Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 2, 2019, 1:13 pm
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: London, England.
Programs: BA
Posts: 8,476
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
14. It used to be if you wanted to fly from Pittsburgh to Toronto, you’d give Nordair or Eastern a call. These days, Eastern still serves the route with a pair of 757s but Nordair has been replaced by another airline. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates on its two flights between Pittsburgh and Toronto.
Mar 2, 2019, 1:52 pm
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: London, England.
Programs: BA
Posts: 8,476
As in L'auto roule sur la route
They were the very first words on page 1 of our French language book at school. Still evidently recalled after all those years.
The relevance of WHBM's teenage school French classes to this thread are not as irrelevant as you may think, for those (very) long participants here, who recall this one, from what I am dismayed to find was 7 years ago ... yikes ! :
Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
They were the very first words on page 1 of our French language book at school. Still evidently recalled after all those years.
The relevance of WHBM's teenage school French classes to this thread are not as irrelevant as you may think, for those (very) long participants here, who recall this one, from what I am dismayed to find was 7 years ago ... yikes ! :
Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Mar 2, 2019, 3:24 pm
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: LFT
Programs: AA Plat, lots of AA, AS, DL, UA miles, former top level CO Elite (sigh...)
Posts: 10,795
The relevance of WHBM's teenage school French classes to this thread are not as irrelevant as you may think, for those (very) long participants here, who recall this one, from what I am dismayed to find was 7 years ago ... yikes ! :
Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Speaking of air travel (we have been known to discuss that topic here, of course), I am heartened to see that Southwest 8008, a charter flight operated with a B737-700, just landed safely at the Yampa Valley Airport (HDN) in Colorado. The weather was interesting when the airplane touched down with 0.8 mile visibility and light snow. On board the aircraft were Lady K, her sister and their girlfriends all off on a big skiing trip. Yours truly elected to stay home, take care of our little pup and big kitty, and attempt to not get into too much trouble.
So citizens of Steamboat Springs, beware. A bunch of wild Cajun women are about to descend upon you.
Mar 2, 2019, 10:22 pm
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
And then there were just five..
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
21. Continental Express, operated by Rocky Mountain Airways, Dash 7 Eagle County - Aspen - Las Vegas. Just a guess.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:46 pm
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
Well, what the heck......let's try Continental operating a B737-300 MCO-IAD-PWM
(Gasp!) It was not Continental, nor was it a 737-300. Please, guess again!
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
Well, what the heck......let's try Continental operating a B737-300 MCO-IAD-PWM
(Gasp!) It was not Continental, nor was it a 737-300. Please, guess again!
Mar 2, 2019, 11:50 pm
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
19. In 1987, if you want to fly direct from most anywhere in Florida to the state of Maine, you typically call Delta Airlines. You’ve never been a big fan of Delta though, and so you couldn’t be happier to discover an airline you’ve never heard of offering an affordable one stop direct flight – indeed it’s the only service nonstop or direct – between Orlando and Portland. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying aboard, not to mention the aircraft type.
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
A recent post in the "15 Defunct Airlines You Might Not Remember" thread reminded me that Presidential Airways (which I do in fact remember) operated a hub at IAD in the mid 1980s ... their fleet consisted of the BAe 146 and the 737-200, so this one will be closed out whether or not my guess is correct ...
Presidential Airways is correct! Here's the schedule:
Presidential Airways XV 162 Orlando (MCO) 515p-725p Snack Washington (IAD) 820p-1000p Portland (PWM) 737-200 Mo Th Fr
It's not People Express via EWR or a New York Air DC-9-30. The flight did stop at IAD
A recent post in the "15 Defunct Airlines You Might Not Remember" thread reminded me that Presidential Airways (which I do in fact remember) operated a hub at IAD in the mid 1980s ... their fleet consisted of the BAe 146 and the 737-200, so this one will be closed out whether or not my guess is correct ...
Presidential Airways is correct! Here's the schedule:
Presidential Airways XV 162 Orlando (MCO) 515p-725p Snack Washington (IAD) 820p-1000p Portland (PWM) 737-200 Mo Th Fr
Mar 2, 2019, 11:51 pm
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Orleans
Programs: UA life gold, UA/CO life Presidents/United Club since 1965; Marriott life titanium, HH diamond
Posts: 597
Ah yes.....I was young then. And I was younger still when I traveled by commercial air carrier for the very first time. We are now approaching the anniversary of that flight on board a Lockheed L-188 Electra operated by Pacific Southwest Airlines from LAX to SFO. That was 56 years ago. Talk about yikes!
