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anabolism Jun 24, 2012 2:34 am


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 18387248)
While ExpertFlyer provides unique services such as Flight and Seat Alerts, there are other websites that provide fare alerts. If you believe there are problems with the existing fare alert services, please send us an email at [email protected] and let us know how you think they can be improved upon.

In my case, I'm often interested in a good price on an I class fare on AA or BA, e.g., there are occasionally quite good prices on these but other times they're very high. I haven't found any site that will let me set an alert for an I fare from xxx-yyy that's under what's now available. Tons of sites are happy to alert me when a cheaper Q fare becomes available, but that's not what I'm looking for. (Even better would be a way to search broadly, such as "any business class fare from LAX OR SAN OR SFO to LHR OR BRU OR MAD" but I'm not holding much hope of that.)


Originally Posted by hillrider (Post 18417978)
I have been looking for a site that would alert me when there's a new
  • fare
  • under a certain cost
  • on specific airlines (BA/IB/AA)
  • in business class
  • on a specific citypair
with no avail.

I found plenty of sites that who would alert me when every single new economy fare (including junk airlines or airlines I couldn't care about) or lower price comes up on a citypair (farecompare, bing travel, lots of others). I also found sites where I can put specific flights and it will alert me when the cost for those specific flights drops below a threshold. However, I am still to find a service that will alert me on what I need, which is pretty much similar to the one of bingocallerb22: in his case, he wants to be alerted whenever there's a cheaper
  • fare
  • in business class
  • on carrier LA
  • on citypair NYC-LIM or NYC-GYE.

Exactly!!!


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 18376632)
What you can search for is all of the date ranges in the future that a given fare will be valid by using the Show Fares for All Travel Dates option on the Fare Information search (under Advanced Options). Just leave the Depart Date set at today and run the search. Hopefully that will give you the information that you are looking for.

I use this a lot when searching for good I fares and my dates are flexible. It's very handy.


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 18698074)
The VAC passenger type has now been added to our Fare Information search. This is another ExpertFlyer exclusive feature.

Cool, I'll have to play with this.

JDiver Jul 2, 2012 2:59 pm

Recent inquiries / posts having to do with basic use of ExpertFlyer have been moved to their own thread: ExpertFlyer - assistance / help requests for newbies.

JDiver, Senior Moderator

roknroll Jul 7, 2012 11:12 am

Lately when searching flight availability for DL, I'm seeing tons of low fare inventory (E9, T9, U9, L9, ETC), but then a search on DL or Matrix gives back only higher inventory such as K, M, Q, etc. Is this an error or glitch, or can it be explained?

Using a specific example, I was checking availability on my SFO-MSP flight this Monday morning (DL1106), and it shows all classes with 9+ seats. When searching on Matrix or DL.com, it only shows M class.

cmn.jcs Jul 7, 2012 11:30 am


Originally Posted by roknroll (Post 18886471)
Lately when searching flight availability for DL, I'm seeing tons of low fare inventory (E9, T9, U9, L9, ETC), but then a search on DL or Matrix gives back only higher inventory such as K, M, Q, etc. Is this an error or glitch, or can it be explained?

Using a specific example, I was checking availability on my SFO-MSP flight this Monday morning (DL1106), and it shows all classes with 9+ seats. When searching on Matrix or DL.com, it only shows M class.

Did you check to see if a fare is published for the appropriate class using the Fare Info tool?

roknroll Jul 7, 2012 3:47 pm


Originally Posted by cmn.jcs (Post 18886558)
Did you check to see if a fare is published for the appropriate class using the Fare Info tool?

The only fare showing is M+ (when validating fares). Does this mean anything?

Could it be that those fares are available, but only with certain routing? For example a SFO-MSP-MCI might be bookable with T class fares, but not SFO-MSP?

cmn.jcs Jul 7, 2012 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by roknroll (Post 18887489)
The only fare showing is M+ (when validating fares). Does this mean anything?

Could it be that those fares are available, but only with certain routing? For example a SFO-MSP-MCI might be bookable with T class fares, but not SFO-MSP?

The reason you can't find the T (or other bottom-level) fares is because they aren't available now. Yes, there's inventory available, but those fares have some sort of restriction. An example of a restriction is advance purchase (the fare has to be purchased X days ahead of time).

anabolism Jul 8, 2012 1:09 pm

Any thoughts or info on these two related issues? (1) EF showing "Flight Cancelled," and (2) EF's "share" copying flight status as wide open when display shows it as cancelled?


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 18810338)
I've not seen this before, but just now a flight search showed "Flight Cancelled" where the booking class availability usually goes. Did I just get lucky and catch a query just when AA updated its schedule, or do flights stay in the system for some period of time after being cancelled, or something else?

More oddly, the screen display shows "Flight Cancelled" but the "Share -> BBCode" shows it as x7 in all buckets (even P, which the other flights don't show).

