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Old Mar 1, 2020, 2:38 pm
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71. (MISC)What was the first airline in Latin America to operate the 747?

AVIANCA

Correct! AVIANCA took delivery of its first 747 - an ex-Continental bird registered HK-2000 - in January of 1976. Aerolineas Argentinas picked up their first in December of that year.

81 . (MISC) Identify the four different airlines that were the launch customers for Boeing’s 737-200, -300, -400 and -500

Piedmont

Correct!
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78. (1965)
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This question is based upon schedules posted in a 1965 North American OAG. Outside of New York’s JFK, identify the only airport in the U.S. that was being served by two foreign built jetliners. Identify the airliners and the airline that operated them as well.
UA Caravelle identified. We need one more.


I would go for a BOAC VC-10, operating from Chicago to Montreal on it's way back to the UK.

I have seen this flight on the ORD-YUL schedules, but - for whatever reason - it doesn't appear in the February 1965 OAG I referenced for this question. A quick check of the itineraries section did not show any BA flights into ORD. Is it possible that by then BA was operating the ORD flights nonstop?

Also, it appears that my February 1965 OAG is just a bit too early to show Braniff BAC-111 operations...
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I have seen this flight on the ORD-YUL schedules, but - for whatever reason - it doesn't appear in the February 1965 OAG I referenced for this question. A quick check of the itineraries section did not show any BA flights into ORD. Is it possible that by then BA was operating the ORD flights nonstop?

Also, it appears that my February 1965 OAG is just a bit too early to show Braniff BAC-111 operations...
In both 1964 and 1966 BOAC were operating daily London-Montreal-Chicago, the former still with a 707, the latter with a VC-10. I think it was a while longer before they even partially did nonstops. Nor is there any indication of a restriction on passengers on this leg. However, if it's not there it's not there.

What about Mexicana, operating Comets from Mexico City to Chicago ?
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75. (1975) Not including flights to Hawaii, this is the longest nonstop flight in the North American OAG. Identify the airline, route and aircraft please…
Pan Am has been correctly identified. Still looking for routing and aircraft type...
75. I'll guess Pan Am operating a Boeing 707 nonstop between New York and Fairbanks with the complete routing being New York - Fairbanks - Tokyo.
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In both 1964 and 1966 BOAC were operating daily London-Montreal-Chicago, the former still with a 707, the latter with a VC-10. I think it was a while longer before they even partially did nonstops. Nor is there any indication of a restriction on passengers on this leg. However, if it's not there it's not there.

I double checked the Montreal to Chicago listings on the off-chance that BA night be operating via YUL westbound only, but alas, nothing. Additionally, I looked for a STOP PRESS addendum, but again, nothing. While I've often seen foreign carrier's flights within North America appended with the NO LOCAL TRAFFIC restriction, that was not the case here. I suspect the flights were always there but for whatever reason weren't listed in this particular OAG

What about Mexicana, operating Comets from Mexico City to Chicago ?

That's the one However, jrl767 just beat you to it
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75. (1975) Not including flights to Hawaii, this is the longest nonstop flight in the North American OAG. Identify the airline, route and aircraft please…
Pan Am has been correctly identified. Still looking for routing and aircraft type...

I'll guess Pan Am operating a Boeing 707 nonstop between New York and Fairbanks with the complete routing being New York - Fairbanks - Tokyo.

That's the ticket, JL! Here's the westbound schedule. Alas, the NA OAG shows nothing beyond Fairbanks... BTW, the nonstop distance JFK-FAI was 3277 Miles

Pan American PA 801 New York (JFK) 1015a-1240p L-S Fairbanks (FAI) Boeing 707
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Please feel free to answer from any and all and as always please limit your response to no more than two questions per day so that all may participate. And of course, we are looking for complete answers here. Thanks!


40 . (1959) From San Diego you’ll continue on to Dallas, Texas. There’s a well-timed departure out of Lindbergh every Friday evening offering something called Royal Cavalier Service. Hmm. Sounds nice. Let’s book it. Identify the airline and aircraft you’ll be flying upon.

62 . (1959) You’re flying on a domestic propeller driven flight to Miami, Florida. The service could not be finer and you can even have a drink in a galley/bar equipped lounge after lunch. Most airliners just have a few seats around a table in the back of the plane. Given the parameters, only one flight fits the bill. Identify the airline and which city you’re flying into Miami from.

