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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by pinworm
Still, why if you wanted to stand did you think the only place to stand was in the line? Couldn't you stand anywhere? I think maybe you were being a bit anal yourself
Standing in line T-10 isn't exactly gate lice material It's not my fault no one else was in line.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by pinworm
To be clear, I am pointing out that there are indicators of a pot-kettle dynamic here. I just don't buy that "he felt like standing" was the reason he stood in the line. It smells of rationalization. You can stand anywhere if you feel like standing. I think he was as eager to be first as the other guy was. And probably for the same reasons.
Of course I felt like standing. Like I stated in my OP, if I was seated in row 1 my rationale would definitely be as far up in the line as possible for OSB reasons.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 7:43 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Originally Posted by pinworm
Still, why if you wanted to stand did you think the only place to stand was in the line? Couldn't you stand anywhere? I think maybe you were being a bit anal yourself
Standing in line T-10 isn't exactly gate lice material It's not my fault no one else was in line.
Yes, it is. Liningup before you are called to board is gate lice. Whether it is 60 minutes or 6 minutes is less relevant than the fact that you were in line before boarding started.

Doesn't excuse the other guy from behaving like an arsehole, but recognizing glass house behavior is often a worthwhile exercise.

FWIW, I usually stand at the adjacent gate (assuming nothing boarding there) so I can still hear the announcements but also not be in the way.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 12:27 am
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Yes, it is. Liningup before you are called to board is gate lice. Whether it is 60 minutes or 6 minutes is less relevant than the fact that you were in line before boarding started.

Doesn't excuse the other guy from behaving like an arsehole, but recognizing glass house behavior is often a worthwhile exercise.

FWIW, I usually stand at the adjacent gate (assuming nothing boarding there) so I can still hear the announcements but also not be in the way.
I noticed quite a few people standing in line before they are called..

I always thought that they were anxious to get on the plane or afraid of missing the flight..
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 3:34 am
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But he was doing nothing wrong by standing where he was, so it's entirely irrelevant to try and read into his post about why he was standing there. Even if you're right, it changes nothing.
No, he was doing nothing wrong by being gate lice himself. The wrong he was doing is right here on FT for laying into someone else for doing it.
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by pinworm
No, he was doing nothing wrong by being gate lice himself. The wrong he was doing is right here on FT for laying into someone else for doing it.
Can you show me where he laid into the guy for being in line? I suspect you'll have a difficult time. :-)
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 5:42 am
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Flying CO 1635 last night into phx. I walked up to the top of the elite access line 10 minutes before boarding, not b/c I had a bulkead seat (I was in 4A) but b/c I knew I would be sitting for the next 4.5 hours so I wanted to stand as much as possible. Man with tennis shoes, t shirt, and jean shorts (I think I had jean shorts back in '85 and then it was only b/c I used them to wash my civic) comes up behind me and says "I usually am the first one in line". I look at him sheeplishly and just smile. He then says "What seat are you in". I told him and then he says "oh great I'm in 4B and you'll probably take all the overhead storage space". I was waiting for some facial expression from him indicating he was joking. There was none.

I load my 20" rollerboard into the bin, so obviously he had no problem with his 22" and briefcase. He immediately took off his beat up new balance shoes and the area reaked.

Not once during the entire flight did he ever say "please" or "thank you" to the (very nice and professional) flight attendant. That really irks me. I was brought up knowing to say "pardon", "please", and "thank you" religiously. How can people be so rude these days? He huffed and puffed when 45 mins before touchdown I asked to please get up so I could go to the bathroom (only time during the flight).

I can't be the only one out there that gets so peeved over idiots with no manners am I?
I think the bad manners is your judgement of other peoples clothes, judging his comments or lack of to FA (will get back to this momentarily) and you knowing the exact size of his rollaboards, do you measure it?

while I agree the comments in the line were whacko, I probably would have had a zinger back.

What do you care whether his shoes were beat up or not, whether he was stylish enough for you etc? This is just not applicable to the post other than for you to make your elitest comments.

Regarding the comments on thank you etc. While its probably nice if someone does this, you have no idea what kind of day this guy had, maybe a personal tragedy who knows. If he wasn't rude to the FA by saying rude things (as opposed to just not saying anything at all.. so be it. What gets me is that you taking the effort or having nothing better to do than listen to what this guy says or doesn't say. So far other than the initial comment by the guy in line, you seem to be out of line more than him.

I once was on a transcon in J on a 763. At the end of the flight as we were waiting for the ding to get out of our seats at the gate, the lady next to me who other than the initial hello when she sat down at boarding, I said zero words too in flight. I think I slept some, worked on the computer and read my newspaper and magazines. I had no desire to talk to her nor did I think she cared If I spoke to her either. We had avg service, nothing to write home about but otoh, no complaints either. It was uneventful.

So as I grab my back pack she says to me something to the effect (it was a few years ago) "you could at least be civil" and I said pardon me.. she says, you didn't say thank you or anything to the FA's or to me. I said, well I had nothing to say to you and other than this last comment Im about to make, i will have nothing to say to you again either. I then told her its none of your business what I say or don't say to the FA as long as I don't cause a disturbance. So you need to get a life and stop worrying about what everyone else does. That was the end, I got up and left.

for the record, when the FA served me, I give my usual thanks either with a smile and a nod of approval, or I use a low voice with a simple "thanks". If I am in the middle of something and its just a refil, I may just say thanks without looking up. However, I find these pax with nothing better to do, pretty rude themselves. Not to mention being an idiot themself.

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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 2:37 pm
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Old Aug 14, 2011 | 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by kilton
Can you show me where he laid into the guy for being in line? I suspect you'll have a difficult time. :-)
Somewhat moot to lay into a guy for standing in a fictitious line that isn't being served..

So long as the guy doesn't interfere those getting called to board, I don't see why the fuss of people forming lines to board..
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by kilton
Can you show me where he laid into the guy for being in line? I suspect you'll have a difficult time. :-)
I think calling a post "common courtesy" and then describing the lack thereof of a person is itself laying into him.

That said, if you want specific examples:

"How can people be so rude these days?" .

and

"I can't be the only one out there that gets so peeved over idiots with no manners am I? "

When you finish with that, you are laying into him for everything on the laundry list..the line, the feet and his accurately measured (somehow) briefcase.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by pinworm
I think calling a post "common courtesy" and then describing the lack thereof of a person is itself laying into him.
None of which was in reference to the fact that the person was standing in line.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by kilton
None of which was in reference to the fact that the person was standing in line.
^ This. I can't believe people actually think calling OP 'gate lice' is remotely relevant in this thread, especially when there was a suggestion of 'glass houses'.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 7:43 am
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He sounds very rude. Do his clothes really matter though? These days people wear anything on a plane. I also say please and thankyou religiously.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by kilton
None of which was in reference to the fact that the person was standing in line.
ALL of which is. They guy came up behind him in line and bemoaned the fact that he was not first. The OP ends up calling him a rude idiot, in refrence to everything he did listed in the post.
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Old Aug 15, 2011 | 8:27 am
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Wow. Some people can't take some humor on here. I was trying to make light of his jean shorts by commenting on them via a story. Guess that fell flat. He had a 22" kirkland rollerboard and I know as I have the same one collecting dust at home.

So I apologize about all my personal comments regarding mr smelly feet. Not sure where people have to make this into a sense of entitlement thread. I only posted to say there was a guy who asked me weird questions in the elite lane, stunk up the area with his smelly feet, and refused to say please or thank you. End of thread. Jeez!
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