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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 10:02 pm
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But good luck putting "must speak English without a thick accent" on a job requirement.
Speaking accented English is not a protected characteristic. It's good business practice to hire people who can communicate effectively with your customers.
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Not enough flights leave and arrive on time
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Originally Posted by CMH1k
I'm starting a list of things that airlines do poorly, in no particular order.

Not the big stuff (these forums are full of seriously big stuff like bad customer service, baffling rules, etc.) but the simple things that can really add up if you travel a lot and point out that no one is sweating the details in this industry. Please pile on.

Fuzzy video and audio that hisses- airlines have been behind the curve on this stuff for years (think about those tubular cord headphones and bulky video monitors). The whole world has sharp HD video and clean sound- not on an airplane.

I quite like the seat back TVs - they seem clear enough, and I always use my own earphones anyway

No cup holders- a no brainer.

I've noticed quite a few flip down ones on the underside of the tray table, I prefer the tray tables that you can fold in half tho - they are quite useful

Bogus safety precautions- do we really need to hear or see the safety message on every flight? Does anyone think that replying with a verbal "yes" when sitting in an exit row will make a difference. Do upright seats when landing really prevent injuries in a crash? I know the FAA requires this non-sense but there's no research to back any of it up.

Yup, I want EVERYONE on the plane to know what to do in an emergency. There are so many different aircrafts, so many different life vest (flew one aircraft where they were in an overhead compartment - don't recall that one before, most are under seat / in armrest), different exit locations etc etc. I want everyone in the exit row able to understand English (or whatever language the FAs use) and confirm that they are able and willing - I have seen people say no, and move. I have seen FAs move people. I think it is very important. I think upright seats aid departure - maybe not the 1" in economy, but how about near full recline in business? And when it comes to bracing, you need to lean forward, hands and head on seat back, or grab your ankles type posture - you can't so that properly with a reclined seat in your face. Or a flat bed, that offers no ability to adopt a brace position? Moreover, making every sit up, tray tables up etc, means everyone is awake. If we have to evacuate, I don't want to have to wake the deep sleeper next to me to get out (or assuming they wake up on a rough landing, I don't want him to spend 20 seconds working out what the hell is going on).

Web site sessions that log you out after non-activity of just a few minutes- what could an intruder possibly steal? At least make it an option to stay logged on.

They could make flight reservations in your name, costing you money? They could cancel your flights, costing you money. They could change your password, change your contact info, change your nominated person for upgrades. You could be partway through a booking, having selected a flight with upgrade availability, leave it for a few hours, and assume it is still there (or seat availability, or a certain fare bracket etc). Makes sense to me

No radio contact between the pilot and company personnel on the ground- let the ground folks know that there are passengers on board with tight connections, etc. I know they have this ability but they don't use it.

I've had FAs come and tell me the gate number for my tight connection, and escort me off the plane first. I've had connections held for me. If they weren't communicating with the ground to get that info, they must be great psychics. My mother was met at the door of the aircraft a couple of months ago, and sped over in a car to her connecting flight. it certainly happens.

Underpowered greeting gate agents- holding a clipboard is not real customer service. How about calling a connecting gate for a late passenger that has a chance to make their flight? Especially if the delay is caused by the airline.

Again, they can and do do this for passengers. I've had gate agents call, and I have had little carts drive me over to gates.

Non-standardized on-board payments- some flights don't take cash. Some only take cash. Don't make it hard to take more of our money. And stop pushing the duty-free crap that is no cheaper than buying it at home.

I don't know what you make the 'standard'. If you are flying e.g. British Airways from NY, are you going to necessarily have pounds? Lots of people don't change money before they travel, and I don't think an airline like BA that flys to hundreds of places should have to have facilities for accepting all cash. It would be nice if all took credit cards, but not everyone has a credit card. I've not had an issue, as I generally check before I fly if I know I want to purchase something.

Gate agents that don't speak English well- especially when making PA announcements at the gate. This seems like a minimum job requirement.

Never missed a flight / missed boarding ebcause of an accent. I think the PA systems that come out as very very quiet gobbledygook are more of an issue

Hard to remember, random record locators/confirmation numbers- how about allowing me to find my reservations by name or password instead of the puzzles like HNZ06GX?

