New Zealand rear seat seatbelt law?
Jan 20, 2013, 6:44 pm
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Our Le Meridien bus driver did not wear a seat belt as he drove into Khoa Lak as he followed a pick up truck with about 10 riders in the back as he swerved around moped riders wearing no helmets who were also swerving in and out of cars.
Our Le Meridien bus driver did not wear a seat belt as he drove into Khoa Lak as he followed a pick up truck with about 10 riders in the back as he swerved around moped riders wearing no helmets who were also swerving in and out of cars.
Jan 20, 2013, 8:04 pm
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I got a parking ticket, issued at gun point, in San Francisco for parking between 4 and 6pm in a certain area. There was no signage. I didn't like it, but I paid up and I didn't spend my time complaining about it. You have to obey the local laws, whether you like it or not.
Jan 20, 2013, 8:36 pm
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I was in the passenger seat. My husband had parked briefly outside the hotel we were booked in, while he went in to ask where to find the hotel's parking area.
The officer motioned for me to wind down the window, which I did. She then held her pistol (pointed at me) in the open window with one hand, while completing the ticket with the other hand. She rested both the gun and the writing pad on the window opening in the car door. She had already filled in the details of car registration number, location etc before motioning for me to open the window, so she only had to write briefly.
Nice introduction to San Francisco!
Jan 20, 2013, 8:41 pm
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Jan 20, 2013, 8:45 pm
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We could play this game with the OP all day
Jan 20, 2013, 9:26 pm
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She then held her pistol (pointed at me) in the open window with one hand, while completing the ticket with the other hand. She rested both the gun and the writing pad on the window opening in the car door. She had already filled in the details of car registration number, location etc before motioning for me to open the window, so she only had to write briefly.
It's good to respect the local laws and cultures when you are traveling, but that doesn't mean that you keep quiet when your rights are actually violated. In a sense, you are the polar opposite of the OP.
Jan 20, 2013, 11:59 pm
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Please report this to the SFPD internal affairs immediately. It is certainly not normal or acceptable practice among law enforcement in the US. Sometimes they tell you to place your hands where they can see them, but they are not permitted to draw a weapon on anyone without a valid reason.
It's good to respect the local laws and cultures when you are traveling, but that doesn't mean that you keep quiet when your rights are actually violated. In a sense, you are the polar opposite of the OP.
It's good to respect the local laws and cultures when you are traveling, but that doesn't mean that you keep quiet when your rights are actually violated. In a sense, you are the polar opposite of the OP.
Naturally, we enclosed a letter of complaint along with our payment.
Also naturally, we had no reply to our letter.
Jan 21, 2013, 8:26 am
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Jan 21, 2013, 11:34 am
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Interesting to see how differently we think. Having traveled quite a bit in Europe, I don't ever recall seeing signs in the countries reminding about using seatbelts. Perhaps, because it is common sense, or at least mandatory everywhere in the EU? I've ever only seen signs reminding people to buckle up in the US, in multiple states. I've never thought of it as being optional, as a person in their early 30s I've always assmed it's mandatory everywhere, in personal vehicles.
Jan 21, 2013, 2:15 pm
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Interesting to see how differently we think. Having traveled quite a bit in Europe, I don't ever recall seeing signs in the countries reminding about using seatbelts. Perhaps, because it is common sense, or at least mandatory everywhere in the EU? I've ever only seen signs reminding people to buckle up in the US, in multiple states. I've never thought of it as being optional, as a person in their early 30s I've always assmed it's mandatory everywhere, in personal vehicles.
I find the 'the car doesn't tell me to do it so it can't be that important' argument a bit odd, frankly. My car doesn't tell me to brake for red lights...
Jan 21, 2013, 2:15 pm
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By the way, I am in Thailand now.
Our Le Meridien bus driver did not wear a seat belt as he drove into Khoa Lak as he followed a pick up truck with about 10 riders in the back as he swerved around moped riders wearing no helmets who were also swerving in and out of cars.
Our Le Meridien bus driver did not wear a seat belt as he drove into Khoa Lak as he followed a pick up truck with about 10 riders in the back as he swerved around moped riders wearing no helmets who were also swerving in and out of cars.
Jan 21, 2013, 3:49 pm
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Try India! Cows on the road and camels pulling carts. Up to 15 people in a tuk-tuk. Trucks laden so heavily that their axles bend. Rural traffic coming at you the wrong way on a one-way stretch of road (they're allowed to!).
We once followed a truck that had about 10 people sleeping in hammocks in the back. The hammocks swayed as the truck traveled along.
We once followed a truck that had about 10 people sleeping in hammocks in the back. The hammocks swayed as the truck traveled along.
Jan 21, 2013, 5:00 pm
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