And now we've probably started a contest -- no youngsters allowed.
But les bon temps continue to roulé! I tried (unsuccessfully) to find a bargain reward flight tonight for a quick revisit to Carnival in Rio (where it will be a darn sight warmer than MSY on Fat Tuesday). We'll watch TV instead. Still planning to visit Rio in April.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:54 pm
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
14. It used to be if you wanted to fly from Pittsburgh to Toronto, you’d give Nordair or Eastern a call. These days, Eastern still serves the route with a pair of 757s but Nordair has been replaced by another airline. Identify that airline and the equipment it operates on its two flights between Pittsburgh and Toronto.
I think Nordair had been absorbed into CP Air by then, so it would be a CP flight
Spot on, W. ^ And another one bites the dust! The two flights were operated with 737-200s
I think Nordair had been absorbed into CP Air by then, so it would be a CP flight
Spot on, W. ^ And another one bites the dust! The two flights were operated with 737-200s
Mar 3, 2019, 12:03 am
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
Continental Express, operated by Rocky Mountain Airways, Dash 7 Eagle County - Aspen - Las Vegas. Just a guess
Pretty wild and crazy guess there, T - I'm not sure RMA ever even operated outside of Colorado . Nope - the airline we're looking for operated a jet on this route - albeit one in a single class configuration
It's not America West via PHX
Continental Express, operated by Rocky Mountain Airways, Dash 7 Eagle County - Aspen - Las Vegas. Just a guess
Pretty wild and crazy guess there, T - I'm not sure RMA ever even operated outside of Colorado . Nope - the airline we're looking for operated a jet on this route - albeit one in a single class configuration
Mar 3, 2019, 12:11 am
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SEA (the REAL Washington); occasionally in the other Washington (DCA area)
Programs: DL PM 1.57MM; AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 21,375
Perhaps we've discussed this before, but I have to compete with you jlemon, because it's the 60th anniversary of my first commercial flight aboard a Lockheed L1049 Super Constellation operated by Trans-Canada Airlines from Edmonton (YEG) to Toronto (YYZ) for a job interview in 1958. ...
I thought it was actually this week, but I can’t presently lay my hands on the little certificate, signed by the captain, that my mom received from the flight attendant (who of course was then called a stewardess)
my log entry is
“ — Mar 54 TW 86 ABQ-MDW CST” (where CST = Lockheed L-749A Constellation)
Mar 3, 2019, 12:24 am
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
Perhaps we've discussed this before, but I have to compete with you jlemon, because it's the 60th anniversary of my first commercial flight aboard a Lockheed L1049 Super Constellation operated by Trans-Canada Airlines from Edmonton (YEG) to Toronto (YYZ) for a job interview in 1958. And now we've probably started a contest -- no youngsters allowed.
There is some debate with one of my sisters who's confident we flew aboard a Caravelle from Santa Barbara to Los Angeles just prior to the flight mentioned above. I have memories of climbing up the back stairs (how cool was that at the time for a young flyer like me!) and of those triangular windows but of course we all know that the westernmost city with scheduled CVL flights was Omaha. Or was it Lincoln? In any event, it's been surmised that United performed maintenance checks on its Caravelles at SFO and that one could very well have been substituted for a DC-6 on the SBA-LAX route. More likely however is that I flew one during one of our forays back east to visit kinfolk
Last edited by Seat 2A; Mar 3, 2019 at 7:14 am
Mar 3, 2019, 4:53 am
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: London, England.
Programs: BA
Posts: 8,476
Mine was Cambrian Airways Viscount 700 G-AMOO (a onetime BEA aircraft from the early 1950s), Liverpool to Isle of Man, two airports almost within sight of one another but with a 4-engined aircraft, in August 1966. So 53 years ago. Flight CS513, departing at 0815. By chance, the exact timetable for that date is here
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...4/cs664-08.jpg
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttima...4/cs664-08.jpg
Mar 3, 2019, 7:10 am
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
And then there were just three..