I can normally check in / find reservation by name / frequent flyer number / credit card used to book. If I had a common name, wasn't a frequent flyer, and booked through a travel agent, a unique identifyer seems a lot easier than trawling through 18 John Smiths booked on a flight (or worse, having John Smith #5 get my preferred seat...)

Ugly uniforms- the polyester fashion disasters that the poor flight attendants (and flight crew) have to wear are awful.

Varies airline to airline - I actually really like the Emirates uniform for example.

Unorganized boarding procedures- there has to be reams of research on what the most efficient process is. Or maybe not.

Board using front and rear aircraft doors based on seat number. Would be nice!

Uncomfortable seats- again, there has to be lots of ergonomic information available that would allow something better than the ...-numbing seats in place now. Memory foam? Especially those thin fake leather seats on the regional jets.

Memory foam is horrible - I cannot stand it, it is uncomfortable, gets hot and sweaty, ew! There are improvements they can make I am sure but please not memory foam!

Hard to press video touch screens- you have to pound some of these seat back models and it's annoying to the passenger in front. The virtual keyboards on $49 smart phones seem to work just fine.

Again, not had an issue recently with this

No foot rests- I'll bet the airlines pay $1000+ each for their seats. Why not include fold-out foot rests?

I can see fold outs being an issue, but the foot nets some airlines have seem to work ok.

No pens- everyone scrambles for a pen on international flights to fill out immigration forms. Not to mention crossword puzzles in their own in-flight magazines.

Most people have pens in their purse, jacket, bag etc. Being able to ask the flight attendent for one would be nice, especially for the non frequent fliers, but I wouldn't want one cluttering up a seat pocket etc.
No power outlets- enough said.

I find most tend to have them now, which is great.

No Wi-Fi- charge a few bucks and make a lot. Seems simple.

Even better, a corporate sponsored wifi, at no cost to the airline or the consumer.

Same old TV shows- "The Office" is a funny show but I don't want to watch it every time I fly.

But equally, the new stuff I am interested in, I already watched last week / last month. The older stuff I may have seen, but not for a while.

Next list- things airports do poorly...
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by Allan38103
Board from the back.

Board window seats before middles

Board middles before aisles

Only really works if you have single passengers - if you have couples, families etc, then it falls apart - you don't want one of them boarding (and inadvertently taking the other person's ID or baording pass with them) and causes issues.

Prioroty deplaning. Let the pax who has a close connection get off first. The passenger who has a four-hour wait can afford to stay a bit longer

Which is fine if you can identify those passengers - but if you are flying on a different airline, you can't, and their connection might be just as tight, or they might be transferring to another airport, or transferring to ground transportation, or have a critical meeting to get to - everyone has a reason for wanting to get somewhere, I think all you can do is ask those not in a hurry to wait (but then a not in a hurry aisle blocks a hurry window, and they have to kerfuffle around). Better to de-plane through 2 sets of doors, rear and fore.

Know what you are doing with IRROPs ahead of time. (99% of the pax want to rebook on the next flight. 1 passenger needs to rebook to Fargo via FLL and recover his luggage and has a special diet.) GA, don't spend the next 25 minutes on the 1% and make the 99 others wait.
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Regarding priority deplaning, FA's always make the announcement whenever there's a delay that has created a bunch of tight connections.

Everybody ignores it, every time.

I'm not sure what the airline can do about it.


Regarding better handling of IRROPs, I totally agree - the system should automatically rebook 99% of pax. The airline that does this the WORST is the one with a network that you would think would make it easiest: Southwest.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by KoKoBuddy
Yes. But good luck putting "must speak English without a thick accent" on a job requirement. The ACLU and Co. would be filing a lawsuit about 3 seconds after the requirement was posted. I don't blame the airlines for this, I blame our insane PC mentality for it. I've been on several flights where I couldn't understand most of what the FA was announcing because his/her accent was so thick.
There is nothing the slightest bit unethical or or illegal about stating and enforcing a job requirement for impeccable oral communication skills in any language or languages that a position requires.
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Originally Posted by DJGMaster1
There is nothing the slightest bit unethical or or illegal about stating and enforcing a job requirement for impeccable oral communication skills in any language or languages that a position requires.
+1..