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:

Flight Availability Search
Departing SAN on 04/04/13 11:00 AM for CUR
Returning on 04/08/13 12:00 PM
Flying AA 
At least 1 connection


                                                                    Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart            Arrive            Aircraft  Reliability    Available Classes
2 Connections
AA 3028      0      SAN                LAX                ERD      Daily          S7 Y7 W7 B7 H7 M7 N7 K7 L7 Q7 V7 G7 O7
                    04/04/13 4:40 PM  04/04/13 5:25 PM            87% / 19m
AA 1178      0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          P7 F7 A7 S7 Y7 W7 B7 H7 M7 N7 K7 L7 Q7 V7 G7 O7
                    04/04/13 9:30 PM  04/05/13 5:25 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA 3102      0      SAN                LAX                ERD      Daily          Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G5 N4 S3 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 7:20 PM  04/04/13 8:05 PM            92% / 20m
AA 1804      0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G5 N4 S3 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 11:30 PM  04/05/13 7:20 AM            85% / 11m
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G5 N4 S3 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA 3064      0      SAN                LAX                ERD      Daily          Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N6 S5 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 8:20 PM  04/04/13 9:10 PM            90% / 17m
AA 258        0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N6 S5 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 10:35 PM  04/05/13 6:25 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N6 S5 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA 3714      0      SAN                LAX                CR7      Daily          P7 F7 A7 S7 Y7 W7 B7 H7 M7 N7 K7 L7 Q7 V7 G7 O7
                    04/04/13 6:00 PM  04/04/13 6:45 PM            100% / 0m
AA 1178      0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          P7 F7 A7 S7 Y7 W7 B7 H7 M7 N7 K7 L7 Q7 V7 G7 O7
                    04/04/13 9:30 PM  04/05/13 5:25 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q7 O7
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA (AS) 6843  0      SAN                SEA                737      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V0 G0 N0 S0 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 5:05 PM  04/04/13 7:54 PM            98% / 9m
AA 1088      0      SEA                MIA                757      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 9:25 PM  04/05/13 6:10 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA 3096      0      SAN                LAX                ERD      Daily          Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G4 N3 S2 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 9:20 PM  04/04/13 10:05 PM            98% / 14m
AA 1804      0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G4 N3 S2 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 11:30 PM  04/05/13 7:20 AM            85% / 11m
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G4 N3 S2 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA (AS) 6847  0      SAN                SEA                737      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 2:45 PM  04/04/13 5:38 PM            95% / 22m
AA 1088      0      SEA                MIA                757      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 9:25 PM  04/05/13 6:10 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

2 Connections
AA 3714      0      SAN                LAX                CR7      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 6:00 PM  04/04/13 6:45 PM            100% / 0m
AA 258        0      LAX                MIA                738      Daily          F7 A7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/04/13 10:35 PM  04/05/13 6:25 AM            NA / NA
AA 1879      0      MIA                CUR                738      Daily          J7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 N7 S7 Q0 O0
                    04/05/13 11:20 AM  04/05/13 2:10 PM            85% / 19m

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ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 8, 2012 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 18891838)
Any thoughts or info on these two related issues? (1) EF showing "Flight Cancelled," and (2) EF's "share" copying flight status as wide open when display shows it as cancelled?

The flight is canceled, the bug is in the Share Results function.

Please send all search issues and bug reports to [email protected] so we don't miss them, thanks.

anabolism Jul 8, 2012 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 18892014)
The flight is canceled, the bug is in the Share Results function.

Thanks. I'm curious why and for how long a cancelled flight shows up in search results?


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 18892014)
Please send all search issues and bug reports to [email protected] so we don't miss them, thanks.

Ok, thanks. This one you have now, though, right?

ExpertFlyer Voice Jul 8, 2012 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 18892150)
Thanks. I'm curious why and for how long a cancelled flight shows up in search results?

A flight will show as canceled if and for how long the airline marks it as such. The GDS usually still returns the flight in the availability search unless the airline removes it from the schedule for that day or the airline 0s out the classes, which AA didn't do here.

Ok, thanks. This one you have now, though, right?[/QUOTE]

Yes, thanks.

SanDiego1K Jul 18, 2012 2:37 pm

What is the code for Alaska Air coach award space? I was told in the Alaska forum that it was W. However, when I put that into an Expert Flyer search, it pulled up Choice award space, not Saver. I want to use Avios points and BA will only see award space at the Saver level.

Here is my query in the AS forum and the response to it.

trek87 Jul 18, 2012 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 18956916)
What is the code for Alaska Air coach award space? I was told in the Alaska forum that it was W. However, when I put that into an Expert Flyer search, it pulled up Choice award space, not Saver. I want to use Avios points and BA will only see award space at the Saver level.

Here is my query in the AS forum and the response to it.

W inventory is what you want to be looking for.

http://www.expertflyer.com/sessionlessClassList.do

SanDiego1K Jul 18, 2012 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by trek87 (Post 18957664)
W inventory is what you want to be looking for.

http://www.expertflyer.com/sessionlessClassList.do

However I searched on Expert Flyer for MRY-SAN on Oct 29 using code W. It showed availability - but it was Choice availability and not Saver. BA can only book Saver awards on AS.

SanDiego1K Jul 18, 2012 6:39 pm

This is embarrassing. Still, confession is good for the soul. I set up the alert for 1 seat but was searching for 2 seats. There IS one seat available. Thank you to the person who ever so gently pointed this out to me by PM.

aktchi Jul 22, 2012 9:15 am

How am I supposed to interpret a response when a particular bucket is missing altogether?

Example: Yesterday, I searched for Z, U, and C availability on an AA flight and it showed Z6 U2 C4. Today it shows Z6 C4, with no mention of U. A few other flights explicitly say U0 but in this case U is simply missing.

Should this be treated as "U0" or as "some bug, check later"?


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