Do you "dress up" to fly premium cabin?
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The second part of my assertion (if you've paid for your j/f ticket, you dress the way you want to), I think, is still true.
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I did not read the whole thread but I think the dressing up for J/F is for the Aero Nouveau Riche (those who travel for business so much that, due to FF programs, they are treated like royalty while flying but otherwise lead drab hoi polloi lives) is for borderline "elites" seeking an upgrade.
If you have purchased your j/f ticket, you do not worry about what you are wearing, provided that your personal hygiene is good, since there is no system to game or anyone to impress on the aircraft.
If you have purchased your j/f ticket, you do not worry about what you are wearing, provided that your personal hygiene is good, since there is no system to game or anyone to impress on the aircraft.
What does "purchasing" a ticket ( vs stealing?) has to do with anything if you fly paid/miles should not matter in any way.
Why is it "snobbish" to dress up but not "hoboish" to dress down?
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One of the purposes of my post was to introduce the term "Aero Nouveau Riche (ANR);" those who are "rich" in airline status predominantly due to heavy business travel.
I have met and worked with many ANR who make a decent living but not enough to justify their attitude in real life. A ANR is a person whose actual income does not justify his/her nitpicking between the ME3 in F when s/he cannot afford a Michelin 1-star dinner in real life, when the company is not picking up the tab. This person is also likely to drive a company BMW but is hugely stressed if layoffs are rumored because they do not have even 2 months cash reserves.
I have met and worked with many ANR who make a decent living but not enough to justify their attitude in real life. A ANR is a person whose actual income does not justify his/her nitpicking between the ME3 in F when s/he cannot afford a Michelin 1-star dinner in real life, when the company is not picking up the tab. This person is also likely to drive a company BMW but is hugely stressed if layoffs are rumored because they do not have even 2 months cash reserves.
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#124
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Upgrade is determined by a computer no a human (for 99%). So your argument is deeply flawed.
Your argument seems to be rooted to envy
What does "purchasing" a ticket ( vs stealing?) has to do with anything if you fly paid/miles should not matter in any way.
Why is it "snobbish" to dress up but not "hoboish" to dress down?
Your argument seems to be rooted to envy
What does "purchasing" a ticket ( vs stealing?) has to do with anything if you fly paid/miles should not matter in any way.
Why is it "snobbish" to dress up but not "hoboish" to dress down?
When did I use the term "hobo" or "snobbish." I used the term "Aero Nouveau Riche" and I will defend that.
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It's fine for you to care about your appearance as long as you don't care about mine. This thread is rife with snide comments about "walmartians, references to "BBQs and NASCAR," posts bemoaning "lounge suits," pleas that women not wear tights, declarations that certain types of clothing are "tacky" and other overt snobbery.
I don't care what you wear as long as the naughty bits are covered and you don't cause olfactory offense. Meanwhile, I will select my apparel to suit me not to impress officious busybodies who are inordinately preoccupied with what other people are wearing.
I don't care what you wear as long as the naughty bits are covered and you don't cause olfactory offense. Meanwhile, I will select my apparel to suit me not to impress officious busybodies who are inordinately preoccupied with what other people are wearing.
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Back on topic.....
And the answer is: nope.
My standard travel attire in domestic F as well as international J and F is blue jeans, a button down, long sleeve shirt and cowboy boots. If it's a bit chilly, a nice cashmere sweater from Scotland as well.
I also carry my own little bottle of Tabasco sauce in case of contingencies (such as a substandard Bloody Mary).
And the answer is: nope.
My standard travel attire in domestic F as well as international J and F is blue jeans, a button down, long sleeve shirt and cowboy boots. If it's a bit chilly, a nice cashmere sweater from Scotland as well.
I also carry my own little bottle of Tabasco sauce in case of contingencies (such as a substandard Bloody Mary).
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I pretty much always wear the same thing (the very casual end of business casual: short sleeve collared shirt of some sort and khakis/casual slacks) except to sleep, so no, don't really dress up or down.
Anything more formal is pretty much limited to the very occasional fancy dinner out, or the even more occasional wedding or funeral for the actual suit.
Although lately on long haul flights, to spare arriving in a slept-in shirt I'll switch to a t-shirt or short sleeve henley once on board, and switch back either shortly before landing or in the lounge.
Anything more formal is pretty much limited to the very occasional fancy dinner out, or the even more occasional wedding or funeral for the actual suit.
Although lately on long haul flights, to spare arriving in a slept-in shirt I'll switch to a t-shirt or short sleeve henley once on board, and switch back either shortly before landing or in the lounge.
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So there are few/no rude people wearing casual clothes? I find that a little hard to believe.
And do we really need another clothing thread that is just full of people saying "I'm not stuck up. I dress casually on the plane."??
Last time I went TATL in coach I debated wearing pajamas but decided against it. Later this year I may be on a 8 hour overnight flight also in coach. I might just bring out the pajamas this time. Because I'm not stuck up.
And do we really need another clothing thread that is just full of people saying "I'm not stuck up. I dress casually on the plane."??
Last time I went TATL in coach I debated wearing pajamas but decided against it. Later this year I may be on a 8 hour overnight flight also in coach. I might just bring out the pajamas this time. Because I'm not stuck up.
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It's funny that classism is mentioned in reference to first and business class passengers criticizing each other for their attire.
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Nope. When I am flying for work, however, I usually dress wearing an outfit that I could wear to a meeting if my suitcase got lost or one of my packed outfits had a rude encounter with a caramel macchiato. When I am traveling on vacation that doesn't apply. When I'm up front, however, I am there on status so I don't know which cabin I'll be in until I board half the time.
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i book a bed. virgin atlantic (in first) gave us pj's and escorted us to the plane after a delightful dinner.
we usually fly in J, and i wear sweat shirt and sweat pants, and fabric house slippers. after using the latrine on the russian train, house slippers are disposable.
we usually fly in J, and i wear sweat shirt and sweat pants, and fabric house slippers. after using the latrine on the russian train, house slippers are disposable.
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Sure. I thought it was funny because a serious concept regarding the marginalization and disenfranchisement of socially-disadvantaged people was just re-purposed so that it could be casually lobbed around on a frequent traveler forum in reference to premium cabin travelers.
It's kind of like observing one homeowner in Green Acres criticizing another because his/her picket fence is one inch shorter and calling it classism.
So, uh, yeah. It was funny.
I'd rather laugh than cry, anyway.
Edit to Add: I guess I prefer "snobby" to "classist." But language is open to interpretation, I guess. I've been the victim of such "snobbiness," too.
Travelers tend to wear the outfit that is most utilitarian for their purposes. It's a shame so many people can't see past that and have to be so presumptuous and condescending.
It's kind of like observing one homeowner in Green Acres criticizing another because his/her picket fence is one inch shorter and calling it classism.
So, uh, yeah. It was funny.
I'd rather laugh than cry, anyway.
Edit to Add: I guess I prefer "snobby" to "classist." But language is open to interpretation, I guess. I've been the victim of such "snobbiness," too.
Travelers tend to wear the outfit that is most utilitarian for their purposes. It's a shame so many people can't see past that and have to be so presumptuous and condescending.
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