Overthephone.. someone has a thick accent.. takes me twice or three times as long to understand.. and my time is precious..
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I can list quite a few

One of the things that irk me when checking in for international flights is that I am stuck behind this family who has chosen to have the entire kitchen sink and overweight bags. Here I am a single traveler with my trusty Rick Steve's Suitcase and carry-on bag. The airline should have a family checkin for both domestic and international flights. For those travelers with luggage that meets the requirements then have an express lane.

Another thing airlines do poorly is having understaffed counters for international flights. They know the amount of people flying long before the checkin counters open so why not open all counters assigned for the flight? Possibly instill a Time Slot method like at the DMV. On your Itinerary it will say Checkin between this time and this time or checkin via the internet and drop your bags at the WebDrop. This way customers can sit down and only come to the counter 10 minutes before their time slot. If a passenger has overweight bags they are required to call the airline 24 hours before to get an earlier timeslot to deal with any special cases.

Serve complimentary alcohol on US flag carriers. I wish this economy picks up and airlines will give a complimentary hot meal, hot towel and alcohol in Y Class. On international and domestic flights this would be cool. A friend flew United going to Europe and Lufthansa on the return. By far Lufthansa was the winner.

I booked a flight on Lufthansa with one flight on Brussels Airlines and we get hot meals and free booze. The funny thing is the cost of the flight was less than the US Carrier and the connection times were better avoiding JFK and any American Airport. My criteria is to clear customs at SFO as opposed to JFK. I get so stressed at JFK knowing I have one more flight to make on an already long trip. It costs more to connect via JFK so it seems.

On boarding the flights have the e-reader(Public Transit fare gate style boarding gates like they have at FRA.) You put in your boarding pass on the scanner and the gate opens when its your turn. If it detects your in the wrong group it won't let you in. If you have been upgraded or your seat assignment changed it will reprint the boarding pass and you can use that to open the gate to board the flight. A computer kiosk can be setup before the e-gates to do more complicated bookings/ change flights/ seats etc. With many languages there is less need for agents checking the boarding pass. On international flights the e-reader will say"Please Scan Passport" this will automatically add the Passport info to the reservation if it has not been done at checkin. Just sit around in the waiting lounge. In fact just have a sitting area before the e-reader gates and don't open the electric gate separating the concessions from the gate until 5-10 minutes before boarding. It would be less stressful for domestic and international flights. Since gates change all the time this e-reader can be used for any airline.

Have clear announcements if the gates change. Install easy to read monitors throughout the gate area including Flight Info Departure Screens at all gate areas. On the flight info screen list Meals being served, flight departures/arrival time/aircraft/ Boarding group who can use the e-reader etc. There can be multiple readers that are flexible to be used for different class of service. This would eliminate the gate agent at the gate. Instead have a Service Agent at the e-reader in case something goes wrong who can tour the gate area to answer questions with a PDA device as opposed to people lining up at a desk.

On arrival from an international flight have more ground staff meeting the flight. One desk should be for those with tight connections. Have the onward boarding pass ready to go at the gate. Instill a special Fastrak line at Customs/Passport Control for those with tight connections.

Install more automated kiosks where you can scan your itinerary or boarding pass to get a new boarding pass for delayed flights.

On the airplane have an area with one or two kiosk where you can print your boarding pass free of charge if you don't have a mobile device.

Airlines know it takes a long time to board and deboard a plane make use of 2 jetbridges where its supported even on domestic planes to separate first class from Y.
If an agent is having a bad day then counsel the agent before the agent goes AWOL on a passenger. If the a gent is stressed reassign him or her to another task for the day. Don't put grouchy agents at the ticket counter or gate areas. Its not fair to the passenger that they need to deal with a staffmember who is not fit to do their job.


Provide constant updates on a delayed flight. If the airline knows a flight arrived 1 hour prior to the departure of the flight especially an itnternational flight don't lie to the customers and say we will be boarding on time. It takes awhile to clean and cater the aircraft. When a flight is really delayed provide food vouchers not $2 but a decent voucher enough for a good meal. If its going to be uber late book hotel rooms.

