Forward Cabin Etiquette: Overhead Bin Space
Oct 23, 2018, 5:43 pm
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One item in the bin, regardless of size (subject to crew-determined size restrictions; no one's carrying on a steamer trunk).
So if you checked your rollaboard, you put the backpack in the bin.
Anyone ever offered to put the small backpack they want to move under the seat in front of their seat? Assuming both passengers are seating nearby one another, why not?
So if you checked your rollaboard, you put the backpack in the bin.
Anyone ever offered to put the small backpack they want to move under the seat in front of their seat? Assuming both passengers are seating nearby one another, why not?
Oct 23, 2018, 6:11 pm
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Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight.
Oct 23, 2018, 6:12 pm
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Oct 23, 2018, 6:24 pm
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Qantas is attempting to resolve this (although TBH it's really not much of a problem in Australia- see below) two ways:
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat
2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you"
I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon.
Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat
2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you"
I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon.
Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general
Oct 23, 2018, 6:48 pm
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Serious answer: Because I don't want anyone's feet near my backpack, especially when it has electronics and a laptop in it.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight.
Also in this regard, on a lengthy trip I will check my rollaboard (even though it is cabin compliant), throw that small backpack up in the bin, and place my messenger bag, with electronics, documents, etc. under the seat in front of me. So in the OP's situation, I would have definitely told the person that my footwell is occupied, but if they're willing to put my backpack in front of their feet, they can pull it and put their bag up. Always presuming they're near enough in the cabin that it won't be a production when we disembark.
Oct 23, 2018, 7:01 pm
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Well of course it's circumstance dependant. As you say, if it's fragile stuff even the OHB is treacherous. What I was getting at is the backpack with spare stuff in case your checked bag gets delayed or misrouted. You do this right? Spare change of clothes and toiletries so you can move on with your trip while Incompetent Air figures out how to ship bags and passengers to the same place at the same time.
Also in this regard, on a lengthy trip I will check my rollaboard (even though it is cabin compliant), throw that small backpack up in the bin, and place my messenger bag, with electronics, documents, etc. under the seat in front of me. So in the OP's situation, I would have definitely told the person that my footwell is occupied, but if they're willing to put my backpack in front of their feet, they can pull it and put their bag up. Always presuming they're near enough in the cabin that it won't be a production when we disembark.
Also in this regard, on a lengthy trip I will check my rollaboard (even though it is cabin compliant), throw that small backpack up in the bin, and place my messenger bag, with electronics, documents, etc. under the seat in front of me. So in the OP's situation, I would have definitely told the person that my footwell is occupied, but if they're willing to put my backpack in front of their feet, they can pull it and put their bag up. Always presuming they're near enough in the cabin that it won't be a production when we disembark.
Oct 23, 2018, 7:17 pm
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If your backpack is full of nothing but clothes, then yeah, I can understand why you wouldn't be too concerned. For me, I typically travel with a (checked) suitcase and my backpack, which is the only thing I bring onto the plane with me. So it holds all of my gear - that's not going near someone else's feet, sorry.
Btw, once I get to the destination and reclaim my suitcase, the spare clothes and backpack (North Face packable type) go into the rollaboard. So I'm not dealing with three items on the ground.
Oct 23, 2018, 8:34 pm
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Serious answer: Because I don't want anyone's feet near my backpack, especially when it has electronics and a laptop in it.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight.
Heck, I hardly want my own feet near it. Last thing I want is to accidentally shift my feet and crush something in my bad, and I'm going to be careful with my own stuff. I can't trust anyone else to do the same with my property. I usually won't put my bag up in the bin for the same reason, but I'll do so on a short flight where most people aren't going to be rummaging through the overhead bins mid-flight.
Oct 23, 2018, 9:33 pm
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IMO it's pretty clear -- you get 1 carry on and 1 personal item, and your carry-on can go in the overhead bin. If you bring a smaller carry-on than most people, that's just you being nice -- you are taking up less space in the overhead bin than if you took a roller bag. That doesn't mean that you don't get to use the bin.
This is exactly why there are boarding groups -- because it is first come first serve. And that's why they give away earlier boarding to elites or people who pay for more expensive classes of service. If I didn't have a carry-on I'd rather board the flight at the last possible minute.
This is exactly why there are boarding groups -- because it is first come first serve. And that's why they give away earlier boarding to elites or people who pay for more expensive classes of service. If I didn't have a carry-on I'd rather board the flight at the last possible minute.
Oct 23, 2018, 10:20 pm
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I had an FA try to take my backpack down from the OH bin and have me put it under the seat in front of me. Fortunately I had my (small) camera bag with me which was already under the seat so I didn’t have to worry about awkwardly declining/protesting to the FA on why I don’t want to have my backpack under the seat in front of me for a 3 hour flight all so someone else can not have to gate check their roll-a-board that they didn’t want to pay to check in the first place. Since then though, if I am traveling with only my backpack, it still goes in the OH bin but I now pack my backpack in a way that it won’t fit under the seat as packed so the FA doesn’t view it as an easy bag to pull down and then try to have me put under the seat in front of me, but if I need to (perhaps because I’m boarding late due to a late inbound connection), I can remove something like a sweatshirt or light jacket and then the backpack fits under the seat (so no gate check there).
Oct 23, 2018, 10:51 pm
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Qantas is attempting to resolve this (although TBH it's really not much of a problem in Australia- see below) two ways:
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat
2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you"
I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon.
Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general
1. At the gate, if people have two bags, the attendant ties a red tag on the smaller one and tell the passenger it has to go under the seat
2. On boarding, making announcements to the effect "if you are travelling with two bags, please place only the larger item in the overhead locker, and the smaller item under the seat in front of you"
I suspect one reason why this is not such a major issue in Australia is that all the airlines have allocated seating - there is no mad dash or boarding group. Seems to reduce the "got to get on first with my 15 bags" mindset and people generally are reasonable about what they bring. Also Qantas and Virgin have no charge for 20kg checked baggage so you don't "have" to bring excess carryon.
Also, you know, Australians are just so much more civilised travellers in general
In Australia, there's also a (low) weight limit for carry on bags. I've been yelled at by airport security checkpoint employees for legal sized wheeled roller bags that were too heavy.
Oct 23, 2018, 10:56 pm
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However, on the floor your stuff risks someone spilling a drink on it, which normally doesn't/can't happen in the overhead bin.
Oct 24, 2018, 3:52 am
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I know this is unrelated to DL, but BA have a policy where if someone has a small piece of hand luggage, they put a yellow tag on it, this means that all yellow tagged bags have to go under the seat.
I am 100% against this, as you are essentially rewarding people for bringing a bigger bag on to the plane. if i want to put my backpack up top, I should be able to do it.
I am 100% against this, as you are essentially rewarding people for bringing a bigger bag on to the plane. if i want to put my backpack up top, I should be able to do it.
Oct 24, 2018, 4:19 am
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