67. (2001) It used to be that the Pittsburgh to Philadelphia market was dominated by Allegheny and TWA. In 2001 only two airlines served this route. Allegheny has long since morphed into US Airways and it is still a major presence on the route with 14 mostly daily flights. TWA no longer flies PIT-PHL. In its place is another airline that offers four daily flights. Identify that airline.

68 . (1959) Three airlines operate nonstop service between New York City and Mexico City. Each airline operates a different aircraft type on this route. One airline advertises that it offers the fastest service on this route. Identify each airline, the aircraft type each operates and which airline operates the fastest flight.

69. (1995) From your home in Reston, Virginia, the closest airport is Washington’s Dulles. You’re looking forward to visiting your brother down in Hollywood, Florida next month and are surprised to find that only one airline offers nonstop service from IAD to FLL, albeit with just a single daily flight. Right. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft operating this flight.
A N S W E R E D

70. (1965) For a small town,Amarillo, Texas is a hotbed of propliner activity. Four airlines serve AMA with propeller driven equipment. Three of them operate just one type into AMA while the fourth operates four different types. Identify each airline and the equipment each operates into Amarillo.
Central, Continental and Braniff have been identified. We need one more airline and additional equipment on BN (340, DC7 & LEC correctly ID'd so far)

72. (1965) You need to fly from Boston to San Diego and you need to do it as inexpensively as possible. To that end, you’ve booked yourself a flight aboard an all economy-class configured aircraft that leaves Boston late at night and makes three enroute stops before arriving in San Diego early in the morning. Identify the airline, aircraft type and the three enroute stops.

73. (2001) Three airlines offer nonstop service between Cancun and Los Angeles, but only one does so with wide bodied equipment. Yep, that’s the one you want. Identify the airline and the equipment.
A N S W E R E D

74. (1975) It’s been years since you last flew out of the state of Vermont. In fact, the last time you left the state was aboard a bright yellow Northeast Airlines jet on a trip to Cleveland for Thanksgiving with Uncle Bernie and Aunt Elizabeth. This time you’re headed out to an electronics trade show in St. Louis. Rather surprisingly, you’ve found a direct flight that departs Burlington each morning and, after three enroute stops, will get you into St. Louis in the early afternoon. Name the airline, the three enroute stops in order and the aircraft type.
A N S W E R E D

76 . (1959) You’re upcoming flight next week between San Diego and San Antonio is marketed as the “Silver Arrow” It’s actually an interchange flight with a change of airlines at the single enroute stop. Identify the two airlines involved the single enroute stop and the aircraft type.

77. (1995) You’ve had a great winter operating fishing charters off of San Jose del Cabo, Mexico. Now however, it’s time to return home to Chicago, just in time for opening day at Wrigley Field for your Chicago Cubs. You’ve found a connection involving two nonstop flights, each operated by different airlines utilizing MD80s. Surprisingly, the connecting city is not in California. Identify the two airlines involved and the connecting city.

79 . (1959) Although thisairline operated multiple nonstop flights between Atlanta and New York, one single daily flight was marketed as a V.I.P. flight. The flight featured filet mignon steak, Champagne, flowers for the ladies and even Dictaphone recorders on request. Name the airline and the aircraft type utilized on this flight.

80. (MISC) What was the first Asian airline to become an intercontinental carrier?
It wasn't JAL

82. (1975) Over the years you’ve had a love / hate relationship with Northwest Airlines. At present you’re not feeling overly charitable toward Mr. Nyrop’s airline, so when business requires you to fly between Miami and Minneapolis next week, you book a seat aboard the only direct flight not operated by NW. Unfortunately that flight makes three enroute stops. On a positive note however, dinner and a snack will be served along the way. Identify the airline, the aircraft and the three enroute stops.

83. (2001) Once upon a time there used to be a nonstop flight from Kahului, Maui to Chicago. Not anymore. These days the longest flight from Kahului to the mainland is a bit shorter. Identify the route, the airline that flies it and the aircraft type used.

