high-end hotels usually disappointing?
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uber requires you to have smartphone? how would hotel know?
also taxis (including ubertaxi) are not uncommon, plus uberblack
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This particular hotel had its own executive car service, with an 'expectation' that you'd want to use them. So to wait outside for an Uber involved telling at least three hotel employees you'd arranged your own transportation, followed by incredulous looks.
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I've never had a hotel give me strange looks for arranging my own transportation, and this includes St. Regis and Ritz that may have had house cars waiting nearby.
There are many reasons a traveler would arrange their own car at all quality levels of hotel. For example, we use the same company for all of our Manhattan-to/from-airport travel. It would be frowned upon if I jumped in the hotel's car at 2x-3x the cost of what we already have negotiated.
There are many reasons a traveler would arrange their own car at all quality levels of hotel. For example, we use the same company for all of our Manhattan-to/from-airport travel. It would be frowned upon if I jumped in the hotel's car at 2x-3x the cost of what we already have negotiated.
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taxis are common most places, and public transport is common some places
and uberx could be business associate or friend, unless staff recognizes driver
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That would irk me. The hotels business and partnerships are not my concern or responsibility. I can do what I like so far as non-hotel matters are concerned.
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Of course, good service is not exposing all of this to the customer.
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A shirt printed with the hotel's logo is more something you'd find in a gift shop. Those are hardly exclusive to high end hotels. Typically they're in upper mid-scale hotels as well. And usually they're off to the side of the main path through the lobby, making them easily ignored. I'm talking about shops selling name-brand, designer fashion and accessories. Because these aren't cheap to start with the shops need prime location to generate foot traffic, meaning the hotel is built with these shops between the front door and the elevator. At some hotels it's like going through a shopping mall each time I enter or leave.
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To answer OP's question, I think any "high-end" product will be disappointing if you evaluate its utility vs. price on an objective basis. High-end products are usually meant to be status symbols, and give you a sense of importance. In terms of product performance, a $1000 name-brand handbag is for the most part functionally equivalent to a cheap one from Target. While its nice to stay at the Ritz or Four Seasons if you have the money and want to be pampered, you will likely be just as comfortable at the Hilton, especially if your activities in the destination city do not center around the hotel.
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FWIW, the most incredible place I stayed was a tiny, family-run resort (Phanom Bencha Mountain Resort) in the middle of the rainforest in Krabi, Thailand. The owner and his family had the incredible gift of making people from every culture feel completely at home, greeted everyone by name and their favourite dish for breakfast or dinner after just one day, and made arriving, staying and leaving utterly seamless. They even have a beautiful, natural, spring-water infinity pool overlooking the mountains, from a tapped stream. All this for USD17 per double bungalow...
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Reading this thread, I get the sense that many people think that charging $250 per night constitutes a 'high-end' hotel. When you start spending $600+ per night and find these rooms dull and sterile, please let me know. This is not to say that you need to spend a lot to stay in a nice hotel, of course.
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Personally, I would prefer a Nice full service marriott where im treated well, than a Uber Luxury hotel, where because of my income I am not the top dog. But it all depends on the service level, not specifically the hotel.
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Reading this thread, I get the sense that many people think that charging $250 per night constitutes a 'high-end' hotel. When you start spending $600+ per night and find these rooms dull and sterile, please let me know. This is not to say that you need to spend a lot to stay in a nice hotel, of course.
As for the "dull and sterile" phrase being tossed around, I understood that as pertaining to brand-name hotels like Hilton, Marriott, Hyatt, etc. They are often boring in their what-business-travelers-want generic sameness. They are not high-end hotels, of course, though many inexperienced travelers may mistake them as such, especially when the rates in big cities seem astronomical to small-town sensibilities. How did you interpret the phrase?
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The only hotels I've stayed at where I was wowed were:
The JW Marriott in Bangkok was certainly very nice, but definitely not in the same class as the above two. And really, the Aman was a few notches more amazing than Silky Oaks. But that was mainly because of our personal butler and the fact that there were only about a dozen "rooms".
Otherwise, all mainline Marriott, Hilton, Sheraton, W, Westin, etc properties are all pretty interchangeable to me.
And TOTALLY agree with the above sentiment that it's the service that makes a high end hotel.
- Aman i Khas, India
- Silky Oaks Lodge, Australia
The JW Marriott in Bangkok was certainly very nice, but definitely not in the same class as the above two. And really, the Aman was a few notches more amazing than Silky Oaks. But that was mainly because of our personal butler and the fact that there were only about a dozen "rooms".
Otherwise, all mainline Marriott, Hilton, Sheraton, W, Westin, etc properties are all pretty interchangeable to me.
And TOTALLY agree with the above sentiment that it's the service that makes a high end hotel.
OTOH the regent resort in chang Mai now a four seasons on a working rice farm was outstanding in room, service, atmosphere..as was the Taj in varanasi which provided a horse drawn carriage to the river at dawn to witness sunrise over the ganges..as well as banyan tree lijiang and ring ha in Yunnan China ..beautiful complexes decorated with local color..