Offer Cart Service to help passengers with or without disabilities to and from Customs/ Baggage claim boarding flight. Possibly have a special Customs lane whereby the Officer can walkup to the cart and scan the passports while the passengers are sitting on the cart. Customers board a Green Cart at the gate for nothing to declare and a Red Cart for declared items. The cart them continues to the baggage claim etc.

If the baggage claim is on the lower level those who need assistance can get a wheelchair to take them down after the cart parks at the elevators. For departures have a cart take passengers to security and a wheelchair through the process where another cart meets the passenger to take them to the gate.

Possibly have a special jetbridge where a cart can go down to the boarding door where an aisle chair is provided for disabled passengers and the rest can just walk on.

The list can go on but this is my 2 cents on how the airlines can improve.

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One more thing

The airlines should provide tags at checkin for carry on bags that says"Cabin Luggage" along with the row number. If the carry on is not tagged they cannot be allowed through security. If the passenger has more than the allotment they are SOL and have to check it in or consolidate it.

As for bins if on domestic flight allow 1 free checked bag and 1 carry-on 1 personal item such as camera, breifcase/ laptop etc. anything over 1 free bag needs to pay the 2nd bag.

Air France had this tag you had to attach the tag to all carry-on that said Cabin Luggage the attendant said if we don't place this on your bag security won't let you through. In fact at online checkin demand a count of carry-on bags in addition to checked bags. Then have a message saying the customer needs to pick up the tag and write their row number before security. Have a special area next to each airline's counter and at curbside with these tags.

Open Curbside checkin for International Flights. They can easily check the passport info and scan in the info. This will save time for those with special needs/ extra bags etc. There is no security issue having this for both domestic and international flights.

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[QUOTE=danielonn;16643607]

On boarding the flights have the e-reader(Public Transit fare gate style boarding gates like they have at FRA.) You put in your boarding pass on the scanner and the gate opens when its your turn. If it detects your in the wrong group it won't let you in. If you have been upgraded or your seat assignment changed it will reprint the boarding pass and you can use that to open the gate to board the flight. A computer kiosk can be setup before the e-gates to do more complicated bookings/ change flights/ seats etc. With many languages there is less need for agents checking the boarding pass. On international flights the e-reader will say"Please Scan Passport" this will automatically add the Passport info to the reservation if it has not been done at checkin. Just sit around in the waiting lounge. In fact just have a sitting area before the e-reader gates and don't open the electric gate separating the concessions from the gate until 5-10 minutes before boarding. It would be less stressful for domestic and international flights. Since gates change all the time this e-reader can be used for any airline.


But gate agents check that the person with the boarding pass matches the person's ID and that the ID matches the person. Machines are not there yet I don't think.

Have clear announcements if the gates change. Install easy to read monitors throughout the gate area including Flight Info Departure Screens at all gate areas. On the flight info screen list Meals being served, flight departures/arrival time/aircraft/ Boarding group who can use the e-reader etc. There can be multiple readers that are flexible to be used for different class of service. This would eliminate the gate agent at the gate. Instead have a Service Agent at the e-reader in case something goes wrong who can tour the gate area to answer questions with a PDA device as opposed to people lining up at a desk.

A desk is much easier to find than someone wandering around the gate area. If there are lots of people in uniform, how do you know which happens to be that gate's agent?


Provide constant updates on a delayed flight. If the airline knows a flight arrived 1 hour prior to the departure of the flight especially an itnternational flight don't lie to the customers and say we will be boarding on time. It takes awhile to clean and cater the aircraft. When a flight is really delayed provide food vouchers not $2 but a decent voucher enough for a good meal. If its going to be uber late book hotel rooms.

Trouble is, if they say a flight is an hour late and tell people they can disappear - you get people who think 1 hour delay = 1 hour later boarding, which often isn't the case. Far easier to keep people around so you can board the aircraft as soon as it is ready, which may be only 20 minutes late, and try to get it boarded inside of the 40 allocated minutes, for a near on time departure, rather than tell people it is delayed and have them wander off and take ages to round up again.

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Originally Posted by danielonn
The airlines should provide tags at checkin for carry on bags that says"Cabin Luggage" along with the row number. If the carry on is not tagged they cannot be allowed through security. If the passenger has more than the allotment they are SOL and have to check it in or consolidate it.