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
22. What fun! You’ve just received a call from jlemon to join him and three friends on a sailing trip from Aruba to St. Thomas, Virgin Islands. From your home in Wilmington, Delaware you could fly out of either New York or Washington, DC as both airports are essentially equidistant from your home and accessible by train. You settle for a well timed departure out of JFK aboard a new airline that offers affordable 1 stop flights each Saturday and Sunday to Aruba. Breakfast and lunch will be served enroute. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop please.
23. Is this your lucky trip or what? A quick review of the schedules between St. Thomas and Washington Dulles has revealed a convenient afternoon 1-stop direct flight that ticks all the boxes: It’s more affordable than the traditional airlines flying the route, it offers First Class service and a dinner is served enroute. What airline and aircraft will you be flying upon and where will you stop along the way?
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
22. What fun! You’ve just received a call from jlemon to join him and three friends on a sailing trip from Aruba to St. Thomas, Virgin Islands. From your home in Wilmington, Delaware you could fly out of either New York or Washington, DC as both airports are essentially equidistant from your home and accessible by train. You settle for a well timed departure out of JFK aboard a new airline that offers affordable 1 stop flights each Saturday and Sunday to Aruba. Breakfast and lunch will be served enroute. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop please.
23. Is this your lucky trip or what? A quick review of the schedules between St. Thomas and Washington Dulles has revealed a convenient afternoon 1-stop direct flight that ticks all the boxes: It’s more affordable than the traditional airlines flying the route, it offers First Class service and a dinner is served enroute. What airline and aircraft will you be flying upon and where will you stop along the way?
Mar 3, 2019, 8:08 am
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Ester, Alaska
Programs: Alaska Million Miler, United Million Miler, Wyndham Rewards Diamond, Choice Hotels Diamond
Posts: 12,148
Pretty cool on those first flights. Here's the tally so far
jrl767: March 1954 Albuquerque to Chicago ~ TWA Constellation
miniliq: XXXX 1958 Edmonton to Toronto ~ Trans Canada Constellation
Seat 2A: August 1962 Los Angeles to Denver ~ Continental 707/720
jlemon: XXXX 1963 Los Angeles to San Francisco ~ PSA Electra
WHBM: August 1966 Liverpool to Isle of Man ~ Cambrian Airways Viscount
Any other old timers care to add to the tally?
I see that everyone listed except for me got their first flight aboard a propeller driven aircraft. My first prop flight wasn't until the next year aboard an American DC-6 between New York JFK and Providence in August of 1963.
How many of us were dressed in our best travel clothes for those flights? For males - regardless of age - coats and ties seemed de rigueur with the possible exception of those casual PSA commuter flights between LAX & SFO...
jrl767: March 1954 Albuquerque to Chicago ~ TWA Constellation
miniliq: XXXX 1958 Edmonton to Toronto ~ Trans Canada Constellation
Seat 2A: August 1962 Los Angeles to Denver ~ Continental 707/720
jlemon: XXXX 1963 Los Angeles to San Francisco ~ PSA Electra
WHBM: August 1966 Liverpool to Isle of Man ~ Cambrian Airways Viscount
Any other old timers care to add to the tally?
I see that everyone listed except for me got their first flight aboard a propeller driven aircraft. My first prop flight wasn't until the next year aboard an American DC-6 between New York JFK and Providence in August of 1963.
How many of us were dressed in our best travel clothes for those flights? For males - regardless of age - coats and ties seemed de rigueur with the possible exception of those casual PSA commuter flights between LAX & SFO...
Last edited by Seat 2A; Mar 3, 2019 at 8:30 am
Mar 3, 2019, 10:00 am
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: PDX
Programs: AS DL
Posts: 9,038
And then there were just three..
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
The following quiz items have a time line of the spring of 1987....
21. It’s a great life working as a bartender for the rich and famous in Vail, Colorado. Now that the season is over, it’s time to relocate to Las Vegas and your summer job bartending at the MGM Grand. Thankfully the transition is made easier this year with the addition of a new once weekly 1-stop direct flight between Vail’s Eagle County Regional Airport and Las Vegas. Identify the airline, aircraft and enroute stop if you please.
It's not America West via PHX
PSA EGE-SLC-LAS BAe 146