86. (1965) You’re off to Montreal next week to watch your son play his first game since being drafted by the Montreal Canadiens last year. From your home airport of Chicago O’Hare, you find there are two airlines offering nonstop flights to Montreal. Identify each airline and the aircraft it operates on the ORD-YUL route.
BOAC is not one of them. Air France with the 707 has been correctly identified

89. (1965) Maybe it’s just your bad luck but you’ve had continually bad experiences with Trans-Canada and now Air Canada. For your upcoming trip from Montreal to Nassau, you decide to check out the other airline that offers nonstop service on this route. Identify that airline and the aircraft it operates on this route.
A N S W E R E D

90. (MISC) This airline caused quite a controversy when it became the first in the world to charge passenger ticket prices based upon the weight of the passenger
A N S W E R E D

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Airline logos and birds

Name the airline given the clue, as well as bird name where appropriate. Answers are not all inclusive as I am sure there are defunct airlines I don't remember (or never even saw one of the a/c, e.g., many U.S. airlines).

1. has long used a scavenger (name the specific bird too) - note another airline uses the name of the bird but not always the logo, and another airlines has started using this bird in its logo. Name these two other airlines.

2 name of the stylized raptor was part of the airline's name

3. eagle. At least one predecessor airline used an unnamed(?) bird. Name that predecessor. Note: Bird did not feature in any names (other than for a commuter brand - name that commuter brand too)

5. a real bird European explorers first thought could not possibly be real so there were in p....... (name the type of bird too)

7. stork

14. At least one airline of this country uses a mythological bird. Give the western and anglicized name of the bird too.

15. Two airlines use mythological birds. Name the birds and respective airlines (both bird names end with "a")

Other (winged) non-bird animals

18. Tiger (name two if not three airlines - all have a common lineage)
(partially answered - this one is for real old timers)

20. These two airlines (of the same country) featured a man with a raptor head dress
Partially answered (AeroMexico)


Bonus Questions

2. re: Question 18 above. One airline that is descended from two of the airlines and is parent to the other. It does not use a tiger but has a stylized and unnamed(?) bird. Name this airline

3. This airline and its descendant used a stylized bird logo. The name of the logo was also at least one of the two airline's ATC call-sign and is used by the airlines' current incarnation. Name the two airlines and the logo's name

3A. Another airline merged with/into one of the airlines in question 3 used a winged lion as its logo. Name the airline

78B. What airline was serving New York with the Comet in 1965? Where did it fly into New York from?

85B.
Which airline previously used the Connoisseur name to brand its business class and how did UA obtain the brand name?
A N S W E R E D

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Bonus Question 3A: Another airline merged with/into one of the airlines in question 3 used a winged lion as its logo. Name the airline

Sorry, my meager knowledge doesn't include anything about a merger, but when I think of "lions", Ethiopian and Lion Air spring to mind. ET's logo doesn't include a lion however, though Lion Air's might, depending upon your perspective.




From my mildly inebriated perspective, I think that thing wrapped below and behind the lion's head looks more like a nautilus, not a good symbol for Lion Air given its recent experience with the 737MAX in the seas off of Jakarta. It must be a wing of some sort, n'est ce pas?

P.S. Now that I think of it, British Caledonian's logo was of a stylized lion. I just looked it up and that lion's either got a frilly tail (a more likely scenario looking at the logo) or perhaps it's an oddly attached wing...

85B. Which airline previously used the Connoisseur name to brand its business class and how did UA obtain the brand name?

Air Canada used to offer Connoisseur Class, but so far as I remember, it was used to brand the airline's international First Class service. I have a couple of menus from the 1970s reflecting this... Then again, I may stand corrected on the old days - it may have been Connoisseur Service - but definitely there was a Connoisseur Class with Air Canada at some point. As to how UA obtained the name, I have no idea. Wild guess: It gave up a gate space or two at O'Hare or Dulles...

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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
70. (1965) For a small town,Amarillo, Texas is a hotbed of propliner activity. Four airlines serve AMA with propeller driven equipment. Three of them operate just one type into AMA while the fourth operates four different types. Identify each airline and the equipment each operates into Amarillo.
70 - I think the three single-type carriers are Central (DC-3, and a tap-in if not), Continental (Viscount), and TWA (Constellation) ... the fourth airline was Braniff (Convair 340, DC-6, DC-7, and Electra)
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
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69. (1995) From your home in Reston, Virginia, the closest airport is Washington’s Dulles. You’re looking forward to visiting your brother down in Hollywood, Florida next month and are surprised to find that only one airline offers nonstop service from IAD to FLL, albeit with just a single daily flight. Right. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and aircraft operating this flight.
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73. (2001) Three airlines offer nonstop service between Cancun and Los Angeles, but only one does so with wide bodied equipment. Yep, that’s the one you want. Identify the airline and the equipment....
69. Possibly Valujet with a DC-9-30?