As for bins if on domestic flight allow 1 free checked bag and 1 carry-on 1 personal item such as camera, breifcase/ laptop etc. anything over 1 free bag needs to pay the 2nd bag.

Air France had this tag you had to attach the tag to all carry-on that said Cabin Luggage the attendant said if we don't place this on your bag security won't let you through. In fact at online checkin demand a count of carry-on bags in addition to checked bags. Then have a message saying the customer needs to pick up the tag and write their row number before security. Have a special area next to each airline's counter and at curbside with these tags.

Open Curbside checkin for International Flights. They can easily check the passport info and scan in the info. This will save time for those with special needs/ extra bags etc. There is no security issue having this for both domestic and international flights.
Please no! It is a pain in the butt those airlines that require those tags - and they really serve no purpose (as you can keep them on the bag for a subsequent flight etc) and half the time security don't care in any case, as it is not their job to police airline bag policy. If 2 airlines require it in an aiport, and others don't, then security really won't notice / care half the time. It is nice to check in online, walk straight through security and to your gate quickly, no need to find an airline counter etc.

Curbside check in, IME doesn't save anyone any time, it just cloggs up the pavement outside the doors - pain in the butt trying to get out in the right sort of place (as cars pile up around the curbside check ins en mass, get out of a cab, fall over stacked up 'curbside checked' bags waiting to be moved, negotiate round people forming lines etc. Just let people in through the doors, and do it there.
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Originally Posted by danielonn
Serve complimentary alcohol on US flag carriers. I wish this economy picks up and airlines will give a complimentary hot meal, hot towel and alcohol in Y Class. On international and domestic flights this would be cool. A friend flew United going to Europe and Lufthansa on the return. By far Lufthansa was the winner.
I agree with the sentiment, but the market has repeatedly spoken on this issue: it generally won't pay extra for free food and booze in coach. If Airline A costs $200 and includes food/drink and Airline B costs $190 with no inflight service at all, the market overwhelmingly books Airline B.

In a way, I wish it wasn't so...I wish "premium service" airlines could survive and find a way to offer their product at the right price. A U.S. domestic example - Midwest Express - sort of made it work for 15 years or so but I'm not sure they were ever that profitable. And I can't recall actually consciously paying $20-30 extra to fly them because of the food/bev. I either saw them forced to exactly match another carrier (in which I happily flew them, but wonder if they made money) or I saw them charging double or triple the fare, in which case I didn't. They never found a way (that I saw) to always slot themselves a few bucks above their competitor...presumably because they figured out that the market generally doesn't buy that way. Sadly, the premium service died in the early 00's and the whole airline ended up getting bought by Frontier a few years later.


On boarding the flights have the e-reader(Public Transit fare gate style boarding gates like they have at FRA.) You put in your boarding pass on the scanner and the gate opens when its your turn. If it detects your in the wrong group it won't let you in.
Another nice idea...but from the airlines' POV it sounds like a capital expenditure to solve a problem that really isn't there. The GA's can manually gain enough control of the herd of boarders that they can get the plane loaded and sent on its way. We FT'ers like to grump about gate lice but it's not really affecting the airline's bottom line. Even if there's a gate/route with abnormally high boarding problems that lead to slower aircraft turns, I think they'd probably just implement stronger manual solutions. (More aggressive GA's, better corrals for boarding groups, etc.)

On arrival from an international flight have more ground staff meeting the flight. One desk should be for those with tight connections. Have the onward boarding pass ready to go at the gate. Instill a special Fastrak line at Customs/Passport Control for those with tight connections.
Agreed: someone from the airline who can answer questions is a great idea. I've had problems in the past where the airline employees for Flight 1 don't really know the processes or procedures for the Flight 2 airline. Therefore, if it's a flight where many pax from Flight 1 are connecting to the same Flight 2 (or Airline 2), having one of their people at the arrival gate would be helpful.

Usually not a problem in the big European hubs because U.S.-to-European carrier usually interlines the bags well and has clear directions of where to go upon arrival. I flew Austrian connecting to Egyptair once and the arrival process was disorganized and messy. Having an Egyptair agent to assist people would have been helpful...especially because many of the people on the flight were connecting, and ALL were connecting on Egyptair.

The airlines should provide tags at checkin for carry on bags that says"Cabin Luggage" along with the row number. If the carry on is not tagged they cannot be allowed through security. If the passenger has more than the allotment they are SOL and have to check it in or consolidate it.
In the U.S., it wouldn't work because the TSA wouldn't look at the tags - and frankly, with there nearly always being a nonzero wait to get through a checkpoint, I don't think I want them to.

Plus I'm not sure how it'd work with mobile boarding passes. Sounds like you'd need to flip through screens on your phone and wouldn't have anything to actually attach to your bag. Even with traditional paper BP's...I'd just have more pieces of paper in my hand, as I'm unlikely to have any way to tape something to my bag. (I think of the return segment of a trip...checking in at a hotel kiosk...)
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Originally Posted by danielonn
The airlines should provide tags at checkin for carry on bags that says"Cabin Luggage" along with the row number. If the carry on is not tagged they cannot be allowed through security. If the passenger has more than the allotment they are SOL and have to check it in or consolidate it.

As for bins if on domestic flight allow 1 free checked bag and 1 carry-on 1 personal item such as camera, breifcase/ laptop etc. anything over 1 free bag needs to pay the 2nd bag.

Air France had this tag you had to attach the tag to all carry-on that said Cabin Luggage the attendant said if we don't place this on your bag security won't let you through. In fact at online checkin demand a count of carry-on bags in addition to checked bags. Then have a message saying the customer needs to pick up the tag and write their row number before security. Have a special area next to each airline's counter and at curbside with these tags.

Open Curbside checkin for International Flights. They can easily check the passport info and scan in the info. This will save time for those with special needs/ extra bags etc. There is no security issue having this for both domestic and international flights.
Please no! From the perspective of a non-frequent traveler who is able to get to the airport early for those one or two special trips each year this would probably be a good change. From the perspective of those of us that are always cutting margin of time time razor thin, I think it would be a disaster.

While it would be nice to not have to deal with the kettles trying to avoid checked bag fees and slowing down the boarding/deplaning process with their huge volume of improper carryon bags, the consequences of such a system would outweigh that one benefit. Among those consequences:

1.) We'd all have to stop at the checkin desk for every flight. That would be a huge pain for me as I check in online or mobile for 99% of my flights.
2.) I wouldn't want an outside party - TSA, private security, etc. - making decisions about my potentially marginal bags. As it is today, an employee from the airline makes that decision at the gate. Since I'm boarding with first or elite groups and since I'm a loyal and valuable passenger, the employees of that airline are going to be less like to enforce the letter of the law on me. Private Security and/or TSA could care less how much money the airline makes off me.
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Not to mention some airlines have different allowances for their frequent fliers, for their first, business and coach passengers, etc. Let the airline do their job, let the security agents do theirs.
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Originally Posted by CMH1k
Wow, you guys need to lighten up.

Comments like these aren't really needed:

"If you can't go few hours with HD video you need help" (How about 16 hours to BKK, or back and forth to IAD and LHR every 2 weeks?)

"Most of what is mentioned is small and unimportant"-, (um, yes, that was clearly pointed out in my OP...)

"This statement, alone, indicates to me that I need not read the rest of your message" (and then she goes on to read the whole post and reply...)

And all of the defensive rationales for things that could maybe be fixed if someone took the time to bother completely miss the point and spirit of my post. The idea is "Wouldn't it be nice if airlines paid more attention to little stuff in an effort to please their valuable customers."

Regarding the safety stuff:

The pilot gets and communicates gate info and he doesn't crash the plane, so asking for connection communication isn't wholly unreasonable.

Seats that are 1" back are not a safety hazard, let the poor guy sleep.

The safety speech could be on card, not verbally blasted from a speaker 1 ft. from your ear.

...etc., etc.

welcome to FT. this is par for the course. you are not allowed to complain about anything.

everyone else tries to one up people by being a "better" traveler.

I thought your list was funny.

yeah, it is annoying to hear the general announcement. even people who don't fly regularly know how to put on a seat belt and a mask over their face.

and airlines have compromised space between seats so much that having a seat reclined 0.5 inches vs upright is so negligible.

most of us frequent flyer types have figured out little things to deal with these inconveniences, but it's the real DB's who have to seem like airlines really know what they are doing all the time.
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