selfish and stupid in the current environment. It has nothing to do with liberty, freedom, or any constitutional rights. It's just basic common sense.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by BearX220

That is a dispatch from some parallel universe where the death toll isn't rising by thousands daily and where politically motivated relaxation of the rules isn't about to cause fresh eruptions and deaths.
For the third time, in my city, 100 people have been admitted to the hospital for the 'Rona over the past five weeks and we have over 6200 hospital beds. How is this politically motivated? Where is the dire problem with heathcare? Despite what the media shows you, this non-headline grabbing math applies to a very vast majority of the county. A soft reopening as we control the "fresh eruptions and deaths" is what we need to do. Deaths will occur. That is because of the disease, not politics. Unless people want to live off of the grid, grow their own food, forgo Amazon deliveries, and shun heathcare and seeing literally anyone for a few years in complete and utter social isolation...this virus will not go anywhere!

Plus, if you are concerned about the next 6 weeks of being locked in your appartment...try the next two years! The virus, like H1N1, the common cold Cornas, etc ..it is not going away!
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
Who said anything about cowering? I'm not cowering. I'm annoyed being at home and only going out to the supermarket, but such is life sometimes.

Are you trying to prove some point by brute force? I'm really saddened by the selfishness of people who defy common sense advisories and put themselves and others at risk justifying it with some notion of liberty and freedom. Give me a break and try to come together on this.
I did not call you out specifically....and I have come together for 6 weeks now. I have done my due diligence and now it is time to open up and realize that cowering in your home is no way to live. Again freedom is a scary thing.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
You're not understanding, and that's ok. We're not talking about going to work at a place (where you can observe distancing and hygiene rules) in order to provide for your family. OP asked about taking a completely unnecessary trip by flying one way, and then driving the opposite way, across the whole country, just because sitting in the apartment wasn't fun. That is both selfish and stupid in the current environment. It has nothing to do with liberty, freedom, or any constitutional rights. It's just basic common sense.
Nope...common sense is realizing that you can't protect yourself from a virus and that "safety" is not something that can be assured. That is common sense!

Also there was a great caller on the Rush Limbaugh show yesterday....I am paraphrasing...

The question we have to ask is, Are we trying to stop people from dying from the virus, or are we trying to prevent people from GETTING the virus? There is a huge difference in the needed response to those 2 questions. No amount of remediation, no amount, as told by many doctors and virologists, can prevent people from GETTING the virus. It will work its way through the population as any other virus would. It now is clear that the response by our leaders is an attempt to prevent people from GETTING the virus, and its killing us in dollar signs.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
You're not understanding, and that's ok. We're not talking about going to work at a place (where you can observe distancing and hygiene rules) in order to provide for your family. OP asked about taking a completely unnecessary trip by flying one way, and then driving the opposite way, across the whole country, just because sitting in the apartment wasn't fun. That is both selfish and stupid in the current environment. It has nothing to do with liberty, freedom, or any constitutional rights. It's just basic common sense.
It is shame you can't understand that those hotel and airline employees also observing distancing and hygiene rules also need to provide for their family.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:00 am
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Why were you cowering? And if you were cowering at home, you would or should certainly be cowering in a hotel room, or at a gas station, or in an airport, because those are high-throughput places where picking up the virus is much easier and more likely than in your home. Your perceived individual freedom may come at a greater cost to you (and others) than you perceive.

Someone posted in a another thread that ending stay-at-home restrictions now would be like stopping birth control after two months because you didn't get pregnant.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by pgh234
It is shame you can't understand that those hotel and airline employees also observing distancing and hygiene rules also need to provide for their family.
I do, that's what I said. On the other hand, one person flying to Seattle and then driving to the east coast for no reason whatsoever doesn't provide for any family.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by greathustle
Doesn't sound crazy to me. If you're healthy and take precautions go for it, sounds fun.
Agreed.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by ND76
Sitting here with travel withdrawal symptoms, not having left the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area since my last Delta flight on March 16.

Delta is offering one-way tickets DCA-SEA for $318. Once at SEA, I would pick up a Hertz rental car and drive back to DCA. Hertz has an intermediate car priced (including drop charges) at $344 for seven days, unlimited mileage. I can probably get a President's Circle upgrade. I can probably drive this in four days, which would leave three days for rest.

As far as the flight is concerned, I'm not sure that upgrades matter, since there are no PDBs or adult beverages in either F or C+, and C+ and Y seating is 2 x 2, so I would be comfortable anywhere on the plane.

Am I crazy?
Yes

Damn the torpedos.....full speed ahead!
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
I think its a bit early at this point. Why not wait another month, when things are a bit more under control?
What is your basis on one month? Why not wait 3 months?
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:18 am
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Damn the torpedos.....full speed ahead!
Redirect the torpedos to a flight attendant's asthmatic mother!
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:21 am
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Any of our Japanese F-Talkers care to chime in on the status of things? Japan gave the proverbial middle finger to lock downs.

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https://www.ft.com/content/9bac4ad5-...T9io3UQ3mTvl5A
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by SamOF
Redirect the torpedos to a flight attendant's asthmatic mother!
That is uncalled for and really should be viewed by the Site Staff as a removable post. Why aren't you blaming the FA who has made the decision to work? Or what about the pilots who are flying the plane or the GA or the TSA guy/gal....see the problem with your attack? Again there is no way humanly possible to prevent the spread of a virus.
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Old Apr 24, 2020 | 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by ND76
Sitting here with travel withdrawal symptoms, not having left the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area since my last Delta flight on March 16.

Delta is offering one-way tickets DCA-SEA for $318. Once at SEA, I would pick up a Hertz rental car and drive back to DCA. Hertz has an intermediate car priced (including drop charges) at $344 for seven days, unlimited mileage. I can probably get a President's Circle upgrade. I can probably drive this in four days, which would leave three days for rest.

As far as the flight is concerned, I'm not sure that upgrades matter, since there are no PDBs or adult beverages in either F or C+, and C+ and Y seating is 2 x 2, so I would be comfortable anywhere on the plane.

Am I crazy?
Get a Spirit ticket for $18 and upgrade to the big front seat for $25. First class for under $50. And if you purchase your ticket at the airport its $20 cheaper vs online.
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