73. Alaska Airlines was one of the three, but with 737-700/900s, so not the answer you're looking for. I'm guessing the widebody would be a vacation airline - perhaps an ATA L-1011?
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89. (1965) Maybe it’s just your bad luck but you’ve had continually bad experiences with Trans-Canada and now Air Canada. For your upcoming trip from Montreal to Nassau, you decide to check out the other airline that offers nonstop service on this route. Identify that airline and the aircraft it operates on this route.
I'm going to have another shot here at BOAC, with (probably) a 707 operating London-Montreal-Nassau-other West Indies points.
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Bonus Question 3A: Another airline merged with/into one of the airlines in question 3 used a winged lion as its logo. Name the airline

Sorry, my meager knowledge doesn't include anything about a merger, but when I think of "lions", Ethiopian and Lion Air spring to mind. ET's logo doesn't include a lion however, though Lion Air's might, depending upon your perspective.




From my mildly inebriated perspective, I think that thing wrapped below and behind the lion's head looks more like a nautilus, not a good symbol for Lion Air given its recent experience with the 737MAX in the seas off of Jakarta. It must be a wing of some sort, n'est ce pas?

P.S. Now that I think of it, British Caledonian's logo was of a stylized lion. I just looked it up and that lion's either got a frilly tail (a more likely scenario looking at the logo) or perhaps it's an oddly attached wing...
I forgot the BCal Lion, and the Lion Air lion. as answers. However, the answer(s) I am looking for go back decades, and is associated with an answer to another question that has been offered multiple times in the past 20 or so posts.

85B. Which airline previously used the Connoisseur name to brand its business class and how did UA obtain the brand name?

Air Canada used to offer Connoisseur Class, but so far as I remember, it was used to brand the airline's international First Class service. I have a couple of menus from the 1970s reflecting this... Then again, I may stand corrected on the old days - it may have been Connoisseur Service - but definitely there was a Connoisseur Class with Air Canada at some point. As to how UA obtained the name, I have no idea. Wild guess: It gave up a gate space or two at O'Hare or Dulles...
It was indeed. AC used Connoisseur class for it's BC service in the '80s. How UA got Connoisseur from AC was a more basic transaction. I believe AC dropped F and started to use Executive First and Executive for int'l and domestic BC product so Connoisseur was dropped.
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80. (MISC) What was the first Asian airline to become an intercontinental carrier?
Japan Airlines
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90. (MISC) This airline caused quite a controversy when it became the first in the world to charge passenger ticket prices based upon the weight of the passenger
I seem to remember that this was an airline from Samoa. Given that I can't name any other airlines from that country, I'll go with Samoa Airlines.
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73. (2001) Three airlines offer nonstop service between Cancun and Los Angeles, but only one does so with wide bodied equipment. Yep, that’s the one you want. Identify the airline and the equipment.

74. (1975) It’s been years since you last flew out of the state of Vermont. In fact, the last time you left the state was aboard a bright yellow Northeast Airlines jet on a trip to Cleveland for Thanksgiving with Uncle Bernie and Aunt Elizabeth. This time you’re headed out to an electronics trade show in St. Louis. Rather surprisingly, you’ve found a direct flight that departs Burlington each morning and, after three enroute stops, will get you into St. Louis in the early afternoon. Name the airline, the three enroute stops in order and the aircraft type.
73. I initially thought of Aerocancun with an A310; however, if memory serves me correctly, I do not think Aerocancun operated scheduled service, only charters (and BTW, Aerocancun did operate charter flights out of New Orleans back in the day with MD-80 equipment). So I'm now leaning toward Mexicana. The DC-10 may have been a bit too large for the LAX - CUN route, so let's go with a B767-300 instead.

74. This sure sounds like an extension of a former Northeast route. Of course, I'm talking about Delta here operating the same type of aircraft on the service as NE: The DC9-30. And the routing would then have been Burlington - Cleveland - Detroit - Chicago O'Hare - St. Louis. Plus, knowing DL back then, I'm also willing to bet this flight was just one part of an extensive